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Religious Right in Arizona Cheers Bill Allowing Businesses to Refuse to Serve Gays
New York Times ^ | 02/21/2014 | By MICHAEL PAULSON and FERNANDA SANTOS

Posted on 02/21/2014 7:25:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind

In New Mexico, a photographer declined to take pictures of a lesbian couple’s commitment ceremony. In Washington State, a florist would not provide flowers for a same-sex wedding. And in Colorado, a baker refused to make a cake for a party celebrating the wedding of two men.

The business owners cited religious beliefs in declining to provide services celebrating same-sex relationships. And in each case, they were sued.

Now, as states around the nation weigh how to balance the rights of same-sex couples with those of conservative religious business owners, Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona must decide whether to sign legislation that would allow business owners to cite religious beliefs as a legal justification for denying service to same-sex couples.

The legislation, approved by lawmakers on Thursday, immediately attracted national attention, with conservative religious groups welcoming it as a necessary form of protection for objectors to same-sex marriage, and gay rights groups denouncing it as a license for discrimination. The measure comes at a time when the courts are grappling with how to define the religious rights of private businesses: The Supreme Court is to hear two cases next month in which businesses are seeking exemptions from providing insurance coverage for contraception to their employees, citing the religious beliefs of the companies’ owners.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; gaymarriage; gaynewsrooms; homosexuals; pantiesinawad; pinkjournalism; pravdamedia; religiousright

1 posted on 02/21/2014 7:25:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The “religious” left is cheering, too! Somehow they just can’t help smearing the right.


2 posted on 02/21/2014 7:26:51 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (Unite in the primary to unseat RINOs...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Speaking of marriage, when’s the national divorce?


3 posted on 02/21/2014 7:27:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I truly believe the bottom line for homosexuals is to silence Christianity completely. That is the only thing that will make them happy. Well, it ain’t gonna happen!


4 posted on 02/21/2014 7:28:56 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great question 2nd. ;-)


5 posted on 02/21/2014 7:29:27 PM PST by doc1019
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To: SeekAndFind

NYT = Bigots.


6 posted on 02/21/2014 7:29:41 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We will not partake in the celebration of sin...


7 posted on 02/21/2014 7:29:54 PM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Veruca McCain is already squealing like a pig.

http://twitchy.com/2014/02/21/meghan-mccain-calls-arizonas-religious-freedom-bill-un-american-and-embarrassing/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter


8 posted on 02/21/2014 7:30:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
That is the only thing that will make them happy.

They will never be happy. Maybe miserable, self-hating, knowing that they are flipping off the creator of the universe. But not happy.

9 posted on 02/21/2014 7:31:49 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SeekAndFind

My wife dreams of owning a bed and breakfast. I reminded her some queers could want to stay and she quickly decided it wasn’t a good idea


10 posted on 02/21/2014 7:31:57 PM PST by Sybeck1
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee, how long before this is overturned by some federal judge?


11 posted on 02/21/2014 7:33:14 PM PST by doc1019
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To: SeekAndFind

We need a law allowing the free exercise of religion (including refusing to do business in a manner that violates religious values) and freedom of association (including refusal to associate with those conducting in-your-face celebrations of activities that normal individuals find revolting), and this law should supersede laws passed merely for diversity or symbolism. In fact, those freedoms are so important that they should be declared part of the Supreme Law of the Land.


12 posted on 02/21/2014 7:33:20 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Tonight while flipping channels I saw Anderson Cooper discussing something about the multitudes of religions in the US and how it doesn't make sense to accomodate them all. IOW, FedGov trumps religious liberty.

AC used the term “White Supremacist Christians” as a group. I've NEVER heard this before - anywhere. Why now?

Wasn't Cooper an ex-CIA man? The Christian persecution is coming to America and he knows it.

13 posted on 02/21/2014 7:33:49 PM PST by Paulie (Buy local, bank local, exert your influence locally; the left will fold like a cheap suit.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm sure there is a Leftist judge somewhere just itching to issue a stay if Brewer signs it, thus allowing homos to continue to target religious businesses and harass them for political purposes.

Meanwhile, in - what State is it? - homos are being encouraged to not wait for the June date when a law allowing them to marry goes into effect. Why not a stay on that to "examine the issues"?

14 posted on 02/21/2014 7:34:23 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good law. I expect that homosexual photogs have reciprocal rights. Always toward freedom even .


15 posted on 02/21/2014 7:36:28 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SeekAndFind

Great! Now a person can tell the strange ones to go stick it.....oh, wait.....


16 posted on 02/21/2014 7:37:06 PM PST by stboz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not soon enough.


17 posted on 02/21/2014 7:37:41 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: doc1019

I would bet that draft opinions are already being circulated among the fellow travelers.


18 posted on 02/21/2014 7:39:28 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I truly believe the bottom line for homosexuals is to silence Christianity completely.”

