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Plan to divide California into 6 states advances
Yahoo News/AP ^ | 2-21-14 | MICHAEL R. BLOOD

Posted on 02/22/2014 1:32:05 AM PST by kingattax

California has reached the breaking point, says Tim Draper. The Silicon Valley venture capitalist is pushing a proposal to crack the nation's most populous state into smaller pieces — six of them.

California has grown so big, so inefficient, it's essentially ungovernable, according to a ballot initiative that could reach voters as early as November.

It has to go, he says.

"Vast parts of our state are poorly served by a representative government," according to Draper's plan, which cleared a key government hurdle this week, part of the process to qualify for the ballot. California residents "would be better served by six smaller state governments."

In an interview Thursday, Draper said he has seen a state once regarded as a model slide into decline — many public schools are troubled, transportation, water and other infrastructure systems are overmatched and outdated, spending on prisons has soared.

A group of states could change that, he said, competing and cooperating with each other.

Without change "it will get worse," he warned. "California is not working."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
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To: PGalt

Declaration of Dependence

oooooh that is good, I can see it, but it would need to be financed by taxpayers, and if nothing else brought sanity to the idea you balance a budget and don’t spend your way into prosperity, this idea would in short order.

Those on the payer side would revolt, or as you put it, necessarily be physically separate actually perhaps physically surround the others so none escape the results of their Declaration, which would be instant uncivil war.

No one desires uncivil war, but why involve the party that knows the value of money, work, property, and human rights. Let the other party hash that out, and then maybe we can get on with life as it once was.

It seems on the face of it that this involves primarily cities/cesspools, vs those who produce and or provide the food and water that sustains them. It is unfortunated that many good folks live within the boundaries of said cities because of employment.

Great idea, and deserves more thought.


21 posted on 02/22/2014 3:41:04 AM PST by wita
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To: wita

Don’t know how after reading and rereading that unfortunated escaped.


22 posted on 02/22/2014 3:46:18 AM PST by wita
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To: djf

“Never happen. Congress will not approve it.”

Then, whether red or blue “states”, maybe they should opt to just stay out. Given how things are today, why stay in?


23 posted on 02/22/2014 3:47:00 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: kingattax

It could almost be a good thing but ONLY under the condition that 5 other states get absorbed so that we stayed at 50. RI, DE, VT, CT, NH.

We would lose the potentially conservative NH, but gain a likely conservative East CA state.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 3:54:34 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: kingattax

One criteria must be met before any of this happens. The initial balance of senators will have to be maintained; six Dems and six Repubs.


25 posted on 02/22/2014 3:56:15 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V OR 9th plus 10th equals V)
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To: kingattax

And even if this ballot passes, I am sure that some judge will rule unconstitutional.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 3:59:54 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V OR 9th plus 10th equals V)
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To: kingattax

Going to extremes to cover obamas butt for his “57 states” remark.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 4:06:02 AM PST by jughandle
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To: wita
Don’t know how after reading and rereading that unfortunated escaped.

Sheesh, wita. Don't give the lexiCON artists of the left another downtrodden collective, The Unfortunated - those without fortunes. They'll be no escaping that gang.

28 posted on 02/22/2014 4:41:34 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

They’ll

(How did that escape. This stuff’s contagious.)

: )


29 posted on 02/22/2014 4:46:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: djf

“Going from 2 Senators to 12?”

Your assumption being 12 rat senators? If you took Frisco and LA out of the equation, you might find a few Republican senators in the mix.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 4:57:25 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: kingattax

Yeah, big states are the problem.... look at Texas. Oh, wait, that’s not a good example. Look at any state run by Marxists, regardless of size.


31 posted on 02/22/2014 5:00:11 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: PGalt

I still contend, despite the contagion, it’s a great idea that time and conditions have caused to surface.


32 posted on 02/22/2014 5:01:15 AM PST by wita
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To: Grimmy
This bears repeating:

There is no peaceful solution anymore. The destructionists have been given too much for too long and there’s no taking it back by reasonable means.

However, I disagree with your use and context of the term "reasonable". I argue that there is legitimate and well thought out reasoning behind armed revolt... Our history as a nation, the war for independence, stands as proof of this.

33 posted on 02/22/2014 5:14:40 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: Tucker39
Part of a plan to retroactively make Obunga correct regarding 57 States. Which includes splitting NY into 3, Texas into 4, merging RI and CT and also DE with MD.....I’m getting confused as to what else....

That is exactly where I was going with that as well - anything to make anything Obama say true.

34 posted on 02/22/2014 5:19:26 AM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: kingattax
I have no problem splitting California, Oregon and Washington into eight new Mexican and Canadian states. San Fran and north to Canada, south to Mexico. Reduces Progressive Socialists, a.k.a. DemocRats population in Congress AND electoral college.
35 posted on 02/22/2014 5:22:21 AM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: kingattax
Why does this idea bring to mind a staph virus multiplying in a petri dish...


36 posted on 02/22/2014 5:24:11 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: PGalt
Socialist legislators could sign a Declaration of Dependence with their socialist, low-information and FSA voters, deceased voters and fascist/corrupt businessmen.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 5:26:09 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: DH

Six states would be too many—how about just two? North and south California? We in the south are very different from the folks up in the Bay area—we don’t mind if you call LA—LA. Up there they have a fit if you call Frisco—well, frisco. In South California we could make Santa Barbara the state capital! Our Motto “Kawabunga!” the state rodent Mickey Mouse. We could legalize gambling like Nevada and lower the drinking age to 18—maybe legalize Pot. Then, take all the restrictings and crippling Union rules off Hollywood so it could be great again. Hey, maybe they would move the Tonight Show back to the west coast.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 5:41:01 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

How about we make Jay Leno Governor! We could even declare a unilateral Declaration of Independence from North California! Maybe do it on April First. With The provisional Governor Jay Leno, Lt Governor, Kelsy Grammer. perhaps you have some ideas for the new state of South California?


39 posted on 02/22/2014 5:47:52 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Rodamala

“However, I disagree with your use and context of the term “reasonable”. I argue that there is legitimate and well thought out reasoning behind armed revolt... Our history as a nation, the war for independence, stands as proof of this.”

I don’t find anything in what you said to disagree with.


40 posted on 02/22/2014 6:12:10 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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