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California almond farmers face tough choices
Associated Press via San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^ | Updated 8:13 am, Sunday, February 23, 2014 | By SCOTT SMITH, Associated Press

Posted on 02/23/2014 8:37:53 AM PST by thecodont

FIREBAUGH, Calif. (AP) — With California's agricultural heartland entrenched in drought, almond farmers are letting orchards dry up and in some cases making the tough call to have their trees torn out of the ground, leaving behind empty fields.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agriculture; almondgrowers; almonds; cadrought; califdrought; watershortage

1 posted on 02/23/2014 8:37:53 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

All Jerry Brown has to do is get legislation passed that would fine any grower who went out of business because of the fed’s not releasing water to them.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 8:40:14 AM PST by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: SkyDancer
"All Jerry Brown has to do is get legislation passed that would fine any grower who went out of business because of the fed’s not releasing water to them."

Or 0bama could do it himself by E.O. for all businesses, for any reason.

He could call it Directive 10-289.

3 posted on 02/23/2014 8:47:50 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: thecodont

My heart goes out to these people.
I can’t imagine that the folks that grow pecans to the east of me, or pistachios to the west would murder their trees for any reason.


4 posted on 02/23/2014 8:50:04 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: thecodont

5 posted on 02/23/2014 8:52:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: thecodont

This is all in the predominantly Conservative central valley of California. Wonder why? Nah.


6 posted on 02/23/2014 8:56:17 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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7 posted on 02/23/2014 8:57:43 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: thecodont

Great....another purported health food will sky rocket or come from ???


8 posted on 02/23/2014 9:03:30 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: thecodont

Call out the unorganized militia and TAKE the water as needed. What are they going to do about it, shoot you?


9 posted on 02/23/2014 9:05:25 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Not true. O’Reily called Obama a patriot just the other day.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 9:05:59 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Cold Heart

Was that the day that the single brain cell O’Reilly owns was on vacation? Golly I think so. :-)


11 posted on 02/23/2014 9:07:43 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: JimRed
Call out the unorganized militia and TAKE the water as needed. What are they going to do about it, shoot you?/I>

Yes.

12 posted on 02/23/2014 9:12:57 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: thecodont

Communists always use the full might of the state to destroy agriculture.


13 posted on 02/23/2014 9:14:42 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: LegendHasIt

10-289. You beat me to it.


14 posted on 02/23/2014 9:15:30 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: thecodont
I hope these almond farmers will survive. A few years ago my husband and I went salmon fishing on the British Columbia coast. We were informed before we left home that we would be sharing a cabin with 3 California residents.

I was nervous, all I could imagine was an actor, a film maker and a liberal politician. A nightmare right?

When we arrived we were introduced to 2 almond farmers and a tractor salesman. Imagine how relieved I was. They were great guys, all of them and I hate to think they are having this trouble.

15 posted on 02/23/2014 9:19:43 AM PST by Ditter
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To: thecodont

Great. Just when I develop a taste for almond milk.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 9:20:03 AM PST by skeeter
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To: thecodont
This month President Barack Obama visited the Central Valley, announcing millions of dollars in relief aid that in part will help the state's ranchers and farmers better conserve and manage water.

A better idea of where to spend it: Desalination plants.

17 posted on 02/23/2014 9:23:40 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: thecodont

The almonds scream oppression and the walnuts shake their heads.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 9:24:38 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: thecodont

am I suppose to feel sorry for these multimillionaire
1%ers?


19 posted on 02/23/2014 9:36:42 AM PST by RockyTx
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To: moose07

Desalination plants are a great idea. Where is the money for this? Going towards high-speed rail instead?

A California almond orchard in bloom in the spring is a beautiful sight. We need to work to keep this from being a memory.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 9:37:31 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Ditter

I guess that no one ever taught you not to broad brush!


21 posted on 02/23/2014 9:42:16 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Lion Den Dan

Ok, you believe they plan to shoot those who disobey water regulations. That makes it time to identify and locate THOSE WHO WILL GIVE THE ORDERS and cause them to disappear or have “accidents”. Cut off the head, the snake will die.


22 posted on 02/23/2014 9:48:00 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Texans get broad brushed every day so deal with it!


23 posted on 02/23/2014 9:50:22 AM PST by Ditter
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To: JimRed

By the way, preemptive self-defense is NOT murder!


24 posted on 02/23/2014 9:51:17 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: thecodont
"Nuts"
25 posted on 02/23/2014 9:57:36 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: thecodont

Where is the money?
The same place o’zero is going to magic it from...if he is going to spend it anyway ,make it count for something useful in the long term.
It could just pay for itself by preventing the loss of an important source of revenue. Plus the water is an exportable product to other states.
But we must not forget the ‘barry’ factor.


26 posted on 02/23/2014 9:57:44 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: thecodont

The guy dug up 20% of his trees and to what purpose? He can’t wait for the spring rains next month to see if the trees recovered? Sounds a bit rash or he’s got something else going that isn’t being reported. An immediate sell off of livestock when there is no water is a must but that’s not the case with trees. Either he got some government subsidy or he’s working on a bigger investment project for that now bare land.

