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Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo
PoliticusUSA ^ | February 22, 2014 | Sarah Jones

Posted on 02/22/2014 2:15:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

So we have reached the aporia of the Right’s main argument against President Obama, wherein their arguments are deconstructing themselves via their own rhetoric undermining their claims.

Republicans call the President a dictator and say his boot is on their necks, he is stomping on the Constitution, he is an “imperial” president. And yet all of them remain free to say these things in public, on TV. There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.

Leading this charge is the still bitter Sarah Palin, whose behavior post 2008 loss makes John McCain’s look magnanimous and mature. Palin posited that after Obama left Americans for “destroyed”, the press finally woke up. Palin seems to miss the fact that she is still free after all of these many years of traitor-adjacent behavior to write and speak whatever she pleases, no matter how egregious, including her attempt to portray criticism of her “speech” (her gun sights over Democratic districts prior to the Arizona massacre) as “blood libel”.

No brownshirts have come for Palin. Yet she wrote this on her Facebook page, as if Obama were Hitler, just as elected Republicans across the country inaccurately portray him:

"What? Lamestream calls for empathy, even outrage, for a First Amendment violation that’s on par with all the abuse we’ve brought to your attention as Obama stomps on our Constitution. You’ve IGNORED us, you’ve marginalized us, you’ve left us for “destroyed.” But when Obama’s boot is on YOUR neck you finally wake the h*ll up and cry foul? Good Lord."

Then she linked to this Breitbart article bemoaning the loss of freedom under this President, as if George W. Bush’s “free speech zones” and silencing of the Dixie Chicks had never happened.

They were for it before they were against it, apparently. (According to the very conservative ACLJ’s press release, the press actually had a “significant” First Amendment and free press victory today as the Obama administration pulled the plug on a newsroom “monitoring” system – aka, studying “perceived station bias.”, a thing conservatives are very against, as you might imagine.)

A dictator would never have allowed Sarah Palin to attack him while on foreign soil, during a time of war and while the country faced a huge financial crisis, no less. This is why the foreign press called Sarah Palin a traitor, while our own press continues to give her and her fellow Republicans (it says a lot about the party that Palin is no longer the most outrageous attack dog) access as if the things she says are not outrageous.

“And now she turns not only against the fibre and backbone of her country, but against its democratically elected President… “

That was in 2010, and Sarah Palin and the GOP have hardly let up since then.

While the right gets Martin Bashir fired for his suggestion that Sarah Palin might not think policy issues were just like slavery if she actually knew anything about slavery, when the Dixie Chicks said they were ashamed that Bush was from Texas, their music was shut out by mainstream outlets around the country:

"Music superstars the Dixie Chicks are finding out that criticizing President Bush’s plans for war in Iraq can cost you air play, big time."

The Right has a very selective sense of free speech and free press.

And while the finer points of their failed arguments can be endlessly mocked, it really comes down to one thing. If Obama really were the dictator they accuse him of being, none of them would be free to continue accusing him of being a dictator.

If you are allowed to have public discussions about executive branch decisions with which you disagree, and you are not being shunned for it or fired over it, then you are most likely not living under a dictator.

Living under a dictator would be more like it was under George W. Bush, when even “liberal Hollywood” shrank in fear of being accused of being unpatriotic. So they turned their backs on Michael Moore’s March 23, 2003 Oscar speech — and on film sets in the weeks that followed, hard core liberals expressed disdain for the disrespect for our president, calling Moore’s behavior uncivilized (public shaming is a good silencer). I was there.

What was Moore’s crime? He spoke out against the war Bush had just started, just days prior. This is what he said that caused such a disruption — compare this to what Republicans say every single day about a President who did NOT lead us into a war on false pretenses. Moore referenced the way Bush was not really elected (a fact, he was appointed by the United States Supreme Court), and that the war was based on fictitious reasons (also true):

"We like nonfiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elects a fictitious President.

We — We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons.
 Whether it’s the fictition of duct tape or the fictitious [sic] of orange alerts, we are against this war, Mr. Bush.

Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.

And any time you’ve got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, your time is up. Thank you very much."

So it’s odd that Republicans keep accusing President Obama of being exactly what George W. Bush was in reality — a fake president, with dictator-esque tendencies. Under Bush, this country edged closer to a state of fascism, in which the people were kept in line through constant fear. People were arrested for wearing t-shirts that criticized Bush. ABC reported:

The Bush administration has agreed to pay $80,000 to a husband and wife who were ejected from a presidential rally because of their anti-Bush T-shirts. The settlement ends a suit brought by a Texas couple and the American Civil Liberties Union, claiming the couple’s First Amendment rights were violated when they were arrested and removed from a taxpayer-funded event featuring President Bush because their shirts read “Love America, Hate Bush” and “Regime Change Starts at Home.”

