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Ukraine’s Leader Flees Palace as Protesters Widen Control
nytimes ^ | FEB. 22, 2014 | By ANDREW HIGGINS and ANDREW E. KRAMER 4:33 AM ET

Posted on 02/22/2014 7:20:44 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: hoagy62
It’s also being reported (although kinda lost in the shuffle) that the chief rabbi of Kiev is telling Jews to flee the country. There is apparently a LOT of anti-Semitism going on and it could get very dangerous for Ukrainian Jews.

Do you have a direct quote?

It was just two days ago that this was reported...

Link

51 posted on 02/22/2014 8:54:40 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: crosslink

See...that makes me think that Vlad will take action as soon as the Olympics are done.

But...remember that the Paralympics are supposed to happen in March in Sochi as well. Do you think he will risk that?


52 posted on 02/22/2014 8:54:42 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Sacajaweau

“All I’ve been hearing lately IN THE PRESS is a lot of stories about “Bad Russia”.”

I’m sure there’s a good story about Putin’s Russia to be written, just by sheer force of chance, there has to be something he’s doing that’s not corrupt. Why don’t you go write that story for us.


53 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:12 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: FreeReign
Do I have a quote? Sort of.

I do need to walk something back...it was NOT the chief rabbi of Kiev, but another, and he's telling Jews to flee Kiev, not the country. Here's the article:

Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Urges Jews to Flee Kiev After Attack on Students

54 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:32 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: FreeInWV

Even the younger generation (21 and under) detest the Russians. I work as an English teacher, and I hear it quite a bit. And you’re dead-on about the Holodomor - the Ukrainians haven’t forgotten that one iota.


55 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:38 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: hoagy62
This is a pic off Twitter of one of Yank's toilets, found after the opposition got into his palace....



OMG, I want one!
56 posted on 02/22/2014 9:01:15 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: hoagy62

Yes, remember that Syria was all about a pipeline that was proposed to run thru its country and put the Ukrainian pipeline at risk. It was not about weapons. That’s why the French were so involved. Everyone wanted that pipeline but Russia.

This puts the main source of domestic revenue at risk to Vlad. He and his ruthless interior minister will not allow that.


57 posted on 02/22/2014 9:01:53 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Blackyce

It’s sort of “Banana Republic meets Liberace”.


58 posted on 02/22/2014 9:02:41 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: crosslink

Ya. That makes me wonder just what’s going to happen next.


59 posted on 02/22/2014 9:03:23 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
"Even the younger generation (21 and under) detest the Russians. I work as an English teacher, and I hear it quite a bit. And you’re dead-on about the Holodomor - the Ukrainians haven’t forgotten that one iota."

They shouldn't forget, anymore than Poland should forget Katyn. Nothing good comes from Russia extending its influence beyond its borders.
60 posted on 02/22/2014 9:05:24 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: hoagy62

It has started the eastern states have voted that they think this is illegal. Next they will ask for help. Then we watch. Vlad will see where our fleet is and how Bambi reacts.

Vlad plays chess Bambi and his minions play checkers


61 posted on 02/22/2014 9:06:43 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Via the BBC, In pictures: Protests at Ukraine presidential home.
62 posted on 02/22/2014 9:11:57 AM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: crosslink

I know one of our ships that was supposed to be in the area...the USS Taylor...ran aground and damaged it’s prop.

I don’t think we have many assets in the Black Sea. Not to mention...those that ARE there are mostly in anti-terrorism support for the Olympics. I doubt Bambi would send ships or troops into harms way for Ukraine.


63 posted on 02/22/2014 9:15:29 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Prospero
I personally detest the word "pics,"

"They are not Pics or Photos,they are Photographs".

