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Millions Of Patients 'Unable To See GPs' (Great Britain...Obamacare's future?)
Sky News (U.K.) ^ | February 22, 2014 | Thomas Moore

Posted on 02/23/2014 9:29:36 AM PST by Stoat

More than 34 million patients will fail to get an appointment with their GP this year, according to figures seen by Sky News.

The Royal College of General Practitioners (RCGP) used official NHS statistics to estimate the number of patients who will be unable to see a GP or practice nurse because surgeries are too busy.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; england; greatbritain; healthcare; nationalhealth; nhs; obamacare; unitedkingdom; zerocare
It believes patients have to look after themselves, try again at a later date, or seek medical attention at walk-in centres or A&E. And it warns some conditions may get worse as a result.

The "miracle of Socialism" on display once again.  Sadly, Great Britain again provides Americans with a window to our own future, but far too many refuse to see the obvious path we're on.

 

British-American translation assistance: "A&E" is "Accident and Emergency", equivalent to the Emergency Department or ER of American hospitals.

1 posted on 02/23/2014 9:29:37 AM PST by Stoat
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To: Stoat

The Gov’t just needs to pass out the happy pills.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 9:31:17 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Stoat

Dang straight its our future...
elections have consequences and this one will be death nail to the Republic.
Freegards
LEX


3 posted on 02/23/2014 9:35:05 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Stoat

There are two types of single payer. In one, the gov’t doles out the services, the other, the gov’t has the private sector dole out the services. Neither seem to work well.

Which one are we headed toward?


4 posted on 02/23/2014 9:35:15 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

America won’t die...but there is another war inside our borders coming.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 9:38:17 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Stoat

The video showed the fattest doctor I have ever seen.

Man !

.


6 posted on 02/23/2014 9:40:35 AM PST by Mears
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To: Stoat
deport a few million goathumpers and problem solved... wait, nevermind
7 posted on 02/23/2014 9:41:46 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Stoat

The doctor in the video is really large...I prescribe diet and exercise.


8 posted on 02/23/2014 9:42:22 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Stoat
A sampling from the comments...all of them are well worth reading to see our future should conservatives not gain some measure of control in November.

When you book an appointment (hopefully) at our Practice you are only allowed to discuss one health problem in the 10 minute appointment. If you have a number of differing problems, then you would need a number of appointments, one for each problem. I know of a few people who could well be there all day ! Is it possible to get any dafter than this?

it took me 4 weeks to get an appointment even though I gave my symptoms on the phone everyday for 4 weeks when I did get to see the doctor he told my I had suffered a stroke

Over the past five years the British Pakistani community has swelled in our area beyond all comprehension ...., 80% of the waiting room were Asian patients on Friday, especially babies, they even have an Urdu desk at reception, the nurse at reception said that all Muslim patients must be granted an appointment within a week for religious reasons ....., and that we were not the only Indigenous Family to be reclassified as non-priority cases and turned down for any GP appointment requested.
9 posted on 02/23/2014 9:44:40 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Mears
The video showed the fattest doctor I have ever seen.

Man !

Indeed....not setting a very good example for his patients, is he?  Too many jellied eels, perhaps?   ;-)

 Jellied Eels photo JelliedEels_zps18541ec3.jpg

10 posted on 02/23/2014 9:47:14 AM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

No,,, that cant be right. I saw the British North Korean style Olympic display of the dancing doctor and the creepy baby.


11 posted on 02/23/2014 9:48:23 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“this one will be death nail to the Republic.”

let’s surrender and join the Dumocraps!


12 posted on 02/23/2014 9:55:19 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: LostInBayport

Horrifying & maddening. We aren’t so very far behind....I frequently have trouble maintaining any optimism that America can be spared the cancer of Socialism which lies at the root of this. Extremely dark times we’re in. “sigh”


13 posted on 02/23/2014 9:59:33 AM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“... death nail ...”
-
Or even a death knell...
or another nail in the coffin...
or whatever...


14 posted on 02/23/2014 10:04:29 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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15 posted on 02/23/2014 10:16:08 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Stoat

Every one possible of those 34 million need to on commercials for the upcoming elections. Every possibility. Drive the point home over and over again this is where we’re headed.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 10:32:32 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Stoat; LostInBayport; All
What you are not told about British National Health Service (NHS) healthcare:

My son has lived in the London area for 25 years. I know how their healthcare system works. You can be on the NHS plan OR you can buy private healthcare insurance.

There are hospitals for those who use NHS and SEPARATE hospitals for those with private policies. If you have a private policy, you see a doctor faster and if you have to be the hospital, you have a private room.

If you have NHS and wait a long time to see a doctor and then have to be in the hospital, you are placed in a ward with other patients in a NHS hospital for the masses.

My son's wife wanted them to have NHS free medical care as she, a liberal, wanted to be like the majority of people so he canceled the private policy. Then, she had a bleeding ulcer and had to be in the hospital in a ward for a number of days. She said she couldn't sleep with other patients being nosy and couldn't get the nurse to respond to her when she needed the nurse. She wanted him to go back to the private policy, so he did. She is a fake liberal, wants to be one of the common folk, however she went back to private insurance and the son is in a private school rather than being with the masses and their house is in an upscale neighborhood where people there are millionaires.

