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Sorry, Michele Bachmann. We Are Ready for a Female President. And Itís Partially Because of You.
The Daily Beast ^ | February 21, 2014 | Eleanor Clift 

Posted on 02/22/2014 6:34:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The Congresswoman from Loonyville says Americans can’t handle a woman in the Oval Office—never mind her own presidential run.

As the only woman to win a delegate to the Republican convention in almost forty years, Michele Bachmann now says many Americans “aren’t ready” for a female president. “I don’t think there is a pent-up desire,” she told syndicated columnist Cal Thomas last week.

I’ve been in Washington a long time, and I’m accustomed to hypocrisy, mendacity, and good old-fashioned flip-flopping. What I don’t understand is a woman who ran for president, who asked people to give her substantial sums of money to advance her campaign, who now says the country isn’t ready.

The most charitable explanation for Bachmann’s assertion is that the voters rejected her, she’s a woman, and she now thinks any female contender is likely to meet the same fate. It’s a pretty big leap from a single data point, but Bachmann’s remarks, whether well-intended or a partisan jab, do force into the open an ongoing discussion about Hillary Clinton, and the extent to which gender will influence her expected bid for the presidency in 2016.

Bachmann’s suggests that Clinton will be at a loss because electing a woman doesn’t achieve the historical stature of electing the first black president. “I think there was a cachet about having an African-American president because of guilt,” she said. “People don’t hold guilt for a woman.”

Bachmann could use a refresher course on the 2008 election, and the circumstances that helped elect Barack Obama. It was not because of liberal guilt, but because the country—or a broad swath of the country—was looking for hope and change. He’s not been as successful as many would like, in large part because of GOP intransigence that has turned an opposition party into an enemy camp.

So her hypothesis is wrong. The people who made up the coalition that voted for Obama were pleased to demonstrate they could vote for a black man, and that their country would elect a black man, but they would have voted for almost any Democrat. Obama was not elected on the strength of crossover votes from Republicans seeking to assuage their guilt. Sorry, Michele.

The other point to make is that elections are not comparable. These candidates exist in relationship to each other. Hillary Clinton will be running, if she does, as a completely unique figure—a former First Lady, U.S. Senator and Secretary of State—a high-profile woman with a really strong brand. Obama in ’08 was a blank slate; he could be whatever the voters imagined. He was a Rorschach test, vaulted into the presidency by positive perceptions and unrealistic expectations.

Clinton occupies a space in everyone’s brain. We all know what we think about her, and whether we like her or not. Even those who dislike her, some intensely, concede she’s qualified to be president. Her challenge is to position herself as an agent of change, not an easy thing to do when you were last in the White House two decades ago. “It’s like turning Old Coke into New Coke,” says Paul Equale, a lawyer and longtime Democratic activist.

The extent to which Clinton’s campaign will excite and energize the Democratic base is unknowable. That’s the challenge she faces. The historic nature of her candidacy will help; it’s a foundation to build on, but ultimately the ideas and the vision she advances will speak to the voters most clearly.

Some women of a certain age were disappointed and angry over Obama getting ahead of Clinton in ’08, a frustration that you could say had its roots in the suffrage movement when Lincoln advocated for the 13th amendment giving black men the right to vote while telling women they had to wait. It took another 55 years or so for the suffragists to push their right to vote over the finish line. Clinton’s supporters have waited four years, and there’s no indication their loyalty and zeal have diminished.

Lastly, Clinton won’t be running in isolation. As the Democratic nominee, she will face the nominee of a Republican Party whose brand has been tarnished by a parade of politicians who don’t know how to speak to women, or how to grasp the magnitude of the demographic change in America. Bachmann got attention for some of the wacky things she said during her short-lived run for the presidency, but she did help make the GOP more comfortable with women as leaders and qualified to president. Oh, the irony.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; hillary; michelebachman; palin
Yeah, I'm surprised Eleanor is still alive, too. And a "barf alert" is implied in anything she writes.
1 posted on 02/22/2014 6:34:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He’s not been as successful as many would like, in large part because of GOP intransigence that has turned an opposition party into an enemy camp.

Obama was marketed as 'the great uniter'.

Is it possible someone lied?

2 posted on 02/22/2014 6:38:02 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Even those who dislike her, some intensely, concede she's qualified to be President."

Ummm - no.

3 posted on 02/22/2014 6:42:39 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He’s not been as successful as many would like, in large part because of GOP intransigence that has turned an opposition party into an enemy camp.”

Yeah, that’s right Eleanor, It’s all the Republicans fault. The party that rolls over at every turn.

This witch is delusional like most fossilized liberals.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 6:43:05 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Eleanor, you are from “Liberal Hell,” you asinine sphincter muscle.

I watched you for over ten years on PBS. You rarely had an appropriate viewpoint. It never made sense that people paid for your cr@&.

You aren't worthy enough to even breathe the same air as Michelle, you witch.

5 posted on 02/22/2014 6:45:20 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eleanor Clift is an insentient 40 IQ ape. And I’m being kind in my description of that thing.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 6:46:31 PM PST by sergeantdave (Chase the worm to bottom of the Tequila bottle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet



7 posted on 02/22/2014 6:47:01 PM PST by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A female in the White House?