From terror alert levels to arrests for wearing the wrong t-shirt near the President to having your business ruined because you spoke out against what turned out to be an illegal war, things were bleak under Bush.

It turns out that Moore was correct. A boot on your neck? PBS reported, “And Moore was booed, stalked and threatened for it. He had to get a security detail to protect him from the death threats (some of which were encouraged by the media), and he claims that Homeland Security scratched up his Oscar at the airport on the way home.”

When you are openly criticizing the President of the United States and not too subtly trying to incite an overthrow of the government because you are still bitter that you lost to him, and no one comes to arrest you, the President is not a dictator. When you are still invited to have a reality TV show funded in part by the taxpayers of this country, the President is not a dictator. When you are still deemed to be civilized company and not being shunned for daring to suggest that you oppose something the President is doing, the President is not a dictator.

That is one fact of which you can be sure: President Obama is not a dictator and he is not silencing dissent. The proof is the fact that Sarah Palin is not in Gitmo. She is, in fact, making a living off of taxpayer money that Obama could easily put a stop to if he were that kind of petty, thin-skinned dictator — were he a Chris Christie type, for example, or a Nixon, or a Bush.

Note: For the fact challenged who got Martin Bashir fired, I did not say Sarah Palin should be in Gitmo. I am against Gitmo, just as Bashir is against slavery.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; michaelmoore; obama; palin; sarahpalin; stupid
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Boy there's sure a lot of sites obsessed with someone they call washed-up, moronic and ineffectual, isn't there? And how is Governor Palin making a living off of taxpayer money? Can anyone explain that to me? And a four-year-old could've written a similar message to Gnome Chomsky, Cindy Sheehan or a thousand other freaks during the Bush administration.
1 posted on 02/22/2014 2:15:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re sure afraid of Sarah Palin, aren’t they? GOOD!


3 posted on 02/22/2014 2:22:28 PM PST by kitkat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Abusive parties sometimes use jails. They have other weapons at their disposal. The media. The alphabet agencies. The loyalists. Attorneys. Palin has been on the receiving end of them all.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 2:22:38 PM PST by lurk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hitler never sent anyone to Gitmo'.

Hitler grew in the job too. He learned over time what he could actually get away with.

5 posted on 02/22/2014 2:22:48 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo,

It's coming. The steps to that end are already being put into place.

And yet all of them remain free to say these things in public, on TV. There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.

We learned that the FCC is planning to impose restrictions on saying such things. So this author is nothing but a propagandist stooge for the MarxoFascists.

6 posted on 02/22/2014 2:24:37 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, Totalitarian statist 0dunga doesn’t put his opponents in the gulag - yet.

He sics the IRS on them.

Sics the FEC on them.

Sics his surrogate, perpetually offended, 401-c3 and 401-c4 organizations on them with endless frivolous lawsuits.

0dunga just isn’t as brutally obvious as the Castro brothers ... not yet.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 2:24:47 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...No brownshirts have come for Palin.

This bimbo doesn't understand that she is the brownshirt...or is it more fashionable to call them Taupe-tops or Bone-blouses.

If she is over twelve, she should be ashamed of her writing skills.

8 posted on 02/22/2014 2:24:48 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It seems that most of this country is GITMO. We are being punished for crimes against the state (liberalism).


9 posted on 02/22/2014 2:26:17 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: mountainlion

If the left gets the power they would indeed be sending conservatives and Christians to the camps


10 posted on 02/22/2014 2:28:21 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gitmo? I thought that Obama closed Gitmo years ago. /sarc


11 posted on 02/22/2014 2:28:33 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would take two hours that I just don’t have to rebut this article point by point because every point is either wrong, poorly argued, draws heavily on liberal mythology or is based on PDS rather than fact.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 2:29:14 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A dictator would never have allowed Sarah Palin to attack him while on foreign soil, during a time of war and while the country faced a huge financial crisis, no less.”

They all called bush a dictator and bush let the dixie chicks get away with just that.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 2:29:20 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Still Thinking

I think the article was written, sent to the mac daddy administration morons for review and edited by mac daddy himself prior to release.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 2:29:52 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: dhs12345
Gitmo? I thought that Obama closed Gitmo years ago. /sarc

He did. Just try to leave here. Just like hotel California, you can check in but you can never leave.