While every venture has it’s risks, did he stop to think where he’d get water during dry years before he planted those trees? Would another crop use less water or was this all for the inital investors who could sell out during the good years?


27 posted on 02/23/2014 10:09:20 AM PST by bgill
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To: JimRed

Yep.


28 posted on 02/23/2014 10:15:01 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: null and void

“Communists always use the full might of the state to destroy agriculture.”

That is an excellent observation.


29 posted on 02/23/2014 10:16:02 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Ditter

hope they wait at least another week. This week California is supposed to get rain and the end of the week it is supposed to get an abundance of rain.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 10:57:58 AM PST by Newfy
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To: thecodont

Since the gun grabbers feel so threatened they should pack their bags and move to the safe gun free zones like Chicago, detroit, and DC.


31 posted on 02/23/2014 11:02:28 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: bgill
bgill said: "... did he stop to think where he’d get water during dry years before he planted those trees?"

My guess is that it takes very little time for someone who is not an optimist to give up farming. When things work well, the farmer does quite well. When they don't go well, the losses mount quickly.

Weather of all types, including rainfall, varies so greatly that nobody would plant anything if they couldn't tolerate the loss of at least some of the crop.

I was talking to an elderly man who farmed in west Texas when he was a young man. He recalled one year in which he had to plant his crops FIVE TIMES because flash floods or scorching heat or an untimely wind storm destroyed all his work. If he had been unwilling to re-plant the fifth time he would have had no crop at all.

The linked article explains that the trees that receive too little water are weakened and can become infested with insects and disease that can then spread easily to the rest of the orchard. Evidently they find it more economical to lose some of the trees to preserve the others.

The bottom line is that it is simply not as easy as it might appear to be a successful farmer.

32 posted on 02/23/2014 11:20:54 AM PST by William Tell
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To: edpc

at least one person here gets that reference.


33 posted on 02/23/2014 11:52:34 AM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Ditter

So does everyone else here, especially those who live in the northeast or California.


34 posted on 02/23/2014 12:02:25 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: thecodont
I live in Northern California (soon to be part of The State of Jefferson), and we are surrounded by almond orchards, walnut orchards, pomegranate orchards, rice fields, etc..

Sorry to say, most of these farmers have been recipients of agricultural welfare for decades.

This is what happens when you take money from your fellow citizens other than from the sales of your products.

The government owns you.

The citizens get screwed either way. The farmers gladly take the taxes stolen from us by the legislators they help get into office and then they get the rug pulled out from under them.

Gov. Moonbeam just announced that the farmers hurt by the drought will get even more money from the taxpayers.

Sweet deal, huh?

35 posted on 02/23/2014 12:09:06 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rlmorel; Coldwater Creek
Tell that to coldwater creek, he is the one who brought it up. I was just relating a personal story about finding some great Californians.
36 posted on 02/23/2014 12:37:36 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I think I see a new housing development in the works!
You would not believe the orange groves we knocked down in So Cal for Housing!


37 posted on 02/23/2014 12:43:52 PM PST by DocJhn
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To: thecodont

If you reduce the food supply by say, 30%, you drive up the price and the government may have to step in to seize food supplies and take over distribution, or at the least, to issue ration books and thus control whoever needs food.

If a recipient has little money, he or she may be able to eat at government expense and have your ration coupons for free. If you make more than a certain amount per year, why then, you will have to pay for your ration coupons to help the less fortunate. Money moves from the rich to the government to the poor, and the government gains control.

If you step out of line, will they reduce your rations, or raise the price for your coupons? Who can afford to not eat? Everyone sees the benefit of becoming a party member, a member of the collective!

So, how do you reduce the food supply? cut off water to the farmers in the name of progressive environmental ideology.

Preppers, be certain to consider buying some smelt fishing nets. (Fresh caught they are very good breaded and deep fried!) Be careful not to knock your guns off the bank and into the water when you reach for that bottle of beer!


38 posted on 02/23/2014 12:44:21 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission ("We will create a garden of ideological purity....")
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To: DocJhn

>>”You would not believe”>>>>

I live in Houston so I probably would believe it! :)


39 posted on 02/23/2014 12:57:35 PM PST by Ditter
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To: AlmaKing

I knew someone would.


40 posted on 02/23/2014 1:03:54 PM PST by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Ditter

Ah. Well, If I were going to be painted with a broad brush, I would rather be painted as a Texan rather than a NorthEasterner, that much I readily admit to.

But there are conservatives up here behind enemy lines.


41 posted on 02/23/2014 3:31:52 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Ditter

I am a she born in Texas and raised in California. Texan parents are who taught me not to broad brush.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 3:45:33 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

Well bless your heart.


43 posted on 02/23/2014 5:00:15 PM PST by Ditter
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To: William Tell

Thanks for informing me of how tough it is to be a farmer. I wouldn’t have known otherwise. Oh, wait, yes I was raised on a farm with peach, pear, plums, persimmon, and pecan trees, peanuts and cattle that were all sold at market. We had chickens and a garden for home use. I still have a garden and pecan for home use and had to replant the garden last spring three and four times which you can verify on the FR weekly garden thread.


44 posted on 02/23/2014 9:26:17 PM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

:)


45 posted on 02/24/2014 6:33:55 AM PST by Ditter
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