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Planned food safety rules rile organic farmers [Obama wages war against farmers]
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 22, 2014 | Evan Halper

Posted on 02/22/2014 6:52:06 PM PST by grundle

Now, farmers are discovering that the FDA's proposed rules would curtail many techniques that are common among organic growers, including spreading house-made fertilizers, tilling cropland with grazing animals, and irrigating from open creeks.

Suddenly, from small family operations nestled in the foothills of Appalachia to the sophisticated organic-grower networks that serve Los Angeles and San Francisco, the farms that celebrity chefs and food-conscious consumers jostle to buy from are facing an unexpected adversary.

They're fighting back. Even though full enforcement of the rules is still years away, they are warning customers that some farms would have to close.

"They are going to drive farms out of business," said Dave Runsten, policy director for Community Alliance with Family Farmers in Davis, Calif.

"The consumer groups behind this don't understand farming," Runsten says. "They talk out of both sides of their mouth. They demand these one-size-fits-all regulations, then say, 'I don't want to hurt those cute little farmers at the farmers market. I shop at the farmers market.' It is frustrating."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: gmo; gmofood; governmentwar; libidiots; organicfood; regulations; theirturnnow

1 posted on 02/22/2014 6:52:06 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

He who controls the food...


2 posted on 02/22/2014 6:54:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: grundle

slowly but surely the wheels of tyranny are turning...


3 posted on 02/22/2014 6:56:16 PM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: grundle; All

Obama, like all his fellow Free Trader Commie Globalists...want a few Big Ag companies running all farms, growing only GMO foods

Local, specialty, and organic farms be damned


4 posted on 02/22/2014 6:57:59 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: grundle
Stalin also knew that self-sufficient peasants had to be eliminated.

Our totalitarian overlords have learned from the best.

5 posted on 02/22/2014 7:00:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: FReepers

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6 posted on 02/22/2014 7:09:28 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: grundle
“This is my badge. These are the fines. This is what is hanging over your head, and we want you to know that,” (Jim) Crawford says the (federal) official told him. …
Sounds like a stereotypical Soviet Commissar. Going after the perceived Kulaks already, eh?

Of course, Caroline Smith DeWaal, from the Center for Science in the Public Interest in (where else) Washington DC, comes up with this bit of central planning:
“Necessity is the mother of invention,” Smith DeWaal said. “Why not create a cooperative whose sole job it is to truck this stuff to a composting facility and truck it back? It’s an expense, but way better than the unexpected expense of a major recall and implications to your farm if an outbreak is traced to your product. There are costs either way.” …
Yeah; keep regulating things that are not the cause of food poisoning. Ivory tower left-wing politics strike again.
7 posted on 02/22/2014 7:21:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Cartoon Maxine Organic Vegetable Spring Summer Garden Gardening LOL Funny Laughs Laughing photo maxine_poop.jpg>

8 posted on 02/22/2014 7:25:07 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

My grandmother used to go to the local dairy and get pickup loads of poop to spread on the garden every year.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 7:28:11 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I don’t use poop , I use pure de old horse $#__.


10 posted on 02/22/2014 7:34:25 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: EBH

These fascist criminals need to take a look at the square in Kiev and be very afraid.


11 posted on 02/22/2014 7:40:50 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: piroque

This was of the bovine variety.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 7:41:21 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: grundle

FUBO...FUDeptofAgriculture...FUBigGovt...FUDCCorp...


13 posted on 02/22/2014 7:45:20 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

And lest we forget...FUFDA...FUFDA...FUFDA...


14 posted on 02/22/2014 7:46:52 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: grundle

You hippie organic farmers best lock and load. Be ready to drive out the federal fascist bureuacracy that you love and voted for. Or perish, suckers.

The imminent 2nd civil war could be more interesting than I thought. Organic farmers with RPGs and surplus German MG 42s. Ach-tung! Farm Bureau fascists. Die! Die!


15 posted on 02/22/2014 7:54:37 PM PST by sergeantdave (Chase the worm to bottom of the Tequila bottle)
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To: grundle

Be careful what you ask for, you might get it. The ‘organic’ crowd begged for regulation just as the ‘natural’ school did a generation before. Once a phrase or idea or practice becomes government property so do the adherents.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 7:55:05 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: grundle

“and irrigating from open creeks.”
Although I am from Texas, I lived in West Virginia for a while.

It will be very interesting when a Fed goes into the hills and mountains of West Virginia and tells them boys, “they can not use their own creek.” Just because you can walk into those hills does not mean you will walk out or ever come out.

ps

This is not criticism of those boys that live in the hills. They are good people but they are hard people. They will do you no harm if you do not harm them.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 8:10:36 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
My grandmother used to go to the local dairy and get pickup loads of poop to spread on the garden every year

Every year I get a load of topsoil mixed with Turkey Crap. We raise a lot of Turkeys in Central Texas and it is cheap. I till it in with last years soil and my tomatoes and squash and okra grow like you can not believe. I give tomatoes away. I eat tomatoes, I dehydrate tomatoes and then freeze them. When I need a tomato sauce I put the dehydrated tomatoes in a blender and grind them to a powder, add water and instant sauce. It is better than the canned sauce.

