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Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”
Hot Air ^ | February 22, 2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 02/22/2014 7:31:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, I suppose that might be true. Democrats certainly picked this not-ObamaCare battle strategically, seeing as majority of Americans do like at least the idea of a minimum-wage hike on the federal level. It’s really just so good of the Democrats to mercilessly exploit that economic populism with more intellectually bankrupt lies about the ostensible benefits of mandating employers to pay all of their workers a certain arbitrary wage — instead of doing the harder thing, like Republicans, and campaigning to make sure that Americans don’t get screwed in the process. Via RCP:

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They come walk in the door, we would like you to sign this and Peter King is waiting for them. Peter King, does he want to have to sign that? He doesn’t want to not sign it. Pat Meehan, Mike Fitzpatrick, Gerlach, these other guys, they’re going to say, ‘Wait a minute, if I don’t sign this, then they’ll be able to go out and announce — the Democrats — that I, representing a lot of working, middle class families that I’ve said no to minimum wage.’ I think it’s a great way to screw the other side into doing something you want them to do. And it’s a win-win, because if they don’t do it, you kill them in November.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chrismatthews; congress; demagogicparty; democrats; economy; memebuilding; minimumwage; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills

1 posted on 02/22/2014 7:31:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are a hundred ways to respond to Matthew’s stupidity....the republicans can ‘t seem to figure out even one !


2 posted on 02/22/2014 7:37:07 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s what I hate about communists like Matthews. They’re always ready to spend OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY! Lowlifes.


3 posted on 02/22/2014 7:37:26 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Communism kills!!!)
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To: Popman

The GOP-e is on his side after all.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 7:38:26 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The best counter-move would be to reduce payroll taxes and make up the difference with a higher tax on entertainment income.

The poor working stiff then gets more take-home money and Hollywood pays for it!

A win-win for Republicans!

5 posted on 02/22/2014 7:39:46 PM PST by freerepublicchat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, the minimum wage hike benefits the unions who will pour that increased dues money into the campaign war chests of their failed DemonRAT politicians. The American unions have done more damage to this country by backing the Communist scum DemonRATs. Whatever good they have done for the workers is to put a sugar coating to the poison pill to Capitalism they have created.


6 posted on 02/22/2014 7:41:06 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: freerepublicchat

No, the best counter move would be to pass an increase in the minimum wage to $75. per hour and send it to the Senate. They would never take up the bill and the Republicans can turn the Democrats into the party that hates the poor!


7 posted on 02/22/2014 7:43:47 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Popman

To Chris Matthews:Planet Uranus is calling you,they want your brain and tingly legs back.


8 posted on 02/22/2014 7:48:53 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Matthews is one of those rare people who are so radical that they have become weird. I remember him being on “Jeopardy” and along with proving he was not very smart he came across as a real jackass. I suppose that is the only way he can come across.


9 posted on 02/22/2014 7:52:51 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With all of the various coverage on this issue and the CBO adding there knowledge; how much in additional taxes will be paid by the beneficiaries of the this great idea?
10 posted on 02/22/2014 7:54:18 PM PST by highpockets
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just double everyone in journalism’s tax rates to pay for it and they’ll be screaming bloody murder.


11 posted on 02/22/2014 8:19:58 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Jim from C-Town

$25 per hour is around $50,000 per year. That would be an easy counter-offer to make the libs gulp deeply.


12 posted on 02/22/2014 8:24:45 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ok increase the minimum wage and do away with earned income credit....food stamps, welfare, Obama phones, school meals etc...make em work for a change...


13 posted on 02/22/2014 8:40:20 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”...it's a great way to screw yourself - you'll be paying more for everything from hamburgers to oil changes - idiot.....
14 posted on 02/22/2014 8:59:03 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Chris Matthews: Minimum wage is “a great way to screw the other side”

After all that's the reason to go to Wash. D.C. isn't it?

What an arrogant elitist douche bag you are, Chrissie.

15 posted on 02/22/2014 9:38:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Popman
  The market responds quickly to government decrees in so many ways.


    Robot Serves Up 360 Hamburgers Per Hour


    Outsourced order taking


   automated checkout at grocery stores

  A fast food order could even be taken by someone overseas and the order could be sent to a computer operating the automated gourmet burger machine.
16 posted on 02/22/2014 10:11:09 PM PST by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

You want to make the amount absurd. Almost as absurd as a minimum wage in a free society. What right does the government have in telling me that I can not sell my labor below a certain price. Too many low info voters would not find $50K a year absurd. $150K a year is absurd to even the dumbest Obama voter.


17 posted on 02/22/2014 10:14:42 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The conservative base is getting tired of getting spit-roasted.


