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Mercury News editorial: Concealed weapons permit decision could put Californians in danger
mercurynews.com ^ | 2/21/2014 | Mercury News Editorial

Posted on 02/23/2014 8:41:02 AM PST by rktman

If the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals' recent ruling striking down restrictions on concealed-carry gun permits is allowed to stand, California will become a more dangerous place.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
Rumor has it that hip waders are being brought in by the truckload due to all the impending blood that'll be running in the streets of California if the 9th circus ruling holds. Much like has occurred in other places once the "shall issue" ruling has come in to play. Oh, wait that's what DIDN'T happen.
1 posted on 02/23/2014 8:41:02 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

It will be a more dangerous place for criminals. That includes the politicians that have ruined that state.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 8:42:59 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: rktman

And herein is the reason we do not subscribe to the San Jose Murkey News.


3 posted on 02/23/2014 8:44:58 AM PST by super7man
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To: super7man

LOL! How many papers are not subscribed to because of their “fair and balanced” reporting? Used to be the old saying was “We don’t make the news, we just report it.” Long ago and far, far away.


4 posted on 02/23/2014 8:47:58 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: rktman

Criminals have carried and will continue to carry without approvals, permits and training for years and they’re worried that law abiding citizens might carry too?


5 posted on 02/23/2014 8:49:54 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: rktman
Lawmakers should begin looking at other ways to ensure fairness -- and at alternatives for protecting the public if a concealed-weapons permit is available to anyone who passes a background check and takes a safety course.

Makes no sense. requiring background checks and safety courses are common infringements -- but that's not enough to satisfy the gunphobes?

6 posted on 02/23/2014 8:50:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: umgud

Guess they didn’t/don’t know that it’s against the law. How stupid do they have to be to not understand that bad guys don’t give two dumps about the laws. ;>}


7 posted on 02/23/2014 8:51:47 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: unixfox

EXACTLY!California will become a SAFER place for law-abiding citizens;not so for PERPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 02/23/2014 8:51:59 AM PST by bandleader
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To: BenLurkin

For a Marxist Dictatorship to succeed there must be NO CHANCE of an armed uprising against it. Its as simple as that. IMHO Madame Guillotine WILL have her say.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 8:54:25 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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10 posted on 02/23/2014 8:56:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: rktman

In the 70’s I seem to recall many men walking with six shooters on their hips.

Ala Marty Robbins.....

Seemed pretty safe to me and I knew others carried under their clothing.

Didn’t strike me as odd at all and doesn’t concern me in the slightest.

It is thise people, with a criminal intent, who bother me.

That and loud rap music but, Eyez digress.....


11 posted on 02/23/2014 8:57:00 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: rktman

-—interesting group of comments after the article-—mostly shredding it-—


12 posted on 02/23/2014 8:57:47 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rktman

More dangerous for whom? Your beloved criminal class? Same ol’ crap, tell the big lie often enough and it becomes perceived as truth. What is a Mercury News, anyway, a Just-Us Department publication?


13 posted on 02/23/2014 9:02:10 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Don Corleone

Correct, the marxists in charge are fearful of the peons and surfs. I would be if I were them too.


14 posted on 02/23/2014 9:03:23 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: BenLurkin

Once a person has passed a background check to purchase a firearm, the next step should be to allow the Gun Store to issue a CWP. Why add another level of bureaucracy by then requiring someone to go to a Sheriff or Police Chief?


15 posted on 02/23/2014 9:03:58 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: unixfox

Yep. The Merc embarrasses itself by repeating the same old tired Trashcan claim: “He shudda just walk away!”


16 posted on 02/23/2014 9:05:58 AM PST by jiggyboy
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To: rktman

This one isn’t final. Given it’s the 9th, I fully expect an en banc hearing which may overrule the panel. Stay tuned.


17 posted on 02/23/2014 9:06:02 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: rktman

18 posted on 02/23/2014 9:07:30 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: rktman

The MSM will NEVER look critically at the stats between conceal carry states and those that ban it. It’s proven to reduce violent crime.


19 posted on 02/23/2014 9:08:31 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: rktman

Bookmark


20 posted on 02/23/2014 9:11:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rktman

There is no cure for the kind of stupidity suffered by the editors at the Mercury News.


21 posted on 02/23/2014 9:18:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: rktman

The Murky Nooz has supported every loonie piece of legislation this state’s leftist leninist brigades have ever proposed and passed.


22 posted on 02/23/2014 9:21:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: rktman
If the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals' recent ruling striking down restrictions on concealed-carry gun permits is allowed to stand, California will become a more dangerous place for Holders People, illegal alien criminals, Knockout gangs, and other Obama voters.


23 posted on 02/23/2014 9:25:13 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: rktman

They are far, far more in danger of:

1) being killed by a drunk driving illegal Mexican,
2) robbed by an illegal Mexican,
3) raped by an illegal Mexican,
4) have their identity stolen by an illegal Mexican,
5) have to wait at the emergency room for treatment because of an illegal Mexican,
6) their child’s education suffers because their teachers have to pander to illegal Mexicans’ children in their own language,
7) getting some heretofore extinct disease because of an illegal Mexican,
8) having their vote diluted because of an illegally voting illegal Mexican,
9) having to pay more taxes because of illegal Mexicans illegally and legally receiving entitlements.....

Need I go on?


24 posted on 02/23/2014 9:37:49 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: unixfox
"It will be a more dangerous place for criminals."

And tyrants.

25 posted on 02/23/2014 9:43:20 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: BenLurkin
Lawmakers should begin looking at other ways to ensure fairness

Yeah right. Sean Penn, notorious wife beater and prone to assault photographers, has a concealed weapons permit.