Ansel Adams, circa 1960 to his student Joseph Schuett at Yosemite National Park

64 posted on 02/22/2014 9:16:53 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: kristinn
Anti-government protesters inside presidential The protesters, armed with sticks and makeshift armour, celebrated on the steps of the president's official residence. The once heavily guarded and walled building, the Mezhyhirya, sits about 15km (10 miles) north of the capital, Kiev.
Protester waves an EU flag in the presidential residence north of Kiev (22 Feb 2014) This protester waved an EU flag on the steps of the official residence. The protests began in November as a show of support for the EU, after Mr Yanukovych walked away from a planned trade deal with the EU in favour of closer ties with Russia.
Official president's residence in Kiev, Ukraine (22 Feb 2014) Mr Yanukovych was not in the residence at the time. He has left Kiev, and is reportedly in Kharkiv, to the east. That city is close to the Russian border, and traditionally leans politically towards Moscow.
Hallway through the window of the presidential residence in Ukraine (22 Feb 2014) No-one appeared to have gone inside the building, but people managed to take photos of the apparently deserted residence through the windows.
Protesters give a victory sign in the presidential residence in Ukraine (22 Feb 2014) These opposition protesters took the opportunity to relax on garden furniture outside the residential buildings.
Protester celebrate in the presidential residence north of Kiev (22 Feb 2014) There was no sign of attempts by security to stop as people celebrated in the grounds.
People stream towards residence north of Kiev (22 Feb 2014) A BBC correspondent photographed streams of people walking towards the building, unhindered by security or police.
Sign in grounds of presidential residence in Ukraine (22 feb 2014) President Yanukovych has lost his hold on power in Ukraine. Signs in the grounds of his home appeared to openly mock him,
Parliamentarians celebrate after voting to oust Mr Yanukovych (22 Feb 2014) Meanwhile in parliament, opposition MPs celebrated after a vote was passed to remove Mr Yanukovych from power and hold elections on 25 May. He has denounced recent events as a coup, comparing the actions of the opposition to the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

65 posted on 02/22/2014 9:19:34 AM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: usual suspect
Whatever happened to the "Putin Love-Fest" I used to see here on the Free Republic (in certain quarters). I'm talking about the ones that would post pics of Putin's naked upper torso and slobber about how manly he was compared to (fill in name of U.S. politician here).

Anyway, very interesting news out of the Ukraine. I think this bodes well for the free world. Hopefully the U.S. will wake up before it's too late.

66 posted on 02/22/2014 9:23:08 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: usual suspect
Prayers for the folks!

And Putin needs to stay out!

67 posted on 02/22/2014 9:23:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: hoagy62
Thanks for the quote.

There appears to be multiple chief rabbis.

Anyway it looks like it was one of the chief rabbis' sons who was quoted. He bases his comment on an anti semitic attack that occurred about a month ago.

Hopefully it's an isolated instance.

68 posted on 02/22/2014 9:24:17 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Many more photos of Yanukovych's estate from a Live Journal blog entry.
69 posted on 02/22/2014 9:34:00 AM PST by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: crosslink

Thanks for the ping!


70 posted on 02/22/2014 9:37:36 AM PST by maggief
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71 posted on 02/22/2014 9:58:12 AM PST by RedMDer
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To: SamAdams76

LOL. Yeah I’ve noticed the Putin bootlickers and toadies have been strangely quiet.

Maybe they’re worried that their dreams of one day sitting at Putin’s feet, kissing his hand while gazing adoringly into the eyes of their Master have been dashed.

Oh well.....folks like that yearn to be dominated. They’ll find another authoritarian leader they can cling to soon enough, I suppose. The world’s full of them.


72 posted on 02/22/2014 9:58:18 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: crosslink

While the pipelines are important to Putin, in an income-producing sort of way, the Uke is where most of the wheat comes from. Putin may grunt and push but not to the point where he can’t trade for Uke wheat. If he somehow screwed up the ability to get wheat from Ukraine and Belaruss his 175 mill remaining Ruskies would get to be hungry SOB’s.


73 posted on 02/22/2014 11:38:36 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Blackyce

Don’t see the paper roller and it doesn’t look heated? Sort of smacks of being ancient Roman. Poor uncivilized bastard probably brings in a basket of mullen leaves to tidy up with. I seem to remember Saddam never got the terlet idea quite right either. Something about being a dicktater that makes you unable to operate a flush toilet? Maybe it should be part of our own presidential primaries-—demonstrate ability to operate a flusher-—blindfolded?


