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The Courage of Transgender Soldiers (NY Times Op-Ed)
The New York Times ^ | FEB. 21, 2014 | Julia Baird

Posted on 02/22/2014 6:46:14 PM PST by Salman

SYDNEY, Australia — IT was 2 a.m., just a few days before Christmas, in a remote part of Afghanistan. Eight hours into a 16-hour shift, Ryan, a 23-year-old American naval sailor, was standing tense and alert, watching the footage of soldiers undertaking a nearby mission on a screen in front of him.

Suddenly, a hand clapped onto his back. Wheeling around to look at the face of his senior officer, Ryan knew the moment he had feared had come: His superiors had found out that his enlisted paperwork described him as female. Within three hours, he was on a plane.

Ryan, who is now stationed on a base in the United States awaiting a potential discharge, recently described that day to me. Ryan is the name his mother would have given him if he had been identified as male at birth. He does not want to reveal his real name because his case is being processed by the military.

While the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” in 2011 meant gays and lesbians could serve openly in the American military, transgender people still cannot, because the military defines gender nonconformity as a psychological disorder. So transgender soldiers serve in silence, facing dismissal if exposed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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... the military defines gender nonconformity as a psychological disorder. ...

Like that definition is a military peculiarity?

1 posted on 02/22/2014 6:46:14 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

“I think child molesters are very brave” — NYT editorial circa 2024


2 posted on 02/22/2014 6:55:52 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Salman

3 posted on 02/22/2014 6:55:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Salman

the military

The military has effectively drummed out the first Chief of staff:

“At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778) Lieutt. [Frederick Gotthold] Enslin of Colo. Malcom’s Regiment tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false Accounts, found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War and do sentence him to be dismiss’d the service with Infamy.

“His Excellency the Commander in Chief [George Washington] approves the sentence and with Abhorrence and Detestation of such Infamous Crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of Camp tomorrow morning by all the Drummers and Fifers in the Army never to return; The Drummers and Fifers to attend on the Grand Parad


4 posted on 02/22/2014 7:07:16 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Salman

I’m so tired of having this lunacy shoved down our throats.


5 posted on 02/22/2014 7:10:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Stories like this prove further that homosexuality is a mental disease.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 7:14:25 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Salman

Telling a man that he is a woman because he thinks that he was born the wrong gender is akin to giving a funny hat and a sword to a man that believes that he’s Napoleon and telling him that if he invades Russia he’ll feel better about himself.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 7:17:06 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Salman

Homosexuality is also a psychological disorder.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 7:27:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Just plain” homo used to be a disqualification from the military, too.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 7:30:59 PM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

It’s a man Baby


10 posted on 02/22/2014 7:32:20 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: Salman
The Courage of Transgender Soldiers.

There...fixed it.

11 posted on 02/22/2014 7:37:25 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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Oh look it must be the next "thing". Tranny soldiers! Seriously?

What would George Washington think?


12 posted on 02/22/2014 7:41:21 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Correct. There is no such thing as a transgendered person. They do not exist. There are poor lost souls who are so confused that they cannot see themselves. They want to be somebody else, literally. They reject themselves. Likely they have experienced a profound rejection and cannot respond normally to Eros. How sad is that? The Torah provides a way out of this confusion. The reach of the Moshiach is adequate for those who trust in HaShem. As David said, “This poor man cried out to the L-rd and the L-rd heard him and brought him up out of a horrible pit.” With G-d nothing shall be impossible.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 7:46:19 PM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: Salman

The purpose of the military is not to make outliers feel good about themselves, or to advance anyone’s career (although of course careerists use it that way.)

The purpose of the military is to deter attack and win wars. Period. There are standards of conduct with regard to personnel, civilians, and the enemy, but no one has the RIGHT to join the military.


14 posted on 02/22/2014 7:49:57 PM PST by heartwood
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His superiors had found out that his enlisted paperwork described him as female. Within three hours, he was on a plane.

Um, ewwww.