26 posted on 02/23/2014 9:43:59 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: rktman
This sort of legislation really is a slippery slope. The gun owners "compromise" on only a little restriction to keep the noisy happy, and all of a sudden the paradigm changes from doing what they've a specific right to do, to doing what the state allows them to do. At which point it is a natural inclination of the statists and the fearmongers to insist on more, more, more. That is why compromise on the issue is an illusion.

We aren't being "allowed" to do anything. There's no "allow" in this.

27 posted on 02/23/2014 9:51:07 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: RIghtwardHo

I almost hope they do, because as we speak literally millions seeking security and protection which are now only afforded to celebrities, the wealthy and politicians, are either in the process or planning on applying.

In CA government has gotten away unconstitutional civil rights violations and oppression for many years now while most other states recognize Americans right to protect themselves. Just as the wealthy well connected are now afforded.

I think they’re going to lose here this time even if this goes to SCOTUS. If not, they’re going to create an even greater tsunami of dissent and endless legal actions.


28 posted on 02/23/2014 9:53:08 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: martin_fierro

SV Ping.

Wish I subscribed, so I could cancel...


29 posted on 02/23/2014 10:00:10 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: rktman

the state of Flor took the lea in liberalizing it it in liberalizing it’s gun laws and at that time the left screamed bloody murder, saying that it would transform the the streets of florida into Boot Hill or the OK Corral.

Nothing like that of the sort ever happened.

We are now seeing history repeat itself.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 10:05:27 AM PST by gaijin
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To: rktman

The leftist have backed themselves into a corner...

Anyone interested here, I suggest they take 3 minutes and read what the oppressors have done to themselves....

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Want fewer guns on California streets? Open carry may be the answer.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-winkler-gun-control-open-carry-20140223,0,1849922.story#axzz2u7SI5x8J


31 posted on 02/23/2014 10:07:52 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rktman
FBI Study shows that as CCW increases, crime decreases.


32 posted on 02/23/2014 10:07:57 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: rktman

personally i am waiting for this ruling to impact illinois where i live. our ccw laws are even stricter than californias.

apologies for typos and all lower case, shattered my right elbow in a fall 2 days ago, typing is a bitch now and takes forever.


33 posted on 02/23/2014 10:12:07 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: rktman
Rumor has it that hip waders are being brought in by the truckload due to all the impending blood that'll be running in the streets of California

I know that is what happened here in Kansas when they passed CCW. That is why we are called a red state.

34 posted on 02/23/2014 10:13:42 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: rktman

Leftist newspaper editors use this same lie every time concealed carry is mentioned. The opposite has happened in every state, but they still tell the same lie. They have no shame, being RATS.


35 posted on 02/23/2014 10:48:15 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: usconservative

Frickin’ OUCH! Did you slip on some glow-bull warming?


36 posted on 02/23/2014 10:55:19 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: umgud
Criminals have carried and will continue to carry without approvals, permits and training for years and they’re worried that law abiding citizens might carry too?

Uh, otherwise law abiding citizens have been carrying without permits for years. They just hope they won't get caught. As you say, criminals do carry and continue to do so without worrying too much. From my own experience in San Francisco over the past few decades I've seen numerous handguns carried by regular decent citizens without permits; only a few politically connected persons (like Dianne Feinstein) had permits.

It's at the point where you see laws regularly ignored on the left (as in protections for illegal aliens etc.) that some laws are becoming meaningless and beg to be ignored in order to get by in life.

37 posted on 02/23/2014 12:14:50 PM PST by roadcat
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To: unixfox

As if those in a corrupt one-party state aren’t already in grave danger. Guess the Sacramento mafia doesn’t like competition.


38 posted on 02/23/2014 12:30:23 PM PST by DPMD
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To: rktman

Want fewer guns on California streets? Open carry may be the answer.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-winkler-gun-control-open-carry-20140223,0,1849922.story#axzz2u7SI5x8J

My fault here, as the LA Times won’t allow anyone to read this except those who pay or register. Don’t do that.

However, the title at the top of this editorial should give a hint as to how the leftist oppressors have legally backed themselves into a corner here.


39 posted on 02/23/2014 12:32:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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40 posted on 02/23/2014 12:34:10 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: dragnet2

The “hole” article was visible to me when I went to the link. You could, or I could, post the “hole” article here if it’s that pertinent. But basically the same old canard of blood filling the LA river if more LAW ABIDING citizens are “allowed” to CCW. Same old song and dance. Rodeo Drive shoot outs over parking places blah, blah, blah.


41 posted on 02/23/2014 1:01:40 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: rktman

i sure did, can i sue algore?

been one of the worst winters on record here. so much snow i havent seen my lawn since just after christmas.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 1:30:39 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

We’ve been reading and hearing about it. On the west side (not ALL the way west, one state shy of Cali but within 10 miles of the Ag station) we’re stuck on very limited moisture and not really all that cold this winter. In fact, the frickin’ lawn is starting to green up already and the 2 year old aspens we planted when we moved in are starting to bud. WTH? The forecasters are saying maybe some moisture middle and end of next week. If the politicos back east REALLY cared, they’d truck some of the excess snow out our way for free. LOL! Hope your elbow heals quickly.


43 posted on 02/23/2014 1:45:52 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme),unemployment will necessarily skyrocket! Despite the % dropping. Period.)
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To: rktman

Actually, it’s about they can’t have it both ways.


44 posted on 02/23/2014 6:02:17 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rktman

The only people who fear “shall issue” concealed carry permits are politicians, executive branch government agents, and criminals who could care less about your rule of law. Unfortunately, all three groups can be distilled down into just one group, owing to the fact that all three groups share a common goal, and agree on the tactics to achieve that goal.


45 posted on 02/24/2014 12:05:28 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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