74 posted on 02/22/2014 11:46:14 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

for none thing “Presidents” should not live in “Palaces”


75 posted on 02/22/2014 11:48:54 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: usual suspect
my wife is from Ukraine

Can she answer a question for me? I have curiosity about the Ukraine, as my grandmother left from a small town near Lvov in around 1905. They were devout Russian Orthodox, and were concerned about Catholicis spreading in from Poland.

What is the nature of the protestors who are taking control in western Europe? Are they religious fanatics? Nazi-types? Aligned with the globalist agenda? Nationalists?

Best wishes to your wife's friends and relatives still in the Ukraine.

76 posted on 02/22/2014 11:50:29 AM PST by grania
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To: hoagy62

While the Black Sea is not one of our primary patrols you should be aware that the Mt Whitney is there at the moment. That’s a big deal because it controls the entire 6th and 5th fleets, the Kenyan notwithstanding, if action needs to be taken the Mt Whitney will start it. You should also be aware that Carrier Bush left our East Coast last week and should be in the Med by now. Along with the two other carriers still on station in the 5 and 6 Vlad would have his hands full in the event he feels a moment of stupidity coming on.


77 posted on 02/22/2014 11:56:01 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Interpreter

London-based Herzen Foundation and the New York-based Institute of Modern Russia

Earlier today:

Excerpt:
This is not a coincidence. Yanukovych is reportedly in Kharkiv, a pro-Yanukovych stronghold (or it’s supposed to be), and he’s at a conference of the “Ukrainian Front,” a collection of politicians, and pro-government street thugs, who are willing to die for the President. But as a recent article by John Schindler, on The XX Committee, points out, the Ukranian Front appears to be deeply influenced and controlled by the Russian government. In fact, the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the Russian State Duma, Alexei Pushkov, is present in Kharkiv right now. Here’s what the report has to say about the nature of the Ukrainian Front:

It seems Moscow is not pleased with its protege Yanukovych and his inability to crush the opposition, so it is forming a new grouping to “assist” the hardliners. Given that the appearance of the Ukrainian Front has been heralded with a birth announcement in the Kremlin’s official newspaper, Russian approval and support can be assumed.

Moreover, the embrace of Stalinist-era rhetoric by the Ukrainian Front indicates a great deal, and will serve as a needless irritant towards Ukrainians who detest Stalin and his murderous legacy. In a similar vein, Communist activists have unveiled a bust of Stalin in Western Ukraine, a provocation that is about as offensive to most locals there as a statue of Hitler would be in the rest of Europe. Of course, hailing Stalin’s victories in the 1940′s is of a piece with the current Kremlin vilification campaign against all Ukrainians who do not want their country to be subjugated by Russia, a nasty agitprop line that regrettably has Western supporters, not all of them unwitting dupes.

Now that the Ukrainian Front has entered the picture, with Moscow’s imprimatur, expect the situation in Ukraine to only get worse. It would be difficult to overstate the danger Ukraine and Europe are in at the moment thanks to intimidation, meddling and provocation by Vladimir Putin’s Kremlin. European governments would be well advised to not permit naked Russian interference of a violent and coercive sort in Ukrainian politics: this cannot end well.


And now we have rallies in Sevastopol, where the Russian Black Fleet is anchored, in favor of reuniting with Russia (jump to update 1410).


78 posted on 02/22/2014 12:13:56 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Blackyce

Hey there’s Boxer Vitali Klitschko

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-klitschko-dwyre-20140222,0,4200061.column#axzz2u5IPould


79 posted on 02/22/2014 12:22:57 PM PST by Lent
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To: AnAmericanAbroad; SamAdams76

Putin’s western fans are remnants of associates of Mussolini’s supporters and others fooled by them.


80 posted on 02/22/2014 12:44:38 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: maggief

My pleasure , I am very curious to how Vlad will react. The eastern states will ask for his help as they are run by his puppets. What will restrain him?


