Skip to comments.Republican firing squad: Shooting conservatives, not defeating liberals
Posted on 02/22/2014 1:39:31 PM PST by onyx
WASHINGTON, February 21, 2014
Hang around Republican circles long enough and you will hear, We have got to stop these circular firing squads. The logic is simple; Republicans are killing themselves with internecine wars instead of going out and defeating liberals.
It is a great theory. Perhaps the best word for it is theory. As conservatives are discovering, though, what Republicans who complain about the circular firing squad really want is a semi-circular firing squad. These voices in the Republican Party want conservatives to stop shooting at them, while they try to take out insurgent conservatives.
Texas Senator Ted Cruz is probably the poster child for the semi-circular firing squad right now. Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the left do not have to lift a finger to go after him. The Republicans are doing it for them.
Steve LaTourette is allegedly a Republican. He is a former representative from Ohio and his primary claim to fame is serving for eighteen years in Congress without any major accomplishments. He founded the badly misnamed Defending Main Street PAC after he retired from Congress to become a lobbyist. Defending Main Street PAC is allegedly a Republican PAC, but its mission is not to defeat Democrats; it is to stop the influence of the Tea Party. LaTourettes PAC is mostly funded by big Wall Street firms and left wing unions.
And LaTourette has made it his mission to go after Ted Cruz. He was recently on MSNBC in full semi-circular firing squad mode. He claimed it was reprehensible that Ted Cruz forced Republicans to live up to what they claim to believe and said that Ted Cruz should be forced out of the GOP.
Famed Conservative William F. Buckley founded the National Review. Today that once conservative standard-bearer is little more than a mouthpiece for the Republican Establishment. Mona Charen, a National Review writer, this week went on the attack against Cruz: Cruz Aims at His Own Side Again. He may be doing more damage to the GOP than are the Democrats.
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It’s called cleaning your own house first.
It was NOT circular.
Romney attacked everyone including Sen. Thompson.
Then Romney attacked everyone, ending with Gov. Palin’s
children through surrogates (Rove et al)
Then Romney attacked every candidate from the Speaker on
Then Romney defended Obama (except for a few minutes
in one debate) ... and gave up.
Then Romney and his Rove surrogates began attacking
the Tea Party for Obama and Romney’s partner Soros.
i had to go to the internet archive to look up this romney guy
Conservatives are still focused on stopping liberals. A lot of those liberals are in the GOP.
Dems have always taken care of their base. When will the GOP learn this?
The GOP-e that do not reverse their leftward movement and come back to the right have to be dumped as soon as possible. They’re scared to death of Ted Cruz and tea party members for exposing their collaboration with democRats.
Go Ted Cruz!
Democrats are not communists (even Howard Stern sees that).
RINOs are yesterday’s democrats who despise conservatives, the religious right and those sympathetic to the tea party. It’s Ted Cruz or bust for many of the rest of us. No one at my home will ever vote for RINOs who have repeatedly proven they are the see-no-evil, hear-no-evil, say-no-evil political party that doesn’t deserve a dime of anyone’s donation $$$ let alone vote for them.
I wish the GOP WOULD kick Cruz out. They don’t have the guts. But if they did, it would be the official end of the party and they know it. Come on, cowards! Kick Cruz out of you elitist party!
Absolutely agree for most of them and then there’s a few like McLame and Linda, the in-your-face collaborators that dare the voters to oust them. Looks like Linda may be taking a hike.
Be a conservative, run as a conservative, win as a conservative, govern as a conservative.
Anyone who hasn’t met that criteria is fair game for shootin’ at!
As it stands now, this broken and dysfunctional party has no hope of winning the Presidency. Establishment types are far more interested in destroying conservatives than defeating democrats.
What conservatives need to do is lay down an ultimatum..
“Either you move to the political right and redirect your fire at the left side of the aisle, or plan to be in a permanent minority status, because we are forming a new party.”
I asked my cousin who lives in Phoenix why they kept mclame and he told me he wasn’t as bad as the people running against him. Now that is sad. But probably an accurate assessment we all face.
I wish the GOP- E good luck. They left me. Adios firing squad
What RINOs really bask in ...