Should be. But just like any liberal, the objective is to destroy Christianity by making the environment so morally sickening we have no choice but to comply. Funny that doesn’t work but it makes me hate faggots more everyday.


19 posted on 02/21/2014 7:43:51 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Trod Upon

Undoubtedly


20 posted on 02/21/2014 7:43:52 PM PST by doc1019
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To: SeekAndFind

Stick it to their lobby and the New York Slimes!

If Arizona can do it, why can’t Kansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, South Carolina, etc?

Time after time, we have acted too late. We should have called a Mark Levin style constitutional convention in the 1990s to define marriage as a man and a woman in the constitution, effectively bypassing any judicial rulings. Heck, Clinton might have been on board!

We should have gotten the state constitutional marriage amendments done a DECADE before we started. If we had gotten all the states when there was still broad support, we might have stopped them in their tracks.

NOW IS THE TIME to protect Christians and other sincere people of moral conviction from this outright fascism being perpetrated by a mob no different from the people who used to march around with Ernst Roehm, neither in their views of freedom nor their sexual proclivities.
These freedoms are couched in the 1st Amendment. They cannot be struck down by the Supreme Court without affirming that we no longer have a 1st Amendment, and if they do that, then the time will have come to ‘disband those ties that bind’.

There is no excuse for red states where we control both chambers not to pass similar bills. No excuse whatsoever.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 7:44:44 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not just the “religious right” that is cheering in Arizona. We love pissing off that criminal thug, Holder.


22 posted on 02/21/2014 7:45:10 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not “refuse to serve gays”. It is “refuse to participate in a marriage they consider fake and immoral”.

They WANT to say “refuse to serve gays” because then it is like “refuse to serve blacks”. But the correct comparison would be “refuse to drive blacks to a drug deal”.


23 posted on 02/21/2014 7:51:38 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m not “religious” at all ... and I’m cheering


24 posted on 02/21/2014 8:02:06 PM PST by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s the religion of the taxi drivers at the Phoenix airport? If it’s like the Minneapolis airport, a good number are Muslim. So be aware that their religious beliefs, if protected by this new law, will allow them to leave you at the curbside if you are traveling with a dog (pet or guide dog). Also, brought home duty free liquor? If the cabbie sees it, you’ll remain curbside. I haven’t heard of Muslim cabbies refusing to carry women traveling alone, but I can certainly see that happening. Won’t that make traveling fun?


25 posted on 02/21/2014 8:02:31 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Sybeck1
"I reminded her some queers could want to stay…"

Oh, it would. It happened to a relative of mine. Bought a nice spread with a second cabin they rented out as a vacation B&B. A 'couple' rented it, the first morning they were frolicking around the yard in their underwear. That was the last time they rented it. To anybody!

28 posted on 02/21/2014 8:22:30 PM PST by moehoward
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To: SeekAndFind

You two guys need a cake when? No, we’re already booked for that date. Next!


29 posted on 02/21/2014 8:58:25 PM PST by bgill
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To: SeekAndFind

a legal right to “be” “gay” is not a legal commandment that someone MUST sell you flowers, take your picture or bake you a cake

if people cannot chose, for religious or moral reasons, who they will serve or associate with then there is no Liberty to speak of.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 9:17:49 PM PST by Wuli
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To: cripplecreek

‘We reserve the right to refuse service to the McCains.’


33 posted on 02/21/2014 9:28:09 PM PST by bakeneko
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t count on Brewer.


34 posted on 02/21/2014 9:38:51 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Homosexuals don’t care about Christianity, except in the fevered imaginations of low-information Christians who watch too much television.

I do think they don’t want to end up wearing pink triangles.

Look it up

/for the record, I’m don’t feel threatened by homos, and really don’t care about them
//And before you quote the Bible at me; Lev 15 19-30


35 posted on 02/22/2014 6:41:06 AM PST by warchild9
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To: ConstantSkeptic

I think people better be careful what they wish for. This could backfire on those who are in favor of this bill.


36 posted on 02/22/2014 7:06:17 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

In what way?


37 posted on 02/22/2014 7:41:24 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

It is ridiculous but if the shoe were on the other foot, would those on the right be crying foul, too?


38 posted on 02/22/2014 11:18:56 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: hsmomx3

Personally, I’d just take my business elsewhere. No need to make a fuss.


39 posted on 02/22/2014 3:01:54 PM PST by RPTMS (I know you're a nincompoop, and I strongly suspect you of being a scalawag!)
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To: Viennacon

rino wusses backed downed on religious liberty in ks, idaho, ohio. utah is trying to pass religious liberty. these rinos will claim to support traditional marriage, while opposing discrimination. very dishonest of them. the silver lining is that enda (pro-gay rights laws) will stall in congress and other states. only 21 states have enda laws.


40 posted on 02/22/2014 8:24:17 PM PST by yongin
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