15 posted on 02/22/2014 2:30:49 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sigh. Where to begin with all the lies and misinformation? Hopeless.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 2:31:13 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“When you are openly criticizing the President of the United States and not too subtly trying to incite an overthrow of the government because you are still bitter that you lost to him”

Did Palin run for prez? Funny how this obama ass licker would throw “openly criticizing the president’ when that’s what the lib media and the Dumocraps did for 8 straight years when W was prez’.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 2:31:21 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Then she linked to this Breitbart article bemoaning the loss of freedom under this President, as if George W. Bush’s “free speech zones” and silencing of the Dixie Chicks had never happened."

If the author can't (or won't) see the difference between what happened to the Dixie Chicks and having an FCC watchdog in every newsroom, then there's really no point in engaging in debate with an individual of such profound cranial density.

18 posted on 02/22/2014 2:31:54 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: lurk
Yeah, especially that alphabet agency known as the IRS. Palin's brother, Chuck Heath Jr., said the following:

"My father, who worked multiple jobs and faithfully and honestly paid his taxes for fifty years, had never heard a word from the IRS. In 2008, his daughter was tapped to run for vice president of the United States. Since that time, he has been, in his words "horribly harassed" six times by the agency. They've tried to dig up something on him but he's always operated above board."

When an attack on an intended victim might appear too obvious and risky, an old gangland tactic is to hurt a close family member.

19 posted on 02/22/2014 2:32:01 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: max americana

It’s like this whole concept of freedom of speech and openly dissenting from the government is a brand new and radical thing.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 2:32:16 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: mountainlion

Erica, just cause a dictator doesn’t have his foot on
your neck, doesn’t mean he’s not standing on your hands,
and it certainly doesn’t mean he doesn’t WANT to step
on your face.


21 posted on 02/22/2014 2:32:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo”

Someone needs to tell author sarah jones that if obama wasnt a dictator, he wouldnt be sending the irs to harass his political opponents. He wouldnt be delaying sections of obamacare as he saw fit.


22 posted on 02/22/2014 2:32:54 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bush sucked when it came to freedom. Obama sucks worse.

Maybe it's damn time to take some power away from the Executive Branch.

23 posted on 02/22/2014 2:33:03 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Proof liberals believe in such things as locking up their political opponents.


24 posted on 02/22/2014 2:33:26 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am sure Sarah P. has had her fair share of IRS audits. Why use GITMO when you have govt agencies to harass your fellow Americans?


25 posted on 02/22/2014 2:33:33 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone needs to tell the Leftist, Liberal socialist Sarah Jones that her dear leader Obama still has three years, or more left in power and detention of Conservatives is always a possibility with the Obama regime.

“Sarah Jones: Managing Editor/Columnist

Since joining PoliticusUSA in February of 2009, Sarah has been quoted by The Atlantic Wire, The Week, The Richard Dawkins Foundation and more. Along with her life long interest in feminism and social justice, Sarah has a background in TV/Film (TV host, news anchor, producer & writer) and has written and produced award winning documentaries. Sarah graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa with a major in Psychology & Latin. Follow Sarah on Twitter here.”

http://www.politicususa.com/about-us


26 posted on 02/22/2014 2:34:53 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: GeronL

Abso-freakin’-lutely. Look at New York: Andrew Cuomo and the blatant Marxist Bill duh Blasio aka Warren Wilhelm telling the public they do not want anyone in the state who is an “extreme conservative”. What is their definition of an “extreme conservative”? Anyone who is against homosexuality and abortion - Christians.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 2:35:09 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“aporia,” What the heck does this word mean? It does not show up in my World Book Encyclopedia dictionary which is about 6 inches thick. It this just another example of the left taking control of the language and making things up?


28 posted on 02/22/2014 2:35:29 PM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

bump


29 posted on 02/22/2014 2:36:15 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He doesn’t throw Palin in Gitmo because it would endanger the progress of his gradual but deliberate advance to a totalitarian state.

Just because he doesn’t have total power yet doesn’t mean he isn’t fully intent on getting it.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 2:36:39 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“There isn’t even any backlash to speak of.”

Unless you count being harassed by the IRS, FBI, OSHA and EPA for being a TEA Partier, like this woman and many others...