15 posted on 02/22/2014 7:58:20 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Salman
how did this thing ever pass the physical then???
16 posted on 02/22/2014 8:05:16 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Salman

Aren’t most women in the military fairly masculine anyway? I doubt that this soldier looked much different from any other females.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 8:10:28 PM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: Salman

Hmm..this...’person’ decided to lie when they entered the military....and hopefully didn’t lie too much afterward....exactly how high of a security clearance did it have? This is the sort of delusion our leaders live under- that our military can reflect our degraded and dying civilization and still operate effectively.


18 posted on 02/22/2014 8:12:48 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: daniel1212

So, the first Democrat?


19 posted on 02/22/2014 8:13:36 PM PST by Clioman
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To: Salman

Crazy is the new normal.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 8:13:39 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Salman

A naval sailor? Huh?


21 posted on 02/22/2014 8:15:25 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Salman

Im confused by the comments...

was this person born with male parts or female parts ???


22 posted on 02/22/2014 8:16:28 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: LUV W

You nailed it. I spent 7 years active duty in the Army. I met gay and lesbian soldiers who did their jobs better than me! Their sexuality was not an issue, they were good soldiers, period. Now it has gotten so messed up.

Gay and lesbian soldiers have been serving their country with honor forever. The people who are incapable of controlling their sexual desire have always failed within the military.


23 posted on 02/22/2014 8:20:15 PM PST by highpockets
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To: Salman
...because the military defines gender nonconformity as a psychological disorder.

It's always good when psychological disorders are defined as psychological disorders.

24 posted on 02/22/2014 8:25:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Communism kills!!!)
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To: Salman
...because the military defines gender nonconformity as a psychological disorder.

It's always good when psychological disorders are defined as psychological disorders.

25 posted on 02/22/2014 8:25:02 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Communism kills!!!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

That’s not important. What is important is how they “feel” about themselves.

For example, if I man who feels like he is a lesbian trapped inside a man’s body, you have to understand that. I would be a “Man/Woman” and you’d have to address me as “Sir/Ma’am.” See? And you better not accent or emphasize one title over the other either, Bub.

If I were to suddenly decide that I simply am a man you better know that and address me simply as “Sir” and if you don’t I’ll have your ass. If I suddenly decide I am a pre-woman you better know that too and address me as “Ma’am” or I’ll have your ass there as well.

Shoot a rifle? Know a bayonet from a banjo? Not in this Man/Woman’s Army, no Sir/Ma’am. These days it’s all about political correctness, Muslim outreach, and, social engineering.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 8:37:38 PM PST by FAA
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; NFHale; Liz
No wonder the Muzzies attacked us on 9/11.

The McCain's, Grahamnesties and Bushies (with Obama) want to take over the Muslim countries with a bunch of queers in dresses as US soldiers?

No wonder they think we are bringing hell to the earth. That makes it easier to convince young muzzies to put on those suicide packs.

27 posted on 02/22/2014 8:48:16 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: highpockets
I met gay and lesbian soldiers who did their jobs better than me! Their sexuality was not an issue, they were good soldiers, period. Now it has gotten so messed up.

Really? You had no problem with their perversion?
28 posted on 02/22/2014 8:49:46 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Torahman; Yehuda
“This poor man cried out to the L-rd and the L-rd heard him and brought him up out of a horrible pit.” With G-d nothing shall be impossible.

The problem is that the god of the land is fedzilla. People gave the beast the power to create and enforce lies as truth ("transgender", homo "marriage" and other depraved oxymorons).

What do you figure will be the decibels of wailing when those who embrace these lies realize that this same beast.gov has also redefined "health care"? They'll be pounding on the gates back to Realityville in a futile attempt to escape the Obamacare reaper.

29 posted on 02/22/2014 8:51:41 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Salman

Okay, I’m confused. I always am with these trans-whatever stories.

“His superiors had found out that his enlisted paperwork described him as female”

So, is this a dude who thinks he’s a woman, or a woman passing himself off as a dude? I’m assuming it’s the first scenario?

