Skip to comments.Drought: Feds cut water to Central Valley farmers to zero [California Democrats don't give a dam]
Posted on 02/22/2014 10:36:24 AM PST by Jim Robinson
Central Valley farmers took a crippling blow Friday when U.S. officials made the unprecedented announcement that they would get no irrigation water from the federal government this year because of the drought.
But growers in a region with the country's most productive soil said the loss of one of their chief water supplies won't be their problem alone: Consumers will be hit hard in the form of higher prices at the produce market.
California's unusually dry weather is forcing producers of fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains to make tough decisions about which crops to plant, and which ones not to plant due to a lack of water, leaving harvests that are likely to fall short of demand.
A recent estimate by an industry group, the California Farm Water Coalition, suggested that as much as 600,000 acres of land, or about 8 percent of the state's total, could be left fallow in the coming year.
Jay Lund, who heads the Center for Watershed Sciences at UC Davis, said products from other parts of the world will fill some of the void, easing the impact on price.
"They'll go up a little bit," Lund said. "But I don't think it will be catastrophic. Time will tell."
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My son lives in the central valley. It’s bad. California needs to get its head out of their rear and do the right thing. Shutting down the valley’s agriculture for what, a fish? We’re not merely talking state’s rights here. We’re talking the survival of the source of 1/4 of America’s food. Idiots.
If the farmers go bankrupt, what are the Liberals going to eat?
So ... everybody’s gonn’a talk and analyze this ... right ?
Desalinization of sea-water is the logical solution to the situation in California, but the communists, er... environmentalists, will not allow it.
If our nation truly wanted a green revolution we would proceed full speed ahead on the new generation of nuclear energy and this would make desalinization affordable. It would also create hundreds of thousands of new jobs with the cheap energy that is the lifeblood of tomorrow’s manufacturing.
Win - win for everyone but the communists.
Hopefully, God will help us.
Rain Finally Back in the Forecast for California
AccuWeather ^ | February 22, 2014 | By Kristina Pydynowski
by Brad from Tennessee
The second half of the upcoming week will feature soaking rain and mountain snow returning to drought-stricken California.
Confidence is growing for California to receive a substantial amount of rain and mountain snow from two storm systems later next week.
The first system is scheduled to move through California Wednesday through Thursday with the second to follow for Friday through the first part of the next weekend.
The second is likely to be the stronger and wetter of the two systems, bringing a much-needed soaking to many communities (with the deserts being the exception).
If the first storm bypasses or only grazes Southern California, the second will not. It is possible that Downtown Los Angeles receives at least half of the rain that fell in all of 2013 (3.60 inches) from this one storm Friday through next week.
Several inches of rain could soak the northern California coast, while feet of snow may blanket the Sierra. Snow levels could drop low enough to whiten the mountains of Southern California. . .
it will be catastrophic for our farmers and the workers....to hell with this getting produce from other countries...I want American grown fruits and vegetables to choose from...
Looks like they’re planning on eating imported produce from Mexico.
Be real the liberals don't care about some damn fish. All they are worried about is filling up their swimming pools.
The owners of central valley farms wouldn’t happen to mostly lean toward one political party by any chance, would they?
Mother Gaia will take care of its children. She will provide organic manna for them.
I know ..
Lets float some more water bond initiatives and see if they hold water now.
Oh wait.. Dams and reservoirs are evil, they disrupt the naaaatural environment & kill people when they burst,, like we will likely ever see another full one in our lifetimes anyway at this rate and early stage of a long term drought.. all caused by Global warming and cow farts and man.
It takes a spillage
To wreck a village
Shutting off the farmer's water makes sense too, if you are trying to kill them off.
If the farmers go bankrupt, what are the Liberals going to eat?
Kangaroo rats, red legged frogs, spotted owls, bald eagles, blue herons, snail darters, illegals er soylent green and of course the Delta Smelt.
Water Supplies Curtailed Once Again to Protect Delta Smelt ... http://www.acwa.com/news/delta/water-supplies-curtailed-once-again-protect-delta-smelt - 40k - Cached - Similar pages Feb 12, 2013 ... Pumping restrictions aimed at protecting Delta smelt have reduced deliveries ...
How about a nice chat over a lunch of Drake’s Bay oysters and long fin smelt, some pale ale and Nancy Pelosi whine, special reserve..
We know liebrals will riot over almost everything else.
Why the silence now?
A food shortage that they are creating will have people begging for help.
They have control of our finances, our health, our energy, and now our food.
Are the dots starting to connect?
This comes only a week after that loser waltzed in to town, with Feinstein and boxer. How stupid do they think we are.
Guess they get what they voted for.
I hope fruit and produce goes sky high. Nationwide.
Let them see what the Dems are doing to them.
My wife asked why south of Sacramento on 99 or I5 the land looked like a desert.
