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Conservative Christians Selectively Apply Biblical Teachings in the Same-Sex Marriage Debate
Daily Beast ^ | 02/22/2014 | Kirsten Powers

Posted on 02/23/2014 11:31:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

“also been introduced in Ohio, Mississippi, Idaho, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Oklahoma.”

Where’s Utah and Alabama? Let’s get these on the books in every red state.


41 posted on 02/23/2014 1:02:30 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, Kirsten, but if I run a photography business, there’s no way on God’s green earth that I am going to be a hypocrite and snap pictures of two men or two women as if it’s acceptable.

Frankly, when I see two people of the same sex acting like they’re a couple, it makes me a little sick to my stomach. I should not be forced to partake.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 1:08:02 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: SeekAndFind

The Christians who have been threatened, sued, prosecuted, had business licenses suspended and other harassments HAVE SAID they would be willing to perform the service for an individual but not for homosexual marriage or for sleeping together.

The innkeeper in Hawaii would not rent a room to homosexuals because it violated their faith. I agree, faith in God would not allow in good conscience to rent a bed to a couple that is same-sex nor would it allow to rent a bed to a couple that are unmarried.

Homosexuals can steer clear of Christian businesses or Jewish businesses. They have plenty of secular businesses to contract with. They are only interested in equating themselves with the Black civil rights movement.

Businesses need only post a Christian or Jewish symbol to let homosexuals know not to ask for services that promote homosexuality or to let heterosexual unmarried couples know not to ask for services that promote fornication.

Whether one thinks this is backwards or discriminatory is not the issue, it is a line drawn in the sand that certain behaviors are not tolerated on the premises by reason of religious belief.

Homosexuals and prostitutes can find secular businesses to carry on their activities. There is no need to allow them to infringe on the rights of the faithful.


43 posted on 02/23/2014 1:09:00 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: SeekAndFind
Seems to me that the argument could be made along the lines of Paul's instructions about eating meat sacrificed to idols. Specifically, if the Christian doesn't know, then their conscience isn't violated.

I suppose that homosexuals could just request a cake that says "Congratulations Bob and John" and theoretically, that wouldn't be a violation of conscience, but in the details of these lawsuits, it seems that the "engaged" parties announce it directly.

44 posted on 02/23/2014 1:19:26 PM PST by The Grammarian
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To: SeekAndFind

(This is why the first line of analysis here has to be whether society really believes that baking a wedding cake or arranging flowers or taking pictures (or providing any other service) is an affirmation. er)

What else is it? The person (baker photog etc.) would not be there of their own accord. They would only be there because they are forced by the Government.


45 posted on 02/23/2014 1:27:46 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: JudyinCanada
it makes me a little sick to my stomach. I should not be forced to partake.

That's your/our ticket not to take part of it.

Bob and Bill, I can bake but seeing you two makes me sick to my stomach. So you will have no guarantee, I won't throw up a bit in the cake mixture. So go somewhere else where what they see doesn't have an effect on them.

46 posted on 02/23/2014 1:37:57 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus never helped a sinner sin and neither should Christians.


47 posted on 02/23/2014 1:40:23 PM PST by RginTN
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To: SeekAndFind

This is either the home the brave and the land of the free, or it is not. If I have a business and do not wish to serve someone for whatever reason, that, in my opinion, ends the matter, period.


48 posted on 02/23/2014 1:41:23 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s exactly what I was thinking!


49 posted on 02/23/2014 1:54:51 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: SeekAndFind
So if christians are inconsistent, her argument is that they should let everything slide including gay marriage. Gay marriage is complete rebellion against what God has ordained. It is a case of shaking your fist at God, and saying "see and and what are you going to do about it". Knowingly providing services for such an occasion, could be felt by many christians as sanctioning that occasion.

If a bunch of people created a golden calf and worshiped it, and asked a christian caterer to provide and staff the event, there will be many christians who would balk at that.

50 posted on 02/23/2014 2:22:18 PM PST by Moorings
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To: SeekAndFind

When I owned my Automotive Business, and someone came in and wanted to write a check and their checks had previously bounced I told them I would not accept a check from them, cash only. Also if I did not want to do work for someone I was not comfortable with, my calendar was booked. So was that wrong??? I was picking and choosing who I would do business with.


51 posted on 02/23/2014 2:51:39 PM PST by easternsky
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To: SeekAndFind
You know, all this parsing by the libs wouldn't mean anything if people would just acknowledge and adopt the Noachide Laws. There wouldn't even be an excuse to say "well, that's how you interpret it" because there is an official interpretation.

Unfortunately no one will even consider this. Most FReepers seem committed to chrstianity primarily because it is "the American religion" rather than because it is objectively true.

52 posted on 02/23/2014 2:59:15 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the government needs to be removed from marriage. I also believe you have the right to refuse service for any reason because we are free people, whether or not it is ethically right, all people should have the freedom to deny service, its free market.


53 posted on 02/23/2014 3:33:29 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: SeekAndFind

If the authors premise is that Christians are already violating scripture by serving people engaged in bigamy, then how is violating scripture again a remedy?


54 posted on 02/23/2014 3:55:21 PM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: SeekAndFind

So much for freedom. Government should not have the power to tell any person or private entity how to live or with whom to associate. Period.


55 posted on 02/23/2014 5:15:19 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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56 posted on 02/23/2014 6:06:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Former Fetus
People tend to over think this thing a lot.

If I am asked to give a package to someone I don't tear it open to make sure I am not giving them anything illegal, immoral or fattening.

But if someone hands me a package and tells me that it is half pound of cocaine and a copy of "The Audacity of Hope" then I can rightly decide that I would prefer not be involved thank you.

57 posted on 02/23/2014 7:02:15 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: GeronL

Where have you been the last 50 years? Seems like every day is Divorce Pride Day in the USSA. When the Sexual Revolution started people who wanted to get divorced were “in your face” about it; the reason they aren’t demanding affirmation anymore is because they won that battle long ago. Try suggesting to a divorced person that no-fault divorce should be repealed and they probably will call you a bigot or a trogolydite.

If anything affirming divorce is far worse for the sanctity of marriage than affirming homosexuality because there are more divorced people than there are homosexuals. At the end of the day homosexuals are just a small, though vocal, minority.


58 posted on 02/23/2014 8:08:20 PM PST by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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