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Leaders in east Ukraine vote to take control of their areas
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | February 22, 2014

Posted on 02/22/2014 7:43:34 AM PST by cunning_fish

KIEV (Reuters) - Leaders of mainly Russian-speaking regions of eastern Ukraine that are loyal to President Viktor Yanukovich challenged the legitimacy of the national parliament on Saturday and said they were taking control of their territories.

The move appeared to increase the possibility of a split in the sprawling former Soviet republic of 46 million, despite denials by the leaders that this was their intention.

The Kiev parliament has passed a series of measures that would reduce the president's powers and pave the way to the formation of a national unity government and early presidential elections.

Mikhaylo Dobkin, Governor of Kharkiv region in northeast Ukraine, told regional leaders meeting in the city: "We're not preparing to break up the country. We want to preserve it."

But a resolution adopted at the meeting said: "The decisions taken by the Ukrainian parliament in such circumstances cause doubts about their ... legitimacy and legality."

It added: "The central state organs are paralyzed. Until the constitutional order and lawfulness are restored ... we have decided to take responsibility for safeguarding the constitutional order, legality, citizens' rights and their security on our territories."

One speaker urged the creation of civilian patrols to restore order. Another said those gathered should fear reprisals if anti-Yanukovich protesters in Kiev seize power in the whole of the country.

With people at the meeting chanting "Russia! Russia!", the atmosphere contrasted with the mood in the capital Kiev where protesters want the Moscow-backed Yanukovich to resign.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putinsbuddys; russia; ukraine; ukrainecrisis; ukraineparliment; viktoryanukovich
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To: Captain Compassion

>>Two things have to happen before the tanks roll. The Olympics have to end and there has to be some threat, real or trumped up, against the gas pipelines that bring gas to western Europe from Russia that pass through the Ukraine.<<

Ukraine in Crisis: Gazprom Declares European Gas Exports ‘Pumped in Full’
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-crisis-gazprom-declares-european-gas-exports-39-085111943.html


21 posted on 02/22/2014 8:18:09 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Captain Compassion

>>Two things have to happen before the tanks roll. The Olympics have to end and there has to be some threat, real or trumped up, against the gas pipelines that bring gas to western Europe from Russia that pass through the Ukraine.<<

Ukraine in Crisis: Gazprom Declares European Gas Exports ‘Pumped in Full’
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-crisis-gazprom-declares-european-gas-exports-39-085111943.html


22 posted on 02/22/2014 8:18:29 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Viennacon

It’s spelled C-O-R-R-U-P-T E-L-E-C-T-I-O-N.

(Sorry...trying to be funny in a situation that certainly isn’t.)


23 posted on 02/22/2014 8:20:50 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Viennacon

>>If only 1/6 are ethnic Russians, how did Yanukovych win?<<

Another 2.5/6 Ukrainians are symphatizers.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 8:20:51 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: hoagy62

It’s possible, but then how can we explain the previous victory of a pro-European west leader?


25 posted on 02/22/2014 8:23:08 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Good question. Kinda scratching my head over that one myself.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 8:24:46 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Viennacon

>>It’s possible, but then how can we explain the previous victory of a pro-European west leader?<<

Pro-European sentiments has dominated at the time. The problem is that anti-Russian policies of that government has ruined Russian trade ties and affected economy really bad. It has shifted balance to a pro-Russian groups and led to Yanukovitz victory.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 8:32:20 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

The pipelines are not being cut yet.

CC


28 posted on 02/22/2014 8:36:01 AM PST by Captain Compassion
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To: kabar

So the course of history comes down to having a deep water port, yet once again.


29 posted on 02/22/2014 8:40:59 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Viennacon
If only 1/6 are ethnic Russians, how did Yanukovych win?

Only 13% of the population of the US is black. How did Obama win?

On February 14, Viktor Yanukovych, with 48.95% of the popular vote, was declared President-elect and winner of the 2010 Ukrainian Presidential election. Yulia Tymoshenko won 45.47% of the vote.

