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Tom DeLay: God 'wrote the Constitution'
San Antonio Express-News ^ | February 21, 2014 | Kolten Parker

Posted on 02/22/2014 2:11:50 PM PST by EveningStar

SAN ANTONIO — God must have had one heck of a powdered wig, or former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay would have made a lousy history teacher.

The Sugar Land Republican made news this week when he voiced his concern that the government is becoming secular because "we stopped realizing that God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution, that it's based on biblical principles" during a recent television appearance with San Antonio Pastor Matt Hagee.

James Madison, the lead author of the United States Constitution and the fourth president of the United States who died in 1836, could not be reached for comment.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: constitution; god; matthagee; tomdelay
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1 posted on 02/22/2014 2:11:50 PM PST by EveningStar
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I think we got off the track when we allowed our government to become a secular government. When we stopped realizing that God created this nation, that he wrote the Constitution, that it's based on biblical principles.

2 posted on 02/22/2014 2:16:02 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.
-- Alexander Hamilton

3 posted on 02/22/2014 2:16:05 PM PST by jdege
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To: All

BTW, that quote is from Tom DeLay.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 2:17:10 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Yah .... so ?

Not too many Christians would disagree with that basic premise

5 posted on 02/22/2014 2:18:27 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: jdege

Does Hamilton think that God wrote the Constitution?


6 posted on 02/22/2014 2:18:42 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: knarf
Not too many Christians would disagree with that basic premise

As far as I know, the only published material with God as the Primary Author is the Holy Scripture, which hasn't been added to since the death of the last Apostle.
7 posted on 02/22/2014 2:20:51 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: knarf

yah so all those Christians are still sitting on their hands


8 posted on 02/22/2014 2:23:09 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: knarf

Do you think Madison and the others were really channeling God when they wrote the Constitution?


9 posted on 02/22/2014 2:25:34 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Ring, Ring.

"Hello?"
"Hello. Yes. This is the Long Distance Operator. The 80s called. The want their Texas 22nd congressional district Representative back."

10 posted on 02/22/2014 2:25:41 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: EveningStar

God DID write the Constitution. He had a pen in one hand and a BAR in the other.


11 posted on 02/22/2014 2:30:17 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Dr. Sivana
As far as I know, the only published material with God as the Primary Author is the Holy Scripture, which hasn't been added to since the death of the last Apostle.

You're making a straw man argument. The core principles enshrined in the founding documents of this country originate from the concept of Natural Law, which is written by God in the hearts of all men.

12 posted on 02/22/2014 2:36:34 PM PST by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: EveningStar

Do you care?


13 posted on 02/22/2014 2:39:34 PM PST by Jacquerie ( Obama has established executive branch precedents that no election can reverse. Article V.)
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To: EveningStar

Which God did that? Humans have invented thousands of Gods.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 2:40:52 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: EveningStar

I believe God directed the authors of our Constitution and Declaration of Independence.


15 posted on 02/22/2014 2:41:09 PM PST by originalbuckeye ("A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue;)
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To: originalbuckeye

I do also.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 2:42:38 PM PST by sport
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To: bigheadfred

If God doesn’t exist, then he couldn’t have written the Constitution.

But if God does exist, he favors that which is good.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 2:47:27 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: EveningStar

If God doesn’t exist, then he couldn’t have written the Constitution.

But if God does exist, he favors that which is good.


18 posted on 02/22/2014 2:48:16 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: EveningStar
Do you think Madison and the others were really channeling God when they wrote the Constitution?

The DOI openly states rights are endowed by the creator. Many Founders, including James Wilson and Joseph Story, openly stated Christianity was a basis for the law.

So, yes, I think the Founders were thinking about God and the Bible when they wrote the Constitution. It is fair to say God inspired the constitution.

19 posted on 02/22/2014 2:50:27 PM PST by Kazan
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To: elkfersupper
Which God did that?

The real one -- the God the Bible, who the Founders repeatedly referenced.

20 posted on 02/22/2014 2:51:53 PM PST by Kazan
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To: elkfersupper

you forgot to correct for windage


21 posted on 02/22/2014 2:54:59 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Kazan
The real one -- the God the Bible, who the Founders repeatedly referenced.

There are thousands. How can we mere mortals know which one is "the real one"?

22 posted on 02/22/2014 2:58:17 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: EveningStar
Kolten Parker is too cute by half: Anyone with half a brain would know DeLay meant that God guided those who physically wrote the Constitution, but then Parker wouldn't be able to put down DeLay while making what he thinks is a witty comment.

A liberal is stupid enough to look at his navel and say, "Hey, look! I found something!"

23 posted on 02/22/2014 2:59:55 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: EveningStar

“Do you think Madison and the others were really channeling God when they wrote the Constitution?”

I think DeLay was speaking metaphorically. Consider that the constitution was written by a bunch of fairly young (with a few exceptions) highly educated men of privilege. What were the odds that they would create such a document? And, George Washingtion, who would be King, but declined. What were the odds of that? And, consider the events, wars and battles that could have gone the wrong way, but did not. What were the odds of these? Personally, I do believe there is something to the notion that God has had his hand on the tiller in behalf of this country.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 3:03:41 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: elkfersupper

seriesly


25 posted on 02/22/2014 3:04:19 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: elkfersupper
There are thousands. How can we mere mortals know which one is "the real one"


26 posted on 02/22/2014 3:07:58 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: jeffc

Right.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 3:10:07 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: elkfersupper

Only one has been affirmed by Christ.