81 posted on 02/22/2014 12:49:57 PM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: a fool in paradise

Chill people, Yanuk’s digs are nothing compared with Al Gore’s and John Edwards’ palaces!


82 posted on 02/22/2014 1:01:20 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: grania

From what I see, they are Nationalists. I have sorted through newsletters at the Ukranian Cultural Center from the 1930’s and the theme is the same, they do not like collectivism and Soviet rule. How many family members were lost during Holodomor. 600 people a day were coming to Kiev from Lviv in support and love of country. Ukranians are afraid of the police because of the corruption and the power they wield over the population. I was on a train coming out of Kiev and asked my wife what the boxcars with the hammers and sickles painted on the sides and the little barred windows were. She responded “prison train”


83 posted on 02/22/2014 1:51:00 PM PST by usual suspect
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To: Blackyce
I don't get the boat at all, it's in a small pond

or the zoo

Or whatever this is.
The regular size toilet is on the right side, this thing is on the same level (too low to be the sink). Toilet for the kids, to wash your shoes? - would appreciate anyone's help

More pics

But damn, I do like those rooms. Wood carved ceilings and all

84 posted on 02/22/2014 1:58:40 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: usual suspect

thank you


85 posted on 02/22/2014 2:51:55 PM PST by grania
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To: familyop

Thanks for the update.


86 posted on 02/22/2014 3:18:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: elhombrelibre

You don’t think EU globalists meddle in affairs like this?


87 posted on 02/22/2014 5:31:02 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: P-Marlowe

IB4TNCWW2SITP - In before the neocons who want to stick it to Putin.


88 posted on 02/22/2014 5:35:07 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: smokingfrog

Usually when one despotic government is replaced, the new one is more despotic than the former, viz Iran.


89 posted on 02/22/2014 5:48:05 PM PST by Finalmente
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To: SamAdams76

Why do they call those who violently took over a tyrannical government, “protestors”?


90 posted on 02/22/2014 8:30:44 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SamAdams76

Why do they call those who violently took over a tyrannical government, “protestors”?


91 posted on 02/22/2014 8:31:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What’s Ukrainian for “Ceausescu”?


92 posted on 02/22/2014 8:32:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: kristinn

The well connected wealthy in our own government are living at or near this level.


93 posted on 02/22/2014 8:43:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: kristinn

After looking at these images of his private Disneyland castle, no wonder this SOB fled the country...He’d would have ended up like Gaddafi did.


94 posted on 02/22/2014 8:47:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: usual suspect

Has O declared it demoncracy triumphant and given the rebels a blank check yet? Or is stupid foreign policy now John Kerry’s department?


95 posted on 02/22/2014 8:56:10 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: miliantnutcase

I think the Ukrainians know what’s best for themselves, and they want to get rid of Putin and his allies. If you think they should stay under Putin’s rule, then you’re for his imperialism.


96 posted on 02/22/2014 11:39:07 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free USA.)
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To: SamAdams76

I agree with you. There were so many dumb conservatives who thought just because Putin was exploiting and demagoguing the homosexual issue he was some type of born again conservative in favor of the rule of law, free elections, and limited government. The former KGB thug has merely been manufacturing support with new propaganda. He obviously couldn’t fool the Ukrainians.


97 posted on 02/22/2014 11:43:45 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free USA.)
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To: miliantnutcase

The neo-cons didn’t stick it to Putin. The Ukrainians did for their own reasons and legitimate grievances. Get over it.


98 posted on 02/22/2014 11:51:22 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre

I’m for neither side’s imperialism. I think we should just have an open mind when it comes to information being fed to us. I am not however, for balkanization of the Ukraine or Russia which could be next.


99 posted on 02/23/2014 6:31:59 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Does anyone know if the Ukraine has many more nukes left ? or did they turn their nukes over to Russia ?
Any possibility of a broken arrow nuke ?
100 posted on 02/23/2014 8:50:43 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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