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Belated Medal of Honor for 24 Soldiers Overlooked Due to Race
ABC News ^ | Friday, February 21, 2014 | Luis Martinez

Posted on 02/21/2014 4:56:27 PM PST by kristinn

Twenty-four Army soldiers who fought in World War II, Korea and Vietnam will receive the Medal of Honor next month, correcting oversights that prevented many of them from receiving the nation’s highest award for valor because of their Hispanic, Jewish and African-American backgrounds, White House officials said today.

The awarding of 24 Medals of Honor — most of them posthumously — will be the largest number to be awarded at one time since World War II.

The process began in 2002 when Congress mandated that the military services review the cases of hundreds of Hispanic and Jewish service members who fought during World War II, the Korean War and the Vietnam War and received the Distinguished Service Cross instead of the Medal of Honor for their heroism. The Distinguished Service Cross is the nation’s second-highest award for valor.

The 12-year review of cases ultimately identified 18 Army soldiers whose cases merited being upgraded to the Medal of Honor, officials said.

During the course of the review it was determined that six soldiers not of Hispanic or Jewish backgrounds should also have their Distinguished Service Crosses upgraded to the Medal of Honor.

The Medals of Honor will be awarded on March 18 in a White House ceremony that will be attended by the three living recipients — all Vietnam veterans — as well as the families of the 21 others who are receiving the award posthumously. Of the 24 recipients, seven served in World War II, eight in the Korean War and nine in the Vietnam War.

The majority of the new Medal of Honor recipients are of Hispanic descent, but the extensive review of cases began with an effort review the case of PFC Leonard Kravitz, a Jewish-American soldier who died in the Korean War.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: medalofhonor; moh; puertorico

1 posted on 02/21/2014 4:56:27 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

MOH affirmative action?

Gosh, next thing ya know they’ll be busting Asian and white kids for tiny infractions, the better to even out the stats, right...?

Oh, wait.


2 posted on 02/21/2014 5:03:06 PM PST by gaijin
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To: kristinn

This reeks of propaganda Ted to coincide with the divide and conquer tactics of the regime

And Hillary’s cultural crusade should be suspected in all things now, including in the FCC deal

Blacks and Hidpanics do very well in the military and tgey are welcome in every unit. This headline is embarrassing and unnecessary to them. Whom does it serve


3 posted on 02/21/2014 5:03:54 PM PST by stanne
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To: kristinn

God bless all of them, and many more.


4 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:07 PM PST by Bogie
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To: kristinn

It would be fair to review ALL DSC recipients, not just the special races, but that would result in too many white men receiving upgrades to the CMH.


5 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:33 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: kristinn
I dunno, Kris ... there may well have been prejudice against coloreds in WW2, but I don't remember any Jew hating or Spic hating at the time.

I think this is a ploy to soften the military pay/pension blow ... maybe just trying to appear military friendly

6 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:55 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: kristinn

Interesting. This fellow was a late recipient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibor_Rubin

He certainly was an awesome Jew. His story is kind of sad - his superior officer really did hate Jews and it was his buddies that finally went to the top.


7 posted on 02/21/2014 5:07:23 PM PST by golux
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To: kristinn

forget all the political grandstanding ; let TODAYS soldiers , sailors , airmen and Marines WIN the damn war against radical Islam . END the ROEs ! .....they don’t seek medals , they need VICTORY !


8 posted on 02/21/2014 5:08:44 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: golux

Sorry - not officer.

“...For this and other acts of bravery, Rubin was recommended four times for the Medal of Honor by two of his commanding officers. Both of these officers were killed in action shortly afterwards, but not before ordering Rubin’s sergeant to begin the necessary paperwork recommending Rubin for the Medal of Honor. Some of Rubin’s fellow GIs were present and witnessed when the order was issued to the sergeant, and all are convinced that the sergeant deliberately ignored the orders. “I really believe, in my heart, that [the sergeant] would have jeopardized his own safety rather than assist in any way whatsoever in the awarding of the Medal of Honor to a person of Jewish descent”, wrote Corporal Harold Speakman in a notarized affidavit.[2]”


9 posted on 02/21/2014 5:09:51 PM PST by golux
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To: Bogie

Amen ...


10 posted on 02/21/2014 5:10:49 PM PST by doc1019
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To: kristinn
Shades of the 1890’s when corrupt politicians handed out MOH’s for farting in the direction of the Confederates during the Civil War. Many of them had to be revoked later because they didn't even come close to the standard set for the MOH.
11 posted on 02/21/2014 5:11:46 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: kristinn

A lot of guys were put in for the MoH who didn’t get it for a variety of reasons, sometimes valid, sometimes petty. I’m glad to see past wrongs righted, but this seems, how should I say it...convenient? I wonder how after all these years they could tell.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 5:14:42 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: kristinn

1984 plus 40 = 2014

Rewritting History - The Prophecy Comes True


13 posted on 02/21/2014 5:16:11 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: kristinn

If they earned the award they should get it.Regardless of anything else.JMO


14 posted on 02/21/2014 5:16:48 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: kristinn

Race, Race, Race

Obama is dumbing down everything

Just like the Nobel Committee did when they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize


15 posted on 02/21/2014 5:19:35 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: Born to Conserve
It would be fair to review ALL DSC recipients, not just the special races, but that would result in too many white men receiving upgrades to the CMH.