As long as it is someone who can do the job and accept responsibilities.

That leaves out weasly, socialist, one-worlders with no record of accomplishments or proven ability.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 6:47:18 PM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Clinton occupies a space in everyone’s brain. We all know what we think about her, and whether we like her or not. Even those who dislike her, some intensely, concede she’s qualified to be president.

Frankly, Ms. Clift, Mrs. Clinton wasn't even qualified to serve as First Lady, much less in any other position. Every assignment she has attempted in her career has ended up a flaming pile of burnt, reeking sewage, even when it started out as gleaming gold before she got her grubby mitts on it. People who were attempting to serve their country iin the diplomatic corps have died because of Mrs. Clinton's abject incompetence, something both she and you fail to recognize to this very day.

Why you are stupid enough to believe that this type of fecklessness is a prerequisite for serving as President is something only you may be able to answer, Ms. Clift. Unfortunately, no answer you may attempt to give to that question can ever be adjudged as satisfactory.
9 posted on 02/22/2014 6:49:46 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God I hope Governor Palin runs in 2016.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 6:53:48 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: ConservativeMind
Eleanor, you are from “Liberal Hell,” you asinine sphincter muscle.

That's rude! Everyone knows that she is just one member of the liberal press that makes up the human centipede attached to nobamas butt.

11 posted on 02/22/2014 6:55:11 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Milton Miteybad

What difference does it make!!!!


12 posted on 02/22/2014 6:56:27 PM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If we e-mail her and tell her that, maybe she will.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 6:57:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Even those who dislike her, some intensely, concede she's qualified to be President."

She is a natural born citizen of the United States who is over age 35 so yes she qualifies to be President.

Now if you are asking if she has the qualities and skill set to be a good or even a reasonable President, oh my, no.

14 posted on 02/22/2014 6:58:12 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not this one:

This is what I imagine was the conversation:

Zer0: "Hillary, that was a pretty nasty fall in the State Department garage. Do we have to send you off to detox from the booze?"

The Beast: "Don't talk to me about my drinking! I'll have you exposed for your drug use! I'll haul you out of the closet for your sexual activities! Don't you dare push me!"

Zer0: "Remember Benghazi? You told me to get some sleep and you would handle it. I have a file a mile long on you. And, Oh yes! You do have a lesbian streak in you, Hillary dear. And,I heard you are suffering from a concussion. I suggest you step down from Secretary of State and, as you say, "Get some sleep." You'll need the rest if you plan on running for President!"

15 posted on 02/22/2014 7:04:52 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Eleanor is just angry because at age 18 she sucked a lemon and her face froze that way.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 7:05:34 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I didn’t even get past the byline that said ‘Elenor Clift’.

It may as well have said written by a stupid leftist shithead.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 7:09:17 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Hardastarboard
"Even those who dislike her, some intensely, concede she's qualified to be President."

She's qualified for Leavonworth prison and that's about all.

18 posted on 02/22/2014 7:11:01 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: nhwingut

People like Eleanor Clift are the reason Salem started burning witches.


19 posted on 02/22/2014 7:13:29 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Clinton occupies a space in everyone’s brain. We all know what we think about her, and whether we like her or not. Even those who dislike her, some intensely, concede she’s qualified to be president.

This is the silly assertion I've seen all month. And there's been a ton of em.

If I could I'd like to ask Ms Clift to back it up.

Because as far as I can see Hillary has not done a damn thing on her own, and where she's been in a position to accomplish something on her own she's effed things up and gotten people killed.

20 posted on 02/22/2014 7:14:19 PM PST by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the circumstances that helped elect Barack Obama. It was not because of liberal guilt, but because the country—or a broad swath of the country—was looking for hope and change.

So her hypothesis is wrong. The people who made up the coalition that voted for Obama were pleased to demonstrate they could vote for a black man, and that their country would elect a black man, but they would have voted for almost any Democrat.

Oh look, Eleanor is doing logic. See Eleanor go. Go, Eleanor, go!

And while you're going, skank, explain how even though "the people who made up the coalition that voted for Obama" (AKA "the people formerly for Hillary who dumped her cankles to the curb), "would have voted for almost any Democrat," except they specifically did NOT vote for the shoe-in Hillary inaugurationa nd went way, way, way out of their way (and into mortal danger) by rejecting Hillary for Obama.

And oh, by the way, Ms. Logical Genius, doesn't that mean that these Rats Who Dumped Hillary were looking precisely for the "hope and change" AWAY from Hillary, so much so that they elected a complete nobody, with zero record in leadership, rather than Cankles the Perpetually Angry?

And does that mean your hypothesis is wrong, Eleanor? Or does it just mean that you'll run back to the coven and get new talking points, because at the end of the day what you can take home is that you are on the same page as the consensus, and so your butt is safe from the rage of the Endless Screwup?

21 posted on 02/22/2014 7:26:34 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: 3boysdad

Ehhh...apparently none, to the beetle-brained Eleanor Clift. To anybody else who has the capacity to think...well, it probably makes quite a bit of difference.