The GOPelite and many of the Congresscritters who are members of the GOPelite have become too comfortable.
They don’t mind losing the presidential elections. They don’t mind losing majority status in the House or Senate. They still get their turn at the money troughs. They still have their prestige and power and influence and the under-the-table ‘grants’ from lobbyists.
Some of them are so ‘comfortable’ that they gave up residences in the states they represent because it was too much of a hassle to maintain those residences. All they need is an address to use and many of their back-home cronies are more than happy to provide them a lounge chair or mailing address. That allows them to put their money toward their homesteads close to the seat of power — DC.
It is the conservatives, the newcomers, the Tea Party who are rattling the cages and making waves. The GOPelites see them as upsetting an acceptible apple-cart status quo. The GOPelites see as their enemy and competition those conservatives, not their friends from across the aisle. That is why they attack ‘their own’ because ‘their own’ really are not part of the exclusive club, and they don’t want to give up their own membership.
Agreed. It is impractical -- if not impossible -- to defeat the enemy (in this case, the Democrat Socialists who want to "fundamentally transform America") when you are being attacked viciously by members of your own caucus.
A thorough, no-holds-barred cleaning up of our own party is essential before we can even have a chance of defeating the formidable bloc of power consisting of the Democrat Socialist Party, the MSM, most of academia, and over 50 percent -- the growing non-tax paying portion -- of the American people.
Mitch McConnell is using his position and power to go after any GOP candidate who takes money from TEA Party groups he hates.
Romney attacked everyone including Sen. Thompson.
In 2008 Romney managed to keep some Conservatives from even participate in GOP debates..
Duncan Hunter was locked out a couple of times and Ron Paul was too..
Both exposed Willard as the liberal he really is..
At an early debate when Congressman Hunter mentioned the Kennedy wing of the republican Party, he was not just talking about McCain..he was also including Romney from MASS, a a good buddy of Ted Kennedy...
Willard was gunning for Congressman Hunter and the other Conservatives who refused to sell out..
It’s warm, and going to get a whole lot warmer in the next year, yes. The GOPe is not going to go quietly into the good night.
The big problem with these old Bulls is the same problem Obama has and practically all Democrats...The United States Constitution. Precious few of We The People's elected help solve the nation's problems...they just help themselves...get re-elected.
Conservatives do this. Just hang around here during the GOP primaries and watch us destroy the more conservative candidates while the establishment moderate pulls ahead of them all. It’s a bloodbath. It’s not enough to support your candidate - we have to destroy the other conservatives. I don’t think conservatives rally around the next guy like the left does either.
This is guesswork, but at the outset let’s assume there are 6 viable candidates and 4 of them are conservative. Not one conservative will hold more than 20% support while one of the two moderates will never fall below 30-40% support. The other moderate is normally a throw-away and any support he has always goes to the other moderate when he/she drops out. This is not always true for supporters of a conservative. The math is hard to beat - especially when you watch the conservatives attack one another while milquetoast stays above the fray with the support of the MSM.
My numbers are pure guesses based on past performances, but this reflects the reality of the McCain and Romney nominations. We will likely see it again because the left supports it wholeheartedly.
The GOP base is about ready to start their own party
That we must do that is a sobering reality.
well, when the rinos and gop-ers and liberal plants surrender, we’ll be done.
I wish the RINOs would leave the Republican party and join the Democratic party and moderate them. I’ve had enough moderation on the right, I want the same amount of ideological purity as the Democrats have demanded of their party since Klinton.
Never forget why the RINOs are in the game. They have acquired very nice sinecures, and are not about to put them at risk by having to start seniority over again in a new party.
But I’m with you, I wish they’d go. The alternative is, we have to go. It occurred to me a couple years back that, in reality, it is we who are the RINOs.
The 2012 Republican debates were a complete fiasco. As one candidate diminished, another took his place — until that one got drummed out.
None of them were what would be considered top quality.
At various points, about 6 different individuals were considered the ‘frontrunner’ for a few weeks, at most. It was a disastrous lineup from the start and it finished with Romney.
2008 wasn’t much better with McCain.
Half of those claiming to be conservatives in 2012 were far from it, in reality.