You are correct sir. It would be racist to have too many white men getting top honors, because we know white men are totally EEEEEEVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIILLLLLL RACISTS. We know evil white men lay awake nights and think of ways to do in minorities. We know white men have this horrible war on women, because we like to see babies born. We all know white men are the most horrible monsters that have ever existed in the entire universe, and God obviously made a mistake when she crested these awful, disgusting cretins. Did I leave anything out and do I really need a sarcasm off tag?

16 posted on 02/21/2014 5:19:39 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

LOL, I mean when HE created them.


17 posted on 02/21/2014 5:24:37 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17
.....God obviously made a mistake when she crested these....

Well, I'm not saying God is male or female but I assure you HE is not just a female. That's an argument for another thread, just say'in.

18 posted on 02/21/2014 5:25:33 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: Born to Conserve; kristinn

“Born to Conserve wrote: It would be fair to review ALL DSC recipients, not just the special races, but that would result in too many white men receiving upgrades to the CMH.”

My sentiments too...and why is it so hard to give the CMH to DESERVING combatants? After all, they gave on to former Nebraska Governor & Senator Bob Kerrey for taking his charges ashore, making a wrong turn into a mine field, and getting his foot blown off...what a klutz...

(And btw, when Kerrey was Gov of Neb ‘Terms of Endearment’ was shot in Lincoln, and it was said that Debra Winger ‘swept him off his foot’)


19 posted on 02/21/2014 5:27:05 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: In God I trust

See 17. I don’t know how the misspelling got past my eagle eyes. I guess I was too busy watching this idiot actress on TV saying we don’t need the pipeline.


20 posted on 02/21/2014 5:33:20 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: kristinn

Charlie Rangel?


21 posted on 02/21/2014 5:39:25 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: kristinn

The Medal of Honor is highly valued because the standards for an award are very high. Many have said that the services, especially the Army, have set the standards too high for the current wars and have injected Pentagon bureaucrats, politicians, and lawyers who have never heard a shot fired in anger into the process.

I think that the awards system is seriously out of whack and this is yet more evidence. By design, more Distinguished Service Crosses are awarded than Medals of Honor. You have to draw a line somewhere and the distinction is a very fine one. The Distinguished Service Cross requires a very high degree of valor, it is not some consolation prize.

We have done this twice before, for Blacks and for Japanese Americans. Now we are doing it again. The claim that these soldiers were slighted because of their race strikes me as questionable. Perhaps in some cases in World War II, many a few cases in Korea, I doubt that had much of an effect in Vietnam. A much more important factor is the unit. Some units made more awards and recommendations than did others. Some divisions were known as stingy, others passed them out more freely.

Some political weenie reading documents 40-70 years after the facts is not going to come up with a better result, unless the goal is to make political points. This debases the Medal of Honor.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 5:40:41 PM PST by centurion316
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To: kristinn

More ignorance. They have to keep the hate going. Keep them on the plantation


23 posted on 02/21/2014 5:41:30 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back

“”During the course of the review it was determined that six soldiers not of Hispanic or Jewish backgrounds should also have their Distinguished Service Crosses upgraded to the Medal of Honor. “”

And they decided not to state exactly what was the background of those not Hispanic or Jewish? What do they take us for? Don’t bother answering that. We know what and how they think..


24 posted on 02/21/2014 5:50:22 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: kristinn

Any time you bring race into the equation, I immediately think of Affirmative Action. And in the case of these soldiers, I wonder if they were indeed worthy of the MOH......


25 posted on 02/21/2014 5:50:22 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Was Occam's razor made by Gillette?)
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To: golux

Wow. Sounds like he’s a saint too. Reminds me of Father Kapaun.


26 posted on 02/21/2014 5:53:06 PM PST by Mercat
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To: kristinn

Lots to comment on here. Yes there was discrimination against Blacks, Jews and Hispanics in WW2, often by Patton and if correct, Mad Dog Smith (Marines) in the Pacific. Patton was admonished by Eisenhower for it after seeing how Jewish Displaced Persons were so badly treated in their housing and feeding in captured German towns (where German POWs lived in better houses than the DP’s).

Okay, shit happens, and when it can be corrected, not only “SHOULD” it be, it “MUST”. That is why soldiers and sailors and other servicement and women have “buddies”. That’s what buddies are for, to protect and help each other regardless of race, religion or ethnic origins.