What a mess.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 9:05:05 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: Impy

I don’t even want to read this article.


31 posted on 02/22/2014 9:12:44 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: sickoflibs

Well I heard that in Iran men caught being gay get to choose between death and a sex change operation (believe it or not Iran is #2 in the world in number of sex change operations behind Thailand) and that Afghan warlords have a thing for dressing up little boys like girls, so maybe it’s actually a great idea!


32 posted on 02/22/2014 9:32:05 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Burkean

No, Not at all.
Well at least in my day the girls looked like girls and had a thing for guys that looked like guys anyway.


33 posted on 02/22/2014 9:40:10 PM PST by gfbtbb (Ladies and Gentlemen, we are on our own.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Born with a uterus.


34 posted on 02/23/2014 12:06:44 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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No, this isn’t satire — this is the Left’s actuality.


35 posted on 02/23/2014 12:15:01 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Salman

Yeah, their blatant unwanted sexual advances towards the normal people is very brave. Ugh. May the Times go bankrupt.


36 posted on 02/23/2014 1:27:27 AM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: Salman

When courage is used to describe a mental issue


37 posted on 02/23/2014 4:07:12 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: sickoflibs

Trans-genders are very disturbed people——if psycho-analysts knew anything about religion-—they would recognize this as a form of satanic possession.


38 posted on 02/23/2014 4:18:35 AM PST by Liz
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To: Impy; Salman; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; originofstrength; NFHale; Perdogg; GeronL

I was in the navy for 21 years. I think that about 90% of sailors and marines, I know, disagree with transgender service members.


39 posted on 02/23/2014 4:47:36 AM PST by PhilCollins
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transgender people still cannot

Oh, crap. Here we go again.

And the race is on to see if Barry can further defile the greatest military on earth with this social experiment bull$hit before he is escorted out of office, a moment that cannot come too soon.

40 posted on 02/23/2014 5:42:04 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

41 posted on 02/23/2014 5:46:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Impy

42 posted on 02/23/2014 5:49:13 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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43 posted on 02/23/2014 5:51:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Sigh...


44 posted on 02/23/2014 5:52:41 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Travis McGee

Heaven help us.


45 posted on 02/23/2014 5:53:39 AM PST by Liz
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To: Salman

Article seems to have vanished. Can someone hit reply and put a working link up? In any case, a guy with a penis who thinks he’s a girl, or thinks of himself primarily as a girl, or wants others to think of him as a girl—that is a textbook case of mental/psychological disorder. If that’s not a disorder, nothing is!


46 posted on 02/23/2014 12:30:58 PM PST by guitarist
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F****ing ridiculous.

How’s this: put them ALL in one unit, send them to the front lines in Asscrackistan, and see what happens.

Just a thought.


47 posted on 02/23/2014 1:04:41 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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“...I think that about 90% of sailors and marines,..”

Let’s hope it’s HIGHER than just 90%.

The Marines I work with are losing their minds over this sh*t.


48 posted on 02/23/2014 1:07:57 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Salman

I suppose that these days our military’s primary function and mission is to serve as a Social Play Ground, or as an International Meals On Wheels Program.

That would be opposed to the military’s original purpose, to Keep Our country safe from those that would destroy our Liberty and Freedom.

Don’t blame me.

I didn’t vote for this crap.


49 posted on 02/23/2014 1:56:51 PM PST by Howie66 (John Wayne McCornyn...he's just like US! Honest!)
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To: NFHale; Impy; sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Perdogg

“How’s this: put them ALL in one unit, send them to the front lines in Asscrackistan, and see what happens.”

They don’t care. Wasn’t Stevens in Libya a poof and supposedly violated, post mortem? One would think the libtards would be up in arms about that...nary a peep.

The one group of people Jesus hated in the Bible were hypocrites; we live in world of them. They’re the norm.

Good to see you all again, too.


50 posted on 02/23/2014 4:19:50 PM PST by originofstrength
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