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Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Urged Jews to Flee Kiev After Attack on Students
http://www.algemeiner.com ^ | February 21, 2014 2:18 pm

Posted on 02/23/2014 7:13:09 AM PST by pabianice

Edited on 02/23/2014 7:18:41 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

One of Ukraine’s Chief Rabbis, Moshe Reuven Asman, urged Jews to leave capital city Kiev following a reported anti-Semitic attack on two Chabad yeshiva students in the city last month, Israeli daily Ma’ariv reported.

“I told my community to get out of the city and if possible out of the state…there are many warnings about planned attacks against Jewish institutions,” Asman said, adding, “We have been told by the Israeli Embassy to not go outside.”


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich

1 posted on 02/23/2014 7:13:09 AM PST by pabianice
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To: SJackson

ping


2 posted on 02/23/2014 7:15:37 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: mountn man

QUESTION: Is the Ukraine hiding a dark past that has nothing to do with the Russians?


3 posted on 02/23/2014 7:29:48 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ukraine


4 posted on 02/23/2014 7:35:02 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: pabianice

That photo is outside the front of the Ukrainian Parliament building...same place where the “vote” was taken to remove the sitting President.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 7:38:32 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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6 posted on 02/23/2014 7:38:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

That whole region has a dark past for somebody. My great grandfather was a Polish/Russian/Hungarian/Austrian Jew. Jews have been pushed all over Europe with Eastern Europe being the worst.

I personally think the safest place for Jews in Europe at this point is probably Poland.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 7:42:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: pabianice

The Ukrainian situation is very, very dangerous... Much more so than the Yugoslavian problem in the 90s. Unfortunately the United States has a president who is more interested in golfing than world affairs, and he’s likely unable to influence any of the bad possible outcomes in the Ukraine because of his consistent lack of world leadership.

Russia will probably step in at some point. After all, this isn’t some distant Russian cousin having a dispute. This is a country that was run by Russia, a country that has a very large population of Russian ex-patriots and a country who’s stability the Russian economy depends on.

All Putin needs is a clear invitation or some significant incident to act and insert Russian forces. The one flaw that Putin does not possess is indecisiveness and with the free world lacking a real leader, Obama can huff and puff and even throw a tantrum if such a move occurs, but Putin knows in the end that Obama will do nothing.

One thing is for sure, this mess will not be good for Jews or any other minorities in the Ukraine. If I were there, I would be heading for the border as fast as I could.


8 posted on 02/23/2014 7:55:43 AM PST by jerod (Pro-Abortion Gun Control Freaks & Environmental Nuts who hated Capitalism? The Nazi's)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

What makes you think they’re hiding it? It seems pretty much out in plain sight to me.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 8:01:40 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: DIRTYSECRET

They were capos in death-camps.
Ukrainians were Hitlers henchmen in WWII


10 posted on 02/23/2014 8:02:10 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: cripplecreek

Serbia.


11 posted on 02/23/2014 8:02:48 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Well, the political party who stand most to gain from a coup of the sitting president is the opposition ultranationalist Svoboda, who are anti-semitic.


12 posted on 02/23/2014 9:20:58 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: pabianice
More of “they are all fascists” coming straight out of Kremlin, Jews should know better and don't fall for it. It's not that Putin's crew became so concerned with anti-semitism, really...
13 posted on 02/23/2014 10:02:35 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: kronos77

Yes, Jews had a “receiving line” of Ukrainians with rubber truncheons to greet them on the way to Babi Yar.


14 posted on 02/23/2014 10:05:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Look up Kazaria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars


15 posted on 02/23/2014 10:09:56 AM PST by mike70
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To: mountn man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Ukraine

A key bit buried in the wiki article:

Persons of Jewish origin were over-represented in the Russian revolutionaries leadership. However, most of them were hostile to traditional Jewish culture and Jewish political parties, and were loyal to the Communist Party's atheism and proletarian internationalism, and committed to stamp out any sign of "Jewish cultural particularism".

Counter-revolutionary groups, including the Black Hundreds, opposed the Revolution with violent attacks on socialists and pogroms against Jews. There was also a backlash from the conservative elements of society, notably in spasmodic anti-Jewish attacks – around five hundred were killed in a single day in Odessa. Nicholas II of Russia himself claimed that 90% of revolutionaries were Jews.

Russian author Solzhenitsyn noted: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

For better or worse, the Ukrainian perception was that Jews were heavily involved in the Communist Party and the secret police, and so blamed them for the atrocities that the Communists inflicted.

16 posted on 02/23/2014 10:41:51 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Strike that “better or worse”, I must have been writing in a fog.


17 posted on 02/23/2014 10:43:53 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
In some ways, not entirely different from US Jews, who vote overwhelmingly for the Democrat communist party.
18 posted on 02/23/2014 10:47:09 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Grzegorz 246

The Russians are masters of propaganda and Machiavellian intrigues The West never learns.

We knew a U.S. F.S.O. who repeatedly jeopardized his life to help Jewish communities in the Soviet Union. So, naturally, the Soviets painted him as anti-Semitic. He was never able to shake that rep.


19 posted on 02/23/2014 10:50:46 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: pabianice

I recognize the Ukrainian flag, but what is the other one?

At least there’s safety and many former Jewish Ukrainians in Israel.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 1:13:37 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork

Nationalists, Bandera party. Red & black, blood and homeland!


21 posted on 02/23/2014 1:18:34 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Aha, thanks. Sounds like they could have more traction there than Golden Dawn does in Greece.


22 posted on 02/23/2014 1:23:38 PM PST by OldNewYork
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Is the Ukraine hiding a dark past that has nothing to do with the Russians?

Do a search on Mykola Lebed and see for yourself.

23 posted on 02/23/2014 5:10:28 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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24 posted on 02/26/2014 5:49:43 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson

you beat me to a ping :-) The info in posting 16 above from wikipedia seems directly related to your other recent posts about the Western left and anti-semitism.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 6:34:53 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: F15Eagle

Did you hear something recently about the Jews fleeing France back to Israel, now this?

Whataya think? The Returning?


26 posted on 02/26/2014 6:37:17 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

It would seem like a lot of this stuff will happen.


27 posted on 02/26/2014 8:52:36 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ; PapaBear3625
For better or worse Jews were in the Ukraine since about the 11th century, and at the very least persecuted from the 16th forward. Several threads on this, Russian Lawmaker: 'Jews Destroyed Russia' , the Jews destroyed Russia by introducing communism, then destroyed Russia by overthrowing communism. Something other than rationality at work there.
28 posted on 02/26/2014 4:58:36 PM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we donÂ’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: SJackson
Jews in Medieval Europe had a complicated time of it. You had Court Jews who engaged in early forms of international banking, lending money to the nobility and others.

Since they could not own land, nor enter into the ranks of the nobility, kings and princes could entrust them with certain duties without fear of giving them power which could lead to being usurped by them. In their trades of merchants and money-lenders, they could only survive under the protection of those kings and princes, which might be the cultural origin of Jewish attachment for big-government.

29 posted on 02/26/2014 5:40:32 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Not very hidden.

The Ukrainians were more than happy to help the Nazis and had some of the best domestic Waffen Units and murder squads, better than even the Muslim Croatians.


30 posted on 02/27/2014 9:06:16 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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