The point is, there are two ways to get healthcare in England - private AND National Health Service - which is private and private hospital or mass care and mass hospital.

17 posted on 02/23/2014 10:50:21 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Very informative, Marcella! I had read in the comments about the public/private distinction, but thought they were talking about insurance - not actual hospitals!

I wonder if that will naturally happen here...or if Obamacare/HHS/The Tyrant will regulate the private facilities into extinction. Probably not...after all, how would all of the other fake liberals (which is most of them) get quality health care? Like that one infamous moonbat said “I wanted everyone to have health care, I just didn’t think I would have to pay for it” the liberals want everyone to have the same quality of health care as long as they don’t have to be part of it.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 11:09:54 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Marcella; LostInBayport

Just to clarify - you don’t have to choose between private and NHS and are then stuck permanently with that choice. You’re free to use the NHS for some things and go private for other things. I (and many others) do this, and have done for many years. Many doctors work both for the NHS and for private practice, and also often hire NHS facilities for private work. The main advantage in private care, to be honest, is not so much the quality of the care but in the ability to ‘jump the queue’ for appointments, and the quality of the ‘hotel’ (as distinct from medical) facilities in a hospital if you need to be admitted.


19 posted on 02/23/2014 1:50:32 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy
Yes, I am aware you can go between private and mass care as they did that. Also aware doctors can have private patients as well as see the NHS patients. If you are private, you can get in to see the doctor without much wait. The others have to wait much longer.

The wife's mother had private insurance and had cancer so was in the private hospital for a while so she had a private room. She spoke to me when she was out of hospital and said she was so worried that daughter and my son had dropped the private insurance. I told her my son was going to change back to private and she was relieved.

We are going to see long lines here, too. Doctor after doctor are not accepting Obamacare policies. It won't be long before doctors are not allowed to reject those policies. Perhaps Hussein will just write another executive order and force doctors to take “his” patients.

20 posted on 02/23/2014 1:59:01 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: LostInBayport
When you book an appointment (hopefully) at our Practice you are only allowed to discuss one health problem in the 10 minute appointment.

I think Medicaid appointments are supposed to be like that in the U.S. But not a big deal if they know about the multiple codes in advance -- just book two or three appts back-to-back. Other times they just kind of ignore the requirement and change the appt schedule "after-the-fact".

21 posted on 02/23/2014 2:03:44 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Marcella
Do you have any feel for the private insurance premiums and deductibles/copays/OOP? In $ or £ or ₤? Or is it just fee-for-service?
22 posted on 02/23/2014 2:08:57 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86

No, but I can check with son and find out.


23 posted on 02/23/2014 2:26:15 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella; LostInBayport; All

The UK’s NHS is, in some ways, actually BETTER than Obamacare because it allows this choice of going to a private insurer (even though those who choose this option STILL are forced to pay NHS taxes). Obamacare FORCES people to change their existing insurance to plans they don’t want. Obamacare’s goal is to have NO OPTION outside of Obamacare. Then when Obamacare ultimately drives insurance companies into bankruptcy by forcing them to pay for preexisting conditions, the Gov’t can step in and take over the insurance carrier “to protect the Public Health”. So, in many ways Obamacare is actally FAR worse than what’s available in the UK but the NHS gives us a small window into “some” of what we have in our future.....the difference is that Obamacare will be a LOT worse.


24 posted on 02/23/2014 3:03:20 PM PST by Stoat (If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
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To: Stoat

I agree...Obamacare is worse. Without the option of private insurance, only the very wealthy will be able to make cash arrangements.

Those exempted from Obamacare will have no worries, of course.


25 posted on 02/23/2014 3:49:02 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Stoat
I agree that the private insurance option in England is better than Obamacare. I don't know how much private insurance costs in England but I'm sure it must be costly. I'll try to find out how costly by asking son in England.

Obamacare has no real option as all those Obamacare policies are garbage. People can't afford a $5,000 and up deductible for an illness and the premiums for any policy is too high for most people. I'm not speaking of Medicaid as that is a disaster and people won't get to see a doctor because doctors are dropping that like a hot potato. There will be so few doctors taking that one that the lines to see a doctor will be around the block.

26 posted on 02/23/2014 5:03:05 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: steve86; Marcella; LostInBayport; Stoat

The insurers offer a wide range of policies and a wide range of cover. Broadly speaking, however, the private industry concentrates on the common ‘elective’ procedures (ie those that aren’t an emergency and don’t require immediate treatment). Things like joint replacements etc. Also the insurers don’t attempt to compete with the primary health care service - the family doctor or general practitioner. it’s when you’re referred to a consultant or specialist that the private sector can step in. In fact the insurers will only pay for a consultant if you’re referred to that consultant by your (NHS) doctor.


27 posted on 02/24/2014 1:13:39 AM PST by Winniesboy
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