22 posted on 02/22/2014 7:27:02 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anything from the daily beast is a defacto barf alert also


23 posted on 02/22/2014 7:27:25 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Say it loud. Say it often

What Difference, at this point, does it make??

24 posted on 02/22/2014 7:31:28 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: LostInBayport
...at age 18 she sucked a lemon and her face froze that way.

Was it Bill Clinton? He was/is quite a lemon.

25 posted on 02/22/2014 7:37:51 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eleanor inspired the original scientific investigation into Viagra.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 7:39:21 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clift is a near dead DemocRat. FU Clift.


27 posted on 02/22/2014 7:42:00 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish Michelle Bachman would get voice lessons. When I read her writing, I am often impressed. When she speaks, it sounds like she’s unsure of herself and is begging us to agree with her just to be nice.


28 posted on 02/22/2014 7:42:10 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ya know those 2 tubs for that a-reptile disfunction drug commercial. She is the reason it’s not one big hot tub.


29 posted on 02/22/2014 7:43:16 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: skeeter

After the Russian/Amerikan hockey game they had a post-game analysis.

Wasn’t minutes before meredith viera brought up shitlery. Off went the tv.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 7:54:53 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Before I saw who wrote this, I thought it might have been Kathleen Parker behind the keyboard


31 posted on 02/22/2014 8:10:47 PM PST by digger48
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To: Hardastarboard

I would have voted for Hillary over McCain — until McCain picked Palin, then I decided I would pinch my nose and vote for him. As it ended up, Obama won the primaries.

Reason being — I thought Hillary was a mean S.O.B, but a pragmatic one. I thought she would confound our enemies. But her career as Secretary of State proved otherwise. She ran a strong campaign because she had a machine behind her. That machine couldn’t follow her around and manager her as Secretary of State, so as an individual, her work product is pretty weak.


32 posted on 02/22/2014 8:14:30 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

As a side note to this thread, please consider the following. If the federal government was working within it constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, and the president elected by the electoral college the Founding States had intended for it to work, then citizens would probably have to guess who the incumbent president is.

In other words, concern if the country is ready for a female president reflects that many people probably still don’t understand that most of the federal government’s powers have been wrongly usurped from the states.


33 posted on 02/22/2014 8:31:04 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“.. I’m surprised Eleanor is still alive..”

She has been shovel ready for about 90 years now.


34 posted on 02/22/2014 8:47:22 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That they hate Michele so much, even now, shows how effective she has been.


35 posted on 02/22/2014 9:00:45 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Congresswoman from Loonyville says...the left never misses a chance to demean - sad that they can't at least show a bit of human decency and respect for those with whom they disagree - but Alinsky would sure be proud......
36 posted on 02/22/2014 9:04:54 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I never want to see a female POTUS, PERIOD.


37 posted on 02/22/2014 9:33:47 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Eleanor Clift calling anyone looney is a chuckle.


38 posted on 02/22/2014 9:49:55 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That shriveled and shrieking prune will never go away. Will she?


39 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:07 AM PST by billhilly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That shriveled and shrieking prune will never go away. Will she?


40 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:30 AM PST by billhilly
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To: Rembrandt

“She has been shovel ready for about 90 years now.”

Well done.


41 posted on 02/23/2014 3:34:42 AM PST by billhilly
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To: Hardastarboard

Hilary Clinton? Qualified to be president?
She screwed up everything she touches. Got fired by a Uber Lib head hunter who was wanting Nixons scalp because she was a liar and a lousy lawyer.
She screwed up being a wife and a mother. As SecState she got people killed.
Give us a break.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 10:54:33 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: skeeter

Eleanor Clift

Arguing climate change is a lost cause with GOP deniers so Obama shifts to mitigating its worst effects.
2:23pm - 15 Feb 14

https://mobile.twitter.com/EleanorClift

Looks like Dems standing with Obamacare while Repubs dream up attack ads
8:57pm - 28 Jan 14


43 posted on 02/23/2014 11:00:47 AM PST by kcvl
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Eleanor Clift

Obamacare, finally! Republicans sit on their hands, guess they love their preexisting conditions
8:55pm - 28 Jan 14

Get a grip, folks. It’s just a web site, and it will get fixed. White House shouldn’t be so defensive, it just invites media to pile on.
10:16am - 22 Oct 13

Bush era eavesdropping comes home to roost for Obama. Critics have luxury to make their case with 9/11 a fading memory
9:28am - 29 Oct 13

Ted Cruz is one-man wrecking crew for GOP dreams of reclaiming White House
9:44am - 25 Oct 13

https://mobile.twitter.com/EleanorClift


44 posted on 02/23/2014 11:05:58 AM PST by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
CZAR Gosnell Goebbels was elected to be the spokesman for the Democrap Party whose very essence is practicing the politics of FEAR, DIVISION, and HATRED!

The political divide in the country is not D vs R, but LIBERAL vs CONSERVATIVE!
45 posted on 02/24/2014 3:50:23 AM PST by leprechaun9
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