My answer was, the counties down 101 are blue counties and apparently get all of the water they need and don't have worry about a red legged frog or a delta smelt, unlike the farmers/ranchers in the dry Red Counties.
cui bono? is Latin for "who benefits?" It is the single most important question to ask when evaluating any (usually political or criminal) 'maneouver'.
The: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?""Who watches the watchmen?" In this case, the Bureau of Reclamation which controls the water in the State of California.
Suddenly, true organic farming rears it’s ugly head.
Mooch will figure something out.
Ya know, up until the 1980’s, a government entity making such a unilateral move against the population would be tantamount to an act of war. Yes, even in the good old USA.
In the 90’s, and even into the first decade, there would be massive protests, which itself could force political change.
I know this. Mr. Head knows this. We’ve seen it all before.
This is for those in the affected areas who think a nice, hand - written letter to your Congress person or whining on this forum can change course.
This move in California ‘ s Central Valley places thousands on American lives at stake. This is not a dem vs gop thing. It’s a matter of a good 20% of America’s food production. It’s a matter of survival. Those that have rights to the water in the valley should not allow under any circumstances their natural resources to be stolen.
Where’s the revolution?
The highways to San Fran are vital to it’s existence
Last year I started learning to grow food plants from seed and hope this spring, summer, and fall, I will grow my own veggies. I'm well on the way to having my spring veggies in their final containers to produce food.
I didn't know this was going to happen to California, so now I'm glad I started learning to grow my own. My veggies won't come from Mexico or some other country and there won't be any chemicals on my plants and no hands will have touched them but me. I have a small backyard but it's going to produce food with plants in containers.
Learn to grow your own veggies and piss off Hussein Obama and his corrupted Democrats.
“Filling their swimming pools”
I do not live in California, so I can’t claim any knowledge of the situation there-but while we don’t have many “save the purple trashminnow-that-no-one-eats” people here, we do have the city people who insist on filling their pools, pouring enough water every week on commercial and residential lots planted with everything native to the Florida Keys to keep 4 families of 6 in showers and drinking water for three months, and they don’t care if farmers don’t have any water as long as they do-are there a lot of these people in California, too?
The Boy Scouts taught me how me how to desalinize water with a few sticks, a couple pots & some tin foil. That wouldn’t work on the scale they need but it would (should) still be pretty easy. Of course being Cali., with all their regulations & unions, it would end up costing MUCH more that it should. Still, a couple wind turbines, a few solar panels, an electric coil, 2 collection tanks & a pipeline leading to the lakes they want to fill are really all that’s required for one plant. Streisand could fund it all with her takings from one concert.
It’s time for a Tea Party.
They are changing diapers in the Ukraine, perhaps its time to change some diapers here.
I bet there are democrats buying up the land cheap after cutting off the water and forcing the owners to sell.
Can you say, ‘Collective Farming’? I thought you could. The increasing pressure on those who ‘produce’ continues. The ‘Progressives’ are on track with Health Care, energy is on the agenda, Food comes next.
After all, ‘they’ didn’t build it. They Shoulda known their ground depended on the kindness of the government.
I expect desalinization is farther out than the Columbia River pipeline. For a couple decades now Kalifornia has drooled over the prospect of running a 24 foot diameter pipeline from the mouth of the Columbia, down the coast range, to the central valley. Taken from near the mouth , the Columbia would never miss it, moving the sea water about 6 inches farther inland. If it helps keep Kalifornians in California I’m all for it. They’ve been quiet about the idea for a few years but this dry time might very well fire up the conversation again and it seems like the kind of “shovel ready” job the Kenyan would love? And as with Patton crossing the Rhine it would give me new enthusiasm for piddling in the river.
The irrigation canals from Grand Coulee Dam have been a huge economic blessing and like you said, the river does not miss the small amount of water that is diverted.
A pipeline from the Columbia makes too much sense. There are lots of major infrastructure projects that would greatly benefit our nation, but the threat of litigation and special interests make them nothing more than pipe dreams. Pun intended.
Desalinization plants with pipelines on the coast of California would be more than adequate and cost-effective if we removed the obstacles. All that is required is cheap electricity that could be provided by new nuclear technology and a willingness to allow it all to happen.
If California could provide it’s own affordable electricity it would also lower the electricity costs of it’s neighbors benefitting the region.
The irony is that one of the main arguments against water development is protecting plant and animal life when they would flourish just as much as we would. The animal/plant life in the Columbia Basin greatly benefits from the irrigation projects.
Oh yes they do, they want the land for their buddies in the development business and those buying ag land abroad. They want the Central Valley out of business. They don't want America to be self-sustaining in food production. I saw this coming nearly five years ago.
