Skip to comments.‘Star Trek’ Actor Promises Trouble for Arizona If Gov. Signs What He Calls ‘Turn Away the Gay’ Bill
Posted on 02/23/2014 12:54:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Well, before I start getting Medieval on George Takai, I’m going to consider something. Back around 1942, FDR, by executive order, threw George (a child) and his family into an internment facility for the crime of being Japanese. I’m forgiving him a lot of crap for that. OTOH, I’m not listening to him on this one.
But he has one of the funniest FB pages out there.
These homos just cant stand the fact that most of America is not embracing their sick sick, perverted, immoral, disgusting behavior..its driving them nuts..come on Star Trek freak, bring it on..no one is afraid of that imbecile
It seems we should be spending less time reacting to other people's lifestyles. I wish gays would just SHUT UP about their preferences. But refusing to sell them a service? I'm a minority of one here. It's not something that the law should support.
This is all just a major effort to force people to accept their lifestyle as normal even though it goes against the faith of the people. That is why they first turned gay-ness into some kind of natural characteristic like skin color. Then their next step is to force people to accept gay behavior as natural, and if not it is a civil rights issue.
Of course it’s discriminating. But there is nothing intrinsically wrong with discriminating, and even when I think there is something wrong with it, that doesn’t make it the state’s business.
That's my point. This wasn't his ancestors. This was him. He was in the internment camps. It's personal.
It just annoys me that all the little Trekkie geeks will blindly follow him, *just because*.
If Alice suddenly went homo and started spewing queer/liberal agenda, I’d cut him loose so fast my head would spin.
Loyalty is good.
Blind loyalty is stupid.
So you’re a veterinarian, and the local bestiality house (coming to your neighborhood soon) wants to hire you to care for their animals ...
The dividing line for me is this: will this work involve personal effort and creativity to support that individual customer's ceremony, where the ceremony itself is something the business owner finds to be abhorrent?
The canonical example is one that impacts me personally: right now, wedding photographers can be forced to have to work an entire exhausting day (plus another week for review and editing) for gay marriages. The courts in New Mexico have actually ruled on this.
Are you saying that if I hang my shingle out as a wedding photographer, that I should be forced to work a week in extensive, exhaustive, and creative support of celebrating gay marriage? That is tyranny.
As a tiny child. Are you saying there are lasting effects from things that happen to such a young child who is basically unaware of being interned? I could see your point if he’d been a teen or adult.
That is until the nudist lobby gets the same political clout the homosexual lobby has. They were born that way, after all. Why should a business owner have the right to refuse their services to a nudist?
Businesses are properties, and property rights are one of the fundamental building blocks of personal liberty. Suppose you own a Christian bookstore and a group of Pentagram wearing Satanists come in to your store laughing and giggling about how they plan to desecrate a Bible. Should you be compelled to sell them one?
All sales, even an over the counter purchase of a pack of chewing gum, are contracts, and a fundamental basic of contract law is that both parties enter into it voluntarily. Once you compel one party to participate, that fundamentally undermines the whole nature of business, and as others have alluded to in this post, is really no different, philosophically speaking, than slavery.
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You missed the point and it’s important people like yourself get it right.
A florist in Washington State was prosecuted early last year for refusing to make wedding floral arrangements for a homosexual ‘wedding’. So she knew from the gitgo who her customer was.
It’s also important to note that she said she would be happy to make floral arrangements for these homosexuals but not for an event that violated her faith and conscience.
She explained clearly that making a floral arrangement is a product of art, that when she made such arrangements she put her passion into the art and thought of the event as she worked. For her to think of something clearly perverted against her faith while making a work of art left her feeling violated and unable to think it was for the good of the business or its homosexual ‘wedding’ customers.
So she refused but referenced other florists that she thought would accommodate the homosexuals. And she repeated that her floral arrangements and services would be available for any other purpose except those associated with homosexual ‘marriage’ or its celebrating events such as engagements or anniveraries.
The B&B owner in Hawaii refused service because of religious beliefs. When two men requested a king size bed to spend their ‘honeymoon’ as newlyweds, again it’s clear who they are. For a person faithful to God to think they are renting a bed to a couple that will commit acts that are an abomination to all things holy leaves a feeling of sickness and immorality. There are plenty of hotels and inns that will take such people. It need not be forced on private inns.
And refusing rooms to certain characters is not unusual. If an inn allows a pimp to house his girls, the inn becomes a brothel. If drug dealers are allowed to use motel rooms as offices, then the motel becomes a center for illegal drugs. And if homosexuals are allowed to spend their ‘honeymoons’ in private inns, then the inn becomes associated with perversity and immorality. Such damage to reputation will turn traditional couples and families away, all forced by coercion to appease less than 2% of the population.
For a moment I thought you were talking about the snake.
Yeah, well....him too!
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