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/20/nonprofit-tea-party-chief-ive-been-hassled-not-just-by-the-irs-but-by-the-fbi-atf-and-osha/


31 posted on 02/22/2014 2:36:51 PM PST by Hugin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ms. Jones, how would you describe running the IRS and the Justice Department as your own private gestapo? Was it the Obama administration that tried to stamp out dissent by making financial proctological exams of any organization that dares put patriot or tea party in its name or by conducting illegal surveillance of journalists who just happen to work for the dreaded Fox News? And let’s not mention the capricious changes to that wonderful Obamacare law without consulting Congress.


32 posted on 02/22/2014 2:36:56 PM PST by DeFault User (Obamacare needs to be changed often, just like a baby's diaper--and for the same reason.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin may not be in gitmo, but she sure was targeted and maligned more than any other conservative alive today, but Bush...

Author of the article is a moron...


33 posted on 02/22/2014 2:37:17 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Music superstars the Dixie Chicks are finding out that criticizing President Bush’s plans for war in Iraq can cost you air play, big time." The Right has a very selective sense of free speech and free press.

Let's see, first of all it wasn't the Right that spanked the Dixie Chicks, it was the American people exercising their freedom of association. And second of all the left has a highly impaired sense of memory and equality considering what they have and still do say about Bush and other Conservatives. I completely missed the part of the Constitution that said it was really only for liberals.

34 posted on 02/22/2014 2:37:47 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clown logic.

Obama-the-First-Undocumented-Moslem-pRes_ _ent-Tyrant
has demonstrated hate for the American people and the
US Constitution. He has destroyed Law, NASA, banking,
innovation, medicine, US security, strong
American alliances and more with his czars and pens.


35 posted on 02/22/2014 2:38:01 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Still Thinking

Be grateful for that.

But also remember that he is not finished yet and has a few more years to go,


36 posted on 02/22/2014 2:38:14 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone needs to tell Obama that if any one of hundreds of millions of Americans who value liberty and freedom were President, HE would be in GITMO.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 2:38:27 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I am against Gitmo, just as Bashir is against slavery.

After all that verbiage, and the writer closes with one of the biggest non sequiturs in the article. The problem with Bashir wasn't his negative opinion of slavery, it was his pro-position on the subject of crapping in Sarah Palins mouth whilst urinating in her eyes.

38 posted on 02/22/2014 2:38:53 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Taupe-tops... brilliant.

No backlash to speak of? Easy to miss it if you just ignore what’s been happening with the IRS, to Dinesh D’Souza, or if you’re never aware of it at all thanks to people like her.


39 posted on 02/22/2014 2:39:40 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did your Federal ‘Minder’ tell you to write this article Ms. Jones?


40 posted on 02/22/2014 2:39:55 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Part of me says, "I wish he would try it." [Put Sarah Palin in Gitmo], but reality sets in and I realize that if he tried to, he would probably succeed. We haven't stood up to him on anything yet, so why start then? [If he tries to put Sarah Palin or any other popular Conservative in Gitmo.

In reality Obama does as he pleases and when he pleases.

41 posted on 02/22/2014 2:41:31 PM PST by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is described by what HE DOES not what his detractors “remain free” to do. Obama is in fact on the traditional arc for Evil.


42 posted on 02/22/2014 2:41:32 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“, including her attempt to portray criticism of her “speech” (her gun sights over Democratic districts prior to the Arizona massacre) as “blood libel”.

1) They werent gun sights. They were surveyor marks, moron

2) she wasnt referring to criticism of her speech as “blood libel”. After the shooting, liberals in and out of the news media were pointing fingers at those of us on the right, trying to pin blame on us (when the shooter was a left winger). Thats what she was accurately calling a blood libel. Falsely blaming a crime on a group of people who had nothing to do with it.


44 posted on 02/22/2014 2:42:33 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This loser a negroid?


45 posted on 02/22/2014 2:43:26 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: GeronL

Didn’t a certain hag say “dissent is patriotic”? Hmmmm, I forgot what her name was but it rhymes with Nazi’..


46 posted on 02/22/2014 2:43:43 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone Needs to Tell Sarah Palin If Obama Were a Dictator, She’d Be In Gitmo

The psychological term for this is projection. What this liberal is really saying here is that she would like to throw all Conservatives into a concentration camp if she could get away with it. I'll bet O'Bastard feels the same way.

47 posted on 02/22/2014 2:44:06 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This loser a negroid?


48 posted on 02/22/2014 2:45:03 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ya gotta read the few comments at the link! They’re a hoot!


49 posted on 02/22/2014 2:45:39 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: max americana

A few years ago dissent was patriotic, now it is almost treason. lol


50 posted on 02/22/2014 2:45:58 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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