The Lubin and Kravitz stories have been around for a long time. Glad to see that others are going to get their long due recognition.

Remember, the legislation for the metals review was passed and signed into law under the George Bush administration (2002). A “thanks” to all involved in this effort.

But also remember, Obama only uses MOH awards ceremonies as PhotoOps for his “Selfie” collection. He couldn’t give a flying shit about the soldiers themselves, or he would never have allowed the damned Rules of Engagement he literally signed off on, to be implimented in Iraq and esp. Afghanistan.

He would not have gone to sleep or play golf when the shit hit the fan in Benghazi.

He would not have allowed the ROE to prevent artillery and air support for the Manat Valley, Outpost Keating, and other operational debacles in Afghanistan. The Commander in Chief should have said” Provide our forces with all the support they need to win”, not to allow them to be picked off one at a time in ambushes which could have been defeated by good artillery and air support.

I don’t recall these restrictive and deadly ROEs in Nam. There were sensible ROEs regarding civilians in combat zones, but nothing like the Obama/Dempsey/Hagel et al handcuffing and killing our of military in Afghanistan.

PS: My son was ordered NOT TO FIRE on Mujaheedin terrorists in Iraq when his unit came under their fire BECAUSE THE TERRORISTS WERE USING WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS HUMAN SHIELDS. He had to “hunker down” and take the fire, not returning any, until he had a clear shot (and when he did, the enemy died - God bless the M249).

Our political, civilian and military leadership today is a disgrace to the Services, those who serve in them, and to our country.

A firing squad would be too dignified for those who deserve it, but, in reality, a long jail sentence in Leavenworth is still an option.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 5:53:55 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: kristinn

My Father had a friend in WWII who was a New York Jew. One day the guy was reading a letter from home and remarked about how ironic something was.

It turned out one of his friends in New York had been killed in an accident. The ironic part was his parents had used political pull to keep him out of the draft.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 5:55:25 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: kristinn
On June 21, 2000, President Clinton awarded the Medal of Honor to 22 Asian Americans, 20 of whom were Japanese American WWII veterans.

Interesting how two 'rat presidents with absolutely no prior military experience are handing out the MOH like candy to their faithful constituent base. Both these presidents lied about how they avoided military service.

29 posted on 02/21/2014 6:10:24 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: kristinn

That is unacceptably sexist. Hillary needs to do a search for deserving women and award 24 MOH to women who served in the same time period.


30 posted on 02/21/2014 7:08:36 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Iron Munro

1984 + 40 = 2024


31 posted on 02/21/2014 8:18:22 PM PST by getarope (Jesus is coming soon, and boy is he PISSED!)
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To: kristinn

The Left seeks to destroy all absolute standards.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 9:29:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mark17

:) no problem we all do it. That’s what you get for watching ANY actor say ANYTHING! Live and learn my friend lol.


33 posted on 02/21/2014 10:03:41 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: BluH2o

In my mind, retrospective active GROUP awards carry a political “asterisk (*)” alongside. But god bless ALL the brave men.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 10:04:25 AM PST by BilLies (330,000 WHITE Union military went to their deaths to free the slaves .... REALLY???!!!)
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To: centurion316; kristinn
This debases the Medal of Honor.

It does.

The very fact that the news release from the White House and the Pentagon mentions that the review was raced based means that this entire action was driven by ugly racial politics.

No one want to diminish the service of any veteran, but let's take this in context.

Anyone know who this is?

That is Major Dick Winters, 101st Airborne, of "Band of Brother" fame.

He was portrayed in the Tom Hanks/Steven Spielberg produced HBO series by actor Damian Lewis.

Major Winters passed away recently (Jan 2, 2011).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Winters

Maj Winters led an assault on several German artillery emplacements that were firing upon our troops on Omaha beach. He led an attack requiring almost unbelievable heroism and bravery.

http://www.majordickwinters.com/

He should have been awarded the Medal of Honor, and even his commanders at the time acknowledged that fact.

But because there were Army policies that limited MOH citations (no more than XX from the same units), he was denied.

For many years, friends and supporters of Maj Winters attempted to get his citation upgraded to the Medal of Honor. It was met by fierce resistance and absolute silence by Washington and the Dept of Defense.

Suddenly, one day, the White House and DoD announce dozens of new MOH recipients, and cite race and discrimination as the main factor in pushing them forward.

I am sorry, but this is wrong. Period.

If Major Winters was not deserving of the upgrade in his citation to the MOH, then none of these others should have been pushed through.

35 posted on 02/22/2014 12:19:32 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: kristinn; rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; ...
This includes four Puerto Ricans: MSG Juan Negron, PVT Miguel Vera, PVT Demensio Rivera (Korea) and SSG Felix M. Conde (Vietnam).

Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


36 posted on 02/24/2014 6:55:07 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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