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With no perceived threats to rights, gun sales way down
Madison.com ^ | 22 feb 2014 | Steve Elbow

Posted on 02/22/2014 5:48:20 AM PST by rellimpank

With no recent high-profile events to drive the level of purchases seen in recent years, gun sales are way down.

"Background checks by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, considered to be the most accurate means of tracking gun sales, plunged by a third in January compared to the year before," CNN reported last week. "There were about 1.66 million background checks last month and nearly 2.5 million in January the year before."

The sharp decline can be seen in Wisconsin, where the state's handgun hotline registered only 7,702 handguns purchased in January, down from 22,214 in January 2013, according to the state Department of Justice, a whopping 65 percent decrease. Those figures don't include long-gun sales, which are tracked through the federal gun registry.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; rkba
--maybe ammo manufacture can catch up, also--
1 posted on 02/22/2014 5:48:21 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

It may be time to do a little gun shopping. Bought the last one in November but 4 months is time enough.

Hmmmmmm.......


2 posted on 02/22/2014 5:54:28 AM PST by FAA
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To: rellimpank
the state's handgun hotline registered only 7,702 handguns purchased in January, down from 22,214 in January 2013
Hmmm, what effect did this January's brutal weather have on registrations?
Are there other ways to register other than the state "hotline?"
What were the historic January registration numbers for the last 4 or 5 years?
3 posted on 02/22/2014 5:56:27 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: FAA

Big old gun show at the AZ fairgrounds today. Maybe I’ll bring the señora and let her accessorize....


4 posted on 02/22/2014 5:57:54 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: rellimpank

Well, two being the maximum simultaneous deployment, I’ll venture to guess that Mr.Elbow’s wishful thinking-inspired piece was typed with voluble graveyard whistling in the background.


5 posted on 02/22/2014 5:58:59 AM PST by tomkat
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To: rellimpank

Reaching saturation point? Saw a stat where US was 101 guns for every 100 people....


6 posted on 02/22/2014 5:59:03 AM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: rellimpank

OK, here it comes:

“More and more guns are being bought by fewer and fewer people.”

That’s the Brady mantra; gun owners are a shrinking & troublesome minority, so it’s safe to go after them!

(Bulltwinkies.....the gun owning percentage of the population is soaring.)


7 posted on 02/22/2014 6:00:36 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: rellimpank

Maybe everyone just bought guns for Christmas....


8 posted on 02/22/2014 6:02:04 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: rellimpank

I wonder how ‘private’ sales are doing ..... they don’t show up on the background check radar.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 6:02:39 AM PST by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: rellimpank

I wish ammo sales would go down.

As for the drop in gun sales from last year, this is no surprise. Last year we probably saw a lot of pulled forward demand due to the talk out of DC. Sales are likely returning back to ‘average’. If I were a manufacturer, I’d be continuing with increased production so I would be readily supplied for the next big panic, which WILL come.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 6:03:06 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

It is an excellent time to replace that AR that was lost in a canoeing accident.


11 posted on 02/22/2014 6:07:27 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Mechanicos

I think there are many issues at play here in addition to the saturation point. One could easily be fact that many are using funds other than wages to live on with employment so far down leaving less for firearms. Another could be fact that more people have arms today, those who care to have them, then who feel they don’t want them. Lack of ammo may be another, why buy a firearm when you cannot get ammo at a reasonable price for it could be a concern. Lastly, in some states, mostly California and the Northeast, laws are such to dissuade the purchase of firearms and the places to shoot them are less than they were before.

Personally I’ve been thinking of picking up a 25-06 but decided against it due to the my cash balances, ammo availability, and the closest range is 50 miles away.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 6:10:10 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: rellimpank

“...where the state’s handgun hotline registered only 7,702 handguns purchased in January...”

ONLY 7702...in one month?

That’s funny.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 6:12:51 AM PST by moovova
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To: mad_as_he$$
It is an excellent time to replace that AR that was lost in a canoeing accident.

FReepers are the most accident prone people when it comes to boats.

14 posted on 02/22/2014 6:13:00 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V OR 9th plus 10th equals V)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Yup, maybe FR needs a boating safety thread.;-)


15 posted on 02/22/2014 6:16:20 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: moovova

And...what is Mr. Elbow’s idea of “no perceived threat”?

Anybody that cares about their freedom is well aware of and absolutely perceives the threat.

Guy’s an idiot.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 6:18:19 AM PST by moovova
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To: mad_as_he$$
Darn boating accidents....


17 posted on 02/22/2014 6:25:53 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: FAA

Better watch out. The Gun of the Month Club might drive you out of your house. I, too, had that problem before The Horrible Boating Tragedy.


18 posted on 02/22/2014 6:25:59 AM PST by libstripper (Asv)
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To: mad_as_he$$
It is an excellent time to replace that AR that was lost in a canoeing accident.

Maybe it's time to get that Stag 8 after all

19 posted on 02/22/2014 6:27:29 AM PST by onona (The entitlement army doesnÂ’t vote for candidates, they vote for gravy.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

Sad, the bottoms of the U.S. waterways are carpeted with FReepers’ lost boats and guns. OH, THE HORROR OF IT ALL!


20 posted on 02/22/2014 6:29:13 AM PST by libstripper (Asv)
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To: rellimpank
There's also a point where the best prepper in the world knows 800 rolls of toilet paper is enough...
21 posted on 02/22/2014 6:32:47 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because the left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfi)
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To: rellimpank
Those figures don't include long-gun sales, which are tracked through the federal gun registry.