The key fact is that water is more valuable for development than it is for agriculture. As long as that is true the crooks in the "investment" business are going to tweak things against farming. They're "investing" in farming overseas in "places more appropriate for farming (see "comparative advantage" and "free trade"). So they get the trade agreements they want, push those annoying owners off their land, so that they come running to cities, including here, looking to be the customer base for their housing. That they'll subsidize exactly the same way they are doing now using your tax dollars to feed, clothe, educate, and medicate their brainwashed children up to speed, you know, until things are "fair." They'll make better slaves because they already know the score. Americans are too deluded with relic ideas of "freedom" to be quite as useful.
You really didn't think that Democrats like Pat and Jerry were going to let the "wrong people" make money did you? They got the farmers to pony up the cash for the construction of this massive investment subsidy (the California Water Project), by teasing them into salivating at a profit in real estate. They got the farmers to pay for the infrastructure and let them hold the bag until the big boys saw the right time. They had to wait until they were finished building out the desert anyway. The recession plus the idiot voters wishing up a passenger train boondoggle presents exactly such an opportunity.
Smelt, smelt, oh no, the smelt are dying... uh, the farmers are still hanging on... Oh steelhead, salmon, oh the humanity!!! (they're more photogenic anyway.) So it goes. I'll bet whoever wrote that biological opinion will end up running a lab.
29 posted on 06/09/2009 7:27:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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The biggest developer of Sustainable Development "stack and pack" housing is Catellus Development, aka ChiFi's husband Richard Blum. The biggest stockholder in Catellus is CalPERS. The left is leveraging public pension money to build prison-cities, with the bureaucrats enforcing the means to force people out of suburbs having their pensions tied to the success of that effort, else the taxpayers have to pony up to pay for said inflated pensions.
Quite the deal.
As produce production goes down, and prices rise, I think red area farmers should sell their produce to blue counties for a much higher price (all across the nation), to subsidize being able to keep the prices stable for red counties and states. Reward those who vote sanely, and penalize the tyrants.
Who cares if blue country liberals think it’s unfair? They are being their typical dictatorial selves and once again ruining an American industry. It’s time that for once THEY pay the price for what they are doing to everyone else.
Do you have links/posts/etc that you could collate into a resource? Your hypothesis sounds tyrannical and draconian... and all too likely, given the fascist tendencies of the American Left.
When I was living in kalifonia I remember some idiot from the heartland who came to san fransicko just to visit the sierra club headquarters. He expected to see a bunch of euel gibbons types. Instead he found three martini lunch sipping suits who were running a scam. They were inventing environmental causes just to keep the suckers sending money.
I think that's what this is. Just an ongoing scam.
Truly, if I wanted to make a million dollars, I'd start some leftwing cause. Those idiots are too stupid to think for themselves. They'd send money regardless.
The basic understanding came from research done for my book, Natural Process: That Environmental Laws May Serve the Laws of Nature. A lot of the data about CalPERS and Catellus came from a book by disaffected leftist reporter, Richard Trainor: Paradise Lost? The rest was obvious. I have a lot more on such machinations and (more importantly) how they were integrated into our laws from the beginning here.
Lived SO CAl, it rains usually in March and NOV! March can be a wash out so hang on So Cal it’s on it’s way!
He who controls the water controls everything.
Self correction..."Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown"
Central Valley farmers are supporters of many Republicans and this is pay back time by Obamma the Great
I don't want to burst any ones bubble but there is not enough water to go around this year. I'm in far northern cali. The snow pack isn't, the lakes are almost dry, and it is not raining and snowing enough to even slow down the water decline.
What I'm really trying to point out is that the cities in Cali will suck up the water for their green grass and swimming pools. We need the water for the orchards and crops. The row crops in the central valley just won't get planted this year. No profit but the ground will still be there next year. It is the orchards that are in danger. If we do not water the trees and they die it will take more than a decade to replant and regrow trees to production.
The buttheads in the cities don't care. They just want green grass and full swimming pools. I'm all for making them pay 5X for food and selling them water by the drop.
This is not good news.
My sister and her family live in Dos Palos. My brother-in-law does a lot of work in the ag business. They told me things were dry out there and it looked like business was going to slow down. This can not help!
What? Farmers? What do they have to do with food supplies?
Good for you. News like this will not have an impact on you and should not impact your life.
Prepare to survive and survive to prepare....
I drove over the Sierra Nevada range yesterday on I-80, and it was kind of strange. There was less snow on the ground than you would see in late spring, and it’s still only February.
The parking lot at Boreal Ridge was full, though. It was probably pretty nice playing on the slopes in 55 degree weather.
“It’s China town”—
“He who controls the water controls everything.”
Lately, I have been referring a lot of people to that movie. It is amazing how many have seen it and forget about the water and its control, or ignored that reality of living in California.
Yet, in Southern California, while we're being asked to conserve water and are under threat of rationing, LARGE apartment/condos continue to be built everywhere displacing single family homes. Don't all of those massive new building require water??