Maybe, the new primaries schedule will improve things.
In 2008 and 2012, my state primary was so late in the spring that it didn’t matter who we supported. The nominee was already determined weeks before.
No argument from me - the compassionate conservatism branch is quite fixed among “conservative” leaders. However, the argument that a candidate who is somewhat or even mostly conservative is better than the alternative did not carry much water around here.
Too many seek perfection and it’s not going to happen. It depresses me to say this, but a truly conservative President would likely be a one term proposition in today’s climate because America has lost it’s willingness to buckle down and do the right thing. There are too many fingers in the pie that need to be removed gradually and it’s unlikely to happen. We can’t even get the GOP-held house to cut entitlements. Too many people are afraid of the repercussions even as they acknowledge we must cut spending to survive.
It's quite sad to watch it die this slow, pathetic death.
The GOP base is about ready to start their own party.
Yes, the Tea Party.
We all agree that the primary schedule favors the RINO establishment candidates. Having more conservative states that a GOP nominee will win vote when it matters would be a recipe for success.
With that said, Reagan would get nuked on FR today over immigration, his former DNC membership, and many of his decisions as governor of California. That is a fact few acknowledge.
It gets harder each cycle. Conservatives have fractured over numerous issues while the left strengthens their odd coalition.
The big money, lobbyists, business elite and so on are more important to the GOP politicians than the grassroots people and their principles.
When an individual is deep in credit card debt, they need to stop using the card and pay off the debt.
Boehner, McConnell and Cornyn with their recent votes on the debt ceiling just decided that their answer was to increase the credit card limit.
TEA Party, Freedom party or whatever its called. I’ll be there
NO $$$$$$$ ever again to any RINO or GOP-e. Never.
Yep, Gotta Protect Big Government! It’s Their Job!
To put an analogy to this (from Star Wars) I guess the GOPe want to carry out “Order 66”.
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Posted on 2/22/2014 5:04:12 PM by onyx
I made that decision almost exactly four years prior. I temporarily reconsidered when I got Sarah Palin to vote for. I'd consider it again if she ran for Preezy. She's a good 'un.
“Hang around Republican circles long enough and you will hear, We have got to stop these circular firing squads.
Forget firing squads. I’d be happy as a clam to see four conservatives show up at our county board meeting. Conservatives are the most apathetic, useless, Mammon-worshipping morons that I’ve ever met.
This is true.... once a ‘darling ‘ , I was ‘executed’ by the Hawaii Republican Party . Crime ? Becoming a Tea Party activist ( read : bomb thrower ). Orders from ? Karl Rove ( & minions ) true story.... So where to call ‘ home’ now?
John McCain has never hesitated to attack a conservative, and never failed to be polite to a liberal. So...why would attacking John McCain be bad?
Like the author says, this complaining is only meant to stop conservatives. Here in Arizona, I’ve watched the GOP-E campaign against conservatives in the primary, and then withhold funding when the conservative WON the primary. Consider the actions of Jim “I’m a Homo” Kolbe, who made it clear he preferred Gabby Giffords to a conservative Republican.
It seems the GOP is more aggressive in attacking conservatives than in attacking Democrats, and then it demands loyalty from the conservatives. Well, this conservative stuck with McCain and McFlake for US Senators feels no obligation to do anything other than piss in the direction of our two liberal-loving senators...and their GOP-E friends!
I’ve commented at Townhall and others where Sowell and Charen have posted articles. I commented that we conservatives actually LIKE Ted Cruz and appreciate the fact that SOMEONE is not afraid to stand on principles, even in a losing cause. I’m sick of Rand Paul talking one thing, then voting another with the excuse, “well, it was going to pass (or fail) anyway”, so I didn’t waste my vote sort of excuse. Sorry, but principles are just that. You live and die by them. They ARE the “hill” you are willing to die on. We KNOW that with a compromised House and not having a majority int he Senate, we’ll not win many things right now, but you STAND, anyway! We know where Ted stands. We know where MANY of the others stand, too, and we’re not happy with them. But then, that’s their problem with him, really! He is showing the world who the real republicans are and it’s not pretty! Go, TED!