28 posted on 02/22/2014 3:17:37 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: originalbuckeye
My Grandfather believed the Constitution was Divinely inspired, he wasn't wrong on to many things.
29 posted on 02/22/2014 3:20:55 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: EveningStar
People didn't "channel" anything or anyone in those days ... in fact, the whole idea of manipulating or being manipulated by an outside source is relatively new

People (imo) up until the end of WW2 pretty much formed opinions about things based on what they heard, read, saw etc.

The founders and writers of our early documents were learned men ... scholars in many fields and they all had a more than working knowledge of the Bible

If I decide sin is an affront to God and decide not to sin, am I channeling the Holy Ghost ?

30 posted on 02/22/2014 3:27:59 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: elkfersupper
Stop asking stupid, provocative questions ... do you believe in God?

Which one ?

Why ?

31 posted on 02/22/2014 3:31:07 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Little Bill

I agree with your grandfather.


32 posted on 02/22/2014 3:41:52 PM PST by FES0844
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To: elkfersupper

Indeed we have. Having said that, God is not invented. He invented us. Big difference.


33 posted on 02/22/2014 4:00:31 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: elkfersupper

There are not thousands in the Bible. There is but one.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 4:01:25 PM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: elkfersupper
How can we mere mortals know which one is "the real one"?

Definitely sounds like a question a liberal would ask...But, this nation was founded upon the God of the Bible and its principles and is one of the greatest in history. That is evidence our founders based the nation on the one, true God.

Or would you prefer the Hindu god and to drink cow urine and smear cow dung on your head or the Muslims god and the mass genocide and tyranny that occurs in Muslim nations?

35 posted on 02/22/2014 4:17:02 PM PST by Kazan
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To: EveningStar; All

Whatever anyone has to say about the guy. Here is a least one “establishment Republican” who knows that this is an issue and isn’t afraid to broach it.

The facts are in their 2012 convention the Democoms voted to remove any reference to God and when they found it would-n’t look good it was shoved back in their platform just like Obamacare. They booed the chair’s decision for ram-rodding the resolution back in.

But never fear AHs like Rove,Preibus, and the rest of the GOPES running the 2012 show as well as now never brought it up they were too busy looking for the demographics. They’re not smart enough to connect that position to the 10 commandments and why democrats (in name only) are such liars.


36 posted on 02/22/2014 4:17:23 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: jeffc
Kolten Parker is too cute by half

This is being reported by quite a few sources, and this article is mild compared to some others. Example.

37 posted on 02/22/2014 4:22:47 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Does Hamilton think that God wrote the Constitution?

He seemed to make it fairly clear that He had, at least, inspired it.

The fundamental source of all your errors, sophisms and false reasoning is a total ignorance of the natural rights of mankind. Were you once to become acquainted with these, you could never entertain a thought, that all men are not, by nature, entitled to a parity of privileges. You would be convinced, that natural liberty is a gift of the beneficent Creator to the whole human race, and that civil liberty is founded in that; and cannot be wrested from any people, without the most manifest violation of justice.
Alexander Hamilton The Farmer Refuted

38 posted on 02/22/2014 4:46:51 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: EveningStar

Our Constitution might not have been written by God, but it was inspired by God.

John Adams— Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.


39 posted on 02/22/2014 5:05:29 PM PST by V K Lee
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To: elkfersupper

1.Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,


40 posted on 02/22/2014 5:15:10 PM PST by swampfox101 (l)
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To: EveningStar

It seems to me that if God had written it, then it wouldn’t have needed to be amended 27 times.


41 posted on 02/22/2014 5:46:42 PM PST by oincobx
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To: Little Bill

Your grandfather is correct.


42 posted on 02/22/2014 7:31:55 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: EveningStar
Do you think Madison and the others were really channeling God when they wrote the Constitution?

They were basing it on Christian concepts that are laid out in the Bible - they wrote it as (mainly) men of faith. Being inspired by Christianity and being divinely inspired are different things.

Of course, you probably know that and were just funnin' and trying to get under some Christians collars with a outre' comment that might be used as a sneaky way of saying that believers are idiots.

43 posted on 02/23/2014 4:42:44 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Little Bill
My Grandfather believed the Constitution was Divinely inspired, he wasn't wrong on to many things.

Apparently, he didn't "learn" you on how to spell "too".

44 posted on 02/23/2014 3:28:12 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
Apparently, he didn't "learn" you on how to spell "too".

Apparently, no one taught you intelligence, or irony either....

45 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:31 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: Viennacon
Only one has been affirmed by Christ.

Okay, which one was that, who is Christ and what does he or she have to do with affirming the "God"?

46 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: knarf
Stop asking stupid, provocative questions ... do you believe in God?

No.

Which one ?

None of them

Why ?

Because all of them are constructs of humans who found it necessary to somehow explain a reason for their existence.

47 posted on 02/23/2014 3:41:06 PM PST by elkfersupper
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Or would you prefer the Hindu god and to drink cow urine and smear cow dung on your head or the Muslims god and the mass genocide and tyranny that occurs in Muslim nations?

None of the above. I would consider the whole concept ludicrous.

Read "Gulliver's Travels" and get back to me.

48 posted on 02/23/2014 3:48:50 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: RoadGumby
There are not thousands in the Bible. There is but one

In case you haven't noticed, the Bible is mostly hearsay - second hand reports with no corroboration.

49 posted on 02/23/2014 3:52:33 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: RoadGumby
God is not invented. He invented us. Big difference

There is no evidence of that.

50 posted on 02/23/2014 3:54:23 PM PST by elkfersupper
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