I perceive a threat right there. The law says a federal registry on gun sales is not kept and background checks destroyed after 24 hours. There are exceptions but normal gun sales are not supposed to be part of any federal gun registry. (by the way I'm not naïve when it comes to the feds. Also the NSA has the background check telephone call.)

22 posted on 02/22/2014 6:33:39 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: rellimpank

It is a BS article.

Try to buy some ammo and see what you find.

Few months back it looked like the shelves in nearby WalMart were recovering a bit, now totally bare again.

Same with ammo and reloading components at the on-line supply houses.

And finally, Remington is moving to AL. Company formed in NY in 1816. Moving. hee hee hee

They were saying that the company was expanding to AL. But the local paper in AL said MOVING. Which implies corp. headquarters would be moved.

If you think this is over, you need to think again.


23 posted on 02/22/2014 6:34:48 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: rellimpank
With my "larger than squirrel" hunting days all but over and 60 staring me right in the face, I'm at the lowest firearm inventory I've had in 30+ years. Somewhat to my surprise, I'm actually comfortable with it.

--maybe ammo manufacture can catch up, also-- Within the last month, I have been able to get back up to inventory on everything but rimfire. Last year, I stopped using overpriced and underavailable .22LR, resorting to my HW springer. After sorting out a few issues and rediscovering the fine qualities of a good air rifle, I don't think I'll be returning to the level of .22LR consumption of my earlier days even when that ammo situation improves.

Mr.niteowl77

24 posted on 02/22/2014 6:50:44 AM PST by niteowl77 ("Why do we go to Iowa? Because that's where the suckers are.")
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To: mad_as_he$$
It is an excellent time to replace that AR that was lost in a canoeing accident.

With even the Great Lakes frozen over, fewer and fewer guns have been lost in fishing accidents. Maybe an occasional pistol while ice fishing, but that's it.

25 posted on 02/22/2014 6:54:32 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: niteowl77; All
--located thirty miles from Frontsite, the local Walmart used to get ammo by the pallet-

-don't really have a way to judge overall demand here, but the Walmart shelves empty quickly--even with a three box limit per customer--

26 posted on 02/22/2014 6:59:50 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Mechanicos
Saw a stat where US was 101 guns for every 100 people....

That was me alone.

27 posted on 02/22/2014 7:23:52 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: rellimpank

Prolly cause everyone bought 10 guns each last year. :-)


28 posted on 02/22/2014 7:24:58 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: moovova

I thought so too. That’s almost 260 per day.


29 posted on 02/22/2014 7:25:00 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: oh8eleven

with wisc. having open carry awhile and concealed recently, maybe there are just too few people left who don’t own guns ....


30 posted on 02/22/2014 7:25:30 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: niteowl77
With my "larger than squirrel" hunting days all but over and 60 staring me right in the face ...

Don't sell yourself short. John Buhmiller was quite a bit older when he took off to Africa to test his cartridge designs on buff and elephant.

31 posted on 02/22/2014 7:30:02 AM PST by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: rellimpank

I guess the financial genius who wrote this has never heard of “Market Saturation?”

I have faith in Obastard going to bat for the gun manufacturers again, next tragedy he decides to exploit for political gain. He can’t help himself. I wouldn’t be shorting Sturm Ruger stock just yet.


32 posted on 02/22/2014 7:38:08 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: mad_as_he$$
It is an excellent time to replace that AR that was lost in a canoeing accident.

Someone posted a picture on a thread the past couple of days that said something to the effect of:

Danger, river bottom is full of guns.

33 posted on 02/22/2014 7:55:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: rellimpank

Last year, I bought all the guns I will ever need or want. Why would I do that again this year?

Well, OK... There is always just one more gun that I really, really want...

But my big wife-approved, budget-busting buying spree is over.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 8:21:26 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: rellimpank
a drop in gun sales, and a THREAT TO OUR RIGHTS, have absolutely NOTHING in common...
35 posted on 02/22/2014 8:22:33 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

They say when you think it’s time to bury your weapon, its actually the time not to.


36 posted on 02/22/2014 8:34:38 AM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Texas Fossil

It seems as though the online reloading supply places can’t get their orders filled, shipped into them either. They get much smaller orders longer distances apart without any answers to why; no joke. Money slipping right through their hands and they claim it’s only going to get worse in 2014.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 9:22:30 AM PST by Eska
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To: Eska

Well, I began collecting reloading supplies in January 2013.

Don’t have enough yet, but it is not as bad as when I started.

Have not purchased any guns. Just reloading and ammo.

I am not surprised at what you told me, but think I may buy a little more because of what you said.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 4:06:45 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Haiku Guy
But my big wife-approved, budget-busting buying spree is over.

Copy that

OTOH, a box of this here and a box of that there are not frowned upon

39 posted on 02/22/2014 4:44:15 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: kitchen
John Buhmiller was quite a bit older when he took off to Africa to test his cartridge designs on buff and elephant.

I read articles some years ago about John Buhmiller's trips to Africa, and now that you mention it, he wasn't a spring chicken at the time... I also remember thinking that he was a tad on the small side to be regularly absorbing some of the recoil his rifles generated.

(He also didn't dress anything like Hollywood's idea of a man on safari.)

Mr. niteowl77

40 posted on 02/22/2014 5:12:18 PM PST by niteowl77 ("Why do we go to Iowa? Because that's where the suckers are.")
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