18 posted on 02/22/2014 10:14:51 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: rolling_stone

People who work full time jobs of any kind usually would not qualify for much of those programs. Those are reserved for the part timers who are forced to work a certain amount of time to remain qualified for these programs.


19 posted on 02/22/2014 10:16:14 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about putting price controls on big democrat doner products so that the poor can buy them. I need a new GE refrigerator. Or a GM pickup with a Duramax diesel.
Its not fair that those union auto workers make 48 bucks an hour.
they should make 15 per hr just because its not fair and it makes me feel bad.
Lets play the class envy game against these guys.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 10:25:57 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a Nobel Prize in economics awaiting someone who figures out how to keep their country’s currency lowest coin of the realm and its purchasing power stable during inflationary times. Not resorting to steadily raising an assigned devaluation to it by afixing a “living wage” which sends thjeir currency into an inflationary spiral.
Since the inception of establishing a “minimum wage” the very basic coin of the realm,the cent, has become valueless. Todays penny costs more to make than its assigned value. Even Canada stopped making them..

This is not an argument for establishing a let’s say an assigned valuation of a portion of a stable commodity like gold, to the basic coin being used itself such as a penny, instead of the dollar . Although that might be one idea to consider.

But to point out when a minimum wage rate is raised it affixes a given rate of inflation to the period of time it’s emplaced. All raising the minimum wage does actually is devalue the dollar because costs (purchase prices) eventually get adjusted in time, which is never discussed by those arguing for its advancement. All it does is hasten the devaluation of the dollar..

During Reagan’s time he attempted to deal with this by attempting to establish a bifurcated (two level) living wage. He did so becaise he realized that of those in need of workers.Some were in a financial situation that could not afford to pay the state mandated wage scale the law demanded and would be breaking the law. ..This was of course shouted down by the democrats and some republicans at the time..

What governments should be doing is set policies which maintain or increase the value of their most basic unit of their currency. Not support policies with incremental devaluations of it so that those fractional units of their currency in our case the nickle, then the dime, then the quarter, et-cetera eventually become a valueless.dollar .

A case in point is in the 1940’s a candy bar cost 5 cents when the hourly minimum wage was $.50 per hour. What does it cost today ? Likewise what were the costs of basic goods and services during that period of time as compared with todays basic wage feel good tinkering ? The result is that todays everything for a dollar stores are yesterdays five and dime.

Who gets hurt the worst when these adjustments are decreed by government? As an octogeneran I can testify to this; It’s those living on fixed incomes who’s income and savings value are based on previous purchasing power of previous era wage levels such as social security .

They get whacked by devaluation . Because their savings are not adjusted to the previous current rates of inflation. and that also includes living on government subsidies. Eventually those subsidies eventually get increased.but not those living on what’s known as “Life Savings” .

When these feel good socialists frauds under the democrat party banner propose these increases. That is never considered as they pound their breasts claiming they’re for the little guy. All they’re doing is un-necessarily raising the price on goods and services broadening the demand that those affected seek help from them..


21 posted on 02/22/2014 11:46:55 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: mosesdapoet
A case in point is in the 1940’s a candy bar cost 5 cents when the hourly minimum wage was $.50 per hour. What does it cost today ?

Check out the Big Mac Index. How much does a Big Mac cost in your currency? How long do you have to work to earn the price of a Big Mac? And how do those numbers correlate to the market exchange rate?

Then, of course, there is gold. It has been said that a suit of clothes good enough to wear while being sworn in as President of the United States should cost the price of an ounce of gold. An ounce of gold was $18.93 in 1861, a year when an Illinois lawyer was inaugurated. Since then Illinois lawyers of presidential caliber have decayed at a rate considerably exceeding the impressive inflation rate (gold is now $1326).

Screwing with the currency should not be an option open to policy makers.

22 posted on 02/23/2014 12:33:24 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure sissy mathews makes a tidy sum, so yes, minimum wage raises is the best way to screw the other side—that side that makes the least will now make nothing and have to depend on government in total.


23 posted on 02/23/2014 5:02:47 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Jim from C-Town
No, the best counter move would be to pass an increase in the minimum wage to $75. per hour and send it to the Senate. They would never take up the bill and the Republicans can turn the Democrats into the party that hates the poor!

I like that idea. $75 makes too easy to explain away for democrats. Perhaps tie the minimum wage to the average prevailing union wage would be better.

24 posted on 02/23/2014 5:09:40 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Jim from C-Town
No, the best counter move would be to pass an increase in the minimum wage to $75. per hour and send it to the Senate. They would never take up the bill and the Republicans can turn the Democrats into the party that hates the poor!

I like that idea. $75 makes too easy to explain away for democrats. Perhaps tie the minimum wage to the average prevailing union wage would be better.

25 posted on 02/23/2014 5:10:36 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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