A joint poll conducted by Democratic Initiatives and Ukrainian Sociology Service of January 2010 showed that less than 5% of the polled believed that the presidential election would be fair with 41.4% of respondents that believed that the election results could be manipulated and 15.7% being certain that the entire vote would be rigged. According to the same poll 5.8% of those polled stated they were ready to sell their votes if the sum suited them and 1.9% of the respondents were ready to sell their votes for any presidential candidates and for any funds.

Since May 2010 a number of criminal cases have been brought against Yulia Tymoshenko. On June 24, 2011, a trial started in the “gas case,” concerning a contract with Russian gas company Gazprom to supply natural gas to Ukraine, which had been signed in 2009. Tymoshenko was charged with abuse of power and embezzlement, as the allegedly biased court found the deal anti-economic for the country and abusive. On 11 October 2011, a Ukrainian court sentenced Tymoshenko to seven years in prison after she was found guilty of all charges. Following the February 2014 Euromaidan riots, on 21 February 2014, Parliament voted for her release in a 310-54 veto-proof vote. On Saturday 22 February 2014 she was released. After her release Tymoshenko is now able to run for office, since she has no criminal record.

Tymoshenko was held in the Kharkiv-based Central Clinical Hospital No. 5 under police surveillance, where since May 2012 she had been receiving treatment after being diagnosed with a spinal disc herniation. Tymoshenko has been on three hunger strikes since her imprisonment.

The “gas case” trial was viewed by many international organizations, such as the Danish Helsinki Committee, as a politically-charged persecution that violates the law. The European Union and other international organizations see the conviction as "justice being applied selectively under political motivation." The European Union has shelved the European Union Association Agreement and Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Agreement with Ukraine over the issue. The EU has repeatedly called for release of Yulia Tymoshenko as a primary condition for signing the EU Association Agreement. The European Court on Human Rights stated in April 2013 that Tymoshenko’s arrest in the case had been politically motivated and her rights had been violated.

30 posted on 02/22/2014 8:45:52 AM PST by kabar
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To: don-o

Wonderful news.

http://apne.ws/1l8PLpk


31 posted on 02/22/2014 8:52:38 AM PST by rawhide
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To: smokingfrog
"How much is Putin paying them?"

He doesn't have to pay them. They have been Russian for several generations.

"Little Rus" has been the colloquial name of the country for 1000 years.

32 posted on 02/22/2014 8:52:42 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
"If they’re ethnic Russians they can go to hell."

They've been there 1000 years. They're not going anywhere.

33 posted on 02/22/2014 8:53:42 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Viennacon
"Why can’t our state legislatures ‘take control of their areas’ and tell Obama to take a running jump?"

And if millions of conservatives took over the National Mall and surrounded the White House what would Obama do? He would probably order the military to open fire, but the US needs to do something radical to rid itself of its Marxist government or to divide into too countries, also.

34 posted on 02/22/2014 8:55:28 AM PST by Truth29
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To: cunning_fish

You are 100% on, Vlad’s number one domestic asset is the gas, anything that puts that in jeopardy is worth tanks to him and his ruthless interior minister. Look at Syria , that was all about a new pipeline that would threaten the pipeline that runs thru Ukraine.

This has the potential of being a changing moment in Eurasia.


35 posted on 02/22/2014 8:57:35 AM PST by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: rawhide

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26302572


36 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:44 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: cunning_fish

Saw this coming.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 9:03:39 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: cunning_fish

It seems to be the case that no matter who they elect, nobody can bring prosperity to both portions of Ukraine, and tackle the systemic low-level corruption that keeps small rural communities poor.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 9:28:38 AM PST by Viennacon
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39 posted on 02/22/2014 9:47:10 AM PST by RedMDer
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To: DIRTYSECRET
If they’re ethnic Russians they can go to hell.

They're already there. Donetsk.

40 posted on 02/22/2014 10:05:47 AM PST by FreeReign
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