18 posted on 02/22/2014 8:17:18 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: grundle

Isn’t this similar to what Stalin did to the Ukraine?
Stalin took their crops and sold them for his own benefit and left them nothing to eat.
The FDA will just stop farmers from growing anything but Frankenfood.
The result is the same. The prices for organic will skyrocket and people will starve.


19 posted on 02/22/2014 8:28:34 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: BuffaloJack
Isn’t this similar to what Stalin did to the Ukraine? Stalin took their crops and sold them for his own benefit and left them nothing to eat. The FDA will just stop farmers from growing anything but Frankenfood. The result is the same. The prices for organic will skyrocket and people will starve.

They try that and a lot of agents may become ingredients in the very homemade fertilizers they seek to ban.
20 posted on 02/22/2014 8:49:55 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: sergeantdave

Hey Organic Farmers....

You only ‘CRY FOUL’ when ‘Obama’s Boot is on Your Neck’


21 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:11 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: grundle

To avoid potential health problems, anyone using manure from cattle for fertilizer should plow it in during the fall before planting in the spring. There are resources around the Net from studies and farmers on the topic. Cow manure is great fertilizer if old enough and used properly.

“Humanure?” It takes a couple of years in the soil for that to be safe, unless it’s properly composted for the required duration at the required minimum temperature or frozen for days at lower than -20 Fahrenheit (roundworms—toughest hazardous organism in human manure). There are also resources on the Net for that. Personally, I’ll leave using that stuff to Asians and California hippies. ;-)


22 posted on 02/22/2014 9:02:47 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: grundle

Laws against nature almost always fail. Even with the use of “the frog in the pot” ObamaCare style implementation.


23 posted on 02/22/2014 9:58:30 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Stalin also knew that self-sufficient peasants had to be eliminated."

Something that a few living Ukrainians remember all to well. However since LBJ our own government, federal and state, have succeeded in driving our landed poor off of their land and on to the dole through high property taxes and oppressive regulations.

24 posted on 02/22/2014 10:04:38 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Jane Long

You only ‘CRY FOUL’ when ‘Obama’s Boot is on Your Neck’


Many of us have been in this fight since the first Bush was in office.

It was during that era when M. Taylor first went from Monsanto to the FDA.


25 posted on 02/23/2014 4:25:59 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: piroque

Doesn’t this stuff have to “mature”? I thought if it came straight from horses it would burn the soil.

I find it ironic that so many small organic farmers (like those in Vermont) are flaming libs.


26 posted on 02/23/2014 5:02:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
Doesn’t this stuff have to “mature”? I thought if it came straight from horses it would burn the soil.

Yes,,,, my $___ has matured from 1-15 yrs.
The raw stuff is good for starting vegetable seeds ,use under the potting mix for the heat it generates.
BTW/ have to be careful with all manures is the salt content so don't over do it.

http://thebayougardener.com/smf/index.php?topic=577.0

Manure nutrient chart « on: February 01, 2010, 03:06:21 AM » ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Manure Type Dry Matter % Ammonium-N Total N P K ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swine, no bedding 18 6 10 9 8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swine, with bedding 18 5 6 7 7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beef, no bedding 52 7 21 14 23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beef, with bedding 50 8 21 18 26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dairy, no bedding 18 4 9 4 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dairy, with bedding 21 5 9 4 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheep, no bedding 28 5 18 11 26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheep, with bedding 28 5 14 9 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poultry, no litter 45 26 33 48 34 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poultry, with litter 75 36 56 45 34 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turkey, no litter 22 17 27 20 17 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turkey, with litter 29 13 20 16 13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horse, with bedding 46 4 14 4 14 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poultry compost 45 1 17 39 23 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dairy, compost 45 <1 12 12 26 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mixed compost Dairy/Swine/Poultry 43 <1 11 11 10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sources: Livestock Waste Facilities Handbook 2nd edition 1985

27 posted on 02/23/2014 5:29:50 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: piroque

hmmm ,,,,A lot different than the preview,,,hmmmm


28 posted on 02/23/2014 5:31:49 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: grundle
Buy "First Lady Brand" Arugula


29 posted on 02/23/2014 6:06:12 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: piroque

Oh, I’m hopeless at gardening. I have some seeds here which I hope to kill in a few weeks.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 6:23:31 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

Don’t I know that feeling, gardening a lot different that farming (over 40+ yrs.)Retired. Still love that smell of fresh dirt in the spring.


31 posted on 02/23/2014 6:33:42 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: piroque

As a suburban child, I loved the smell of the earth right before the rain.

I have a small garden - I’m successful with herbs; but herbs are easy to grow.


32 posted on 02/23/2014 7:22:47 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein
We do a lot herbs,dried, kept in pint jars on the back of the stove.
33 posted on 02/23/2014 10:22:17 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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