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Governors: 'Obamacare' here to stay
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 2/23/14 | Ken Thomas (AP)

Posted on 02/23/2014 3:52:21 PM PST by madprof98

WASHINGTON — The explosive politics of health care have divided the nation, but America's governors, Republicans and Democrats alike, suggest that President Barack Obama's health care overhaul is here to stay.

While governors from Connecticut to Louisiana sparred on Sunday over how best to improve the nation's economy, governors of both parties shared a far more pragmatic outlook on the controversial program known as "Obamacare" as millions of their constituents begin to be covered.

"We're just trying to make the best of a bad situation," Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, of Iowa, who calls the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable," yet something he has to implement by law. "We're trying to make it work as best we can for the people of Iowa."

(Excerpt) Read more at ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: Iowa; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; aca; connecticut; deathpanels; gopestablishment; iowa; liberalgop; louisiana; obamacare; rga; rinos; terrybranstad; zerocare
Another "settled law" settles in . . .
1 posted on 02/23/2014 3:52:21 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98

Yup. we are stuck with this beast as long as our elected officials do nothing about it.

We are planing on relocating from MN soon. I am kinda waiting for the first state to pass the “GFY Obama law” that tells zero where to stick The Un-affordable Care Act.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 3:54:50 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: madprof98

I disagree with this newspaper……….they more people are hurt by obummercare, the more agitated they will become.


3 posted on 02/23/2014 3:55:20 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: madprof98
...governors of both parties shared a far more pragmatic outlook on the controversial program known as "Obamacare" as millions of their constituents begin to be covered.

Millions? They must have been smoking some of that new 'recreational' medical marijuana." LOL! Fools!

4 posted on 02/23/2014 3:58:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Communism kills!!!)
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To: madprof98

B/S. If ObamaCare lives, the constitution dies.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 4:00:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

And that was the entire point.


6 posted on 02/23/2014 4:00:51 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think we are closer to that than the people who care realize . . . because not a lot of people apparently care.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 4:04:01 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, of Iowa, who calls the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable,"

How can something unsustainable be "Here to stay"? Who writes this garbage?


8 posted on 02/23/2014 4:04:31 PM PST by 867V309 (Obammy = LIAR)
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To: madprof98

If the Urinal-Constipation says so -— it must be true.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 4:05:19 PM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: madprof98

Many years ago, I told my “Repub no matter what” father that when (not if) we got saddled with socialized medicine, we’d have the GOP to thank for it. “They won’t be able to say no!” I insisted. Being right stinks sometimes.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 4:06:30 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: madprof98

Well it looks like we have to get use to the noose around our necks, he sez. These defeatist spineless cowards who fold like cheap cameras


11 posted on 02/23/2014 4:08:10 PM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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To: cableguymn
"We're just trying to make the bestgain as much power as we can out of a bad situation," Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, of Iowa, who calls the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable," yet something he has to implement by law. "We're trying to make it work as best we can for the people of Iowa."political class

FIXED!

12 posted on 02/23/2014 4:09:29 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Amagi
If the Urinal-Constipation says so -— it must be true.

Which leads me to say that the title of the article is misleading.

13 posted on 02/23/2014 4:09:31 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: workerbee

Yup. Iowa.. you have a problem!


14 posted on 02/23/2014 4:11:39 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: madprof98

Rotten headline.
First quote is “unaffordable and unsustainable”??? is that not the DEFINITION of “changes to come”??


15 posted on 02/23/2014 4:14:17 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: madprof98

Which version of Obamacare do they mean?
It must be the “living & breathing” one.
So now, laws mean nothing; we only have selective enforcement by a despotic regime.
It is evident that the Federal government has lost any moral claim on its laws. As citizens, we must recognize this reality, and wherever possible, resist and thwart the Federal government, its agents and supporters.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 4:25:29 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: madprof98; EternalVigilance

You’re Terry’s opponent, EV. Time to hammer him over the head with this something fierce.


17 posted on 02/23/2014 4:29:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: madprof98

If you are not ending ObamaCare...you are supporting ObamaCare


18 posted on 02/23/2014 4:33:18 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Diversity is just racism against white folks)
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To: madprof98

No NO no and NO! The Tea Party has not and will not throw in the tea-towel of surrender. No, O-Care is unacceptable. Move aside, you lazy losers!


19 posted on 02/23/2014 4:41:20 PM PST by lee martell
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To: madprof98

Here to stay? For some , but for myself...

I will not comply.

F U B O!


20 posted on 02/23/2014 4:42:22 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: madprof98

The Uniparty.


21 posted on 02/23/2014 4:43:20 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: madprof98
Traditional MARRIAGE is settled law, you morons...NOT socialized medicine!
22 posted on 02/23/2014 4:55:30 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: madprof98
These Republicans are complete chicken-s--t sellouts.

I read in USA Today (free in the breakroom at work, I would never pay to read that rag) how the Republican Party is going to use .gop as a domain. What clueless, effing morons. Do they not realize that people are live-blogging on their phones and posting updates to Facebook and Twitter? What future candidates are going to pay the GOP to have their website on their domain?

23 posted on 02/23/2014 4:58:29 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: cableguymn

Well at least the articles gives us a good list of politicians too oust


24 posted on 02/23/2014 4:59:30 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: madprof98

So, when’s the March on D.C. and every state capitol in the union to really settle this, because it’s obvious that the political class thinks Obamacare is irreversable the same way that they think Obama is unimpeachable.


25 posted on 02/23/2014 5:35:34 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: madprof98
Urinal/Constipation Agit Prop!

...Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, of Iowa, who calls the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable,"

Unsustainable, by definition, means it ISN'T "here to stay".....

Nazism and fascism wasn't "HERE TO STAY", it was an evil that had to be recognized until it could be REMOVED.

So it is with Hussein's Death Panel Law.

26 posted on 02/23/2014 5:43:49 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: madprof98; All
... Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, of Iowa, who calls the health care law "unaffordable and unsustainable," yet something he has to implement by law (emphasis added).

With all due respect to the governor and his parents, the consequence of Gov. Branstad's parents evidently not making sure that Gov. Branstand was taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers when he was growing up is the following. Gov. Brandstand does not understand that the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution's silence about things like public healthcare means that government power to regulate, tax and spend for healthcare purposes is automatically reserved uniquely to the states, not the federal government.

In fact, the Supreme Court has officially clarified that the states have never granted to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for public healthcare purposes.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. (emphases added)” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Also, Judge Andrew Napolitano will read Congress's Article I, Section 8-limited powers to freepers in three minutes, noting that those clauses don't the power to establish a national healthcare program.

Judge Napolitano & the Constitution

Patriots need to wake up their state government leaders concerning constitutionally indefensible federal Obamacare Democratcare.

27 posted on 02/23/2014 5:50:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: SoFloFreeper
Doesn't have to be here to stay.

Once Obama is out and you get the House, Senate and Presidency they can dissolve it.

Let this go for 20 years when nobody will remember what private insurance was and how well it worked and you will get a problem.

28 posted on 02/23/2014 5:56:19 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: madprof98

Bull.


29 posted on 02/23/2014 5:59:48 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Amendment10

That’s just the problem.

Even when ‘conservatives’ are elected, there’s no certainty that they understand or accept the limitations of the Constitution.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 6:03:20 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: madprof98

I hear its cheaper and becoming better in Costa Rica, plus its cheaper to live there.
Has my interest.


31 posted on 02/23/2014 6:03:59 PM PST by Spartan302
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To: jjotto; All
Even when ‘conservatives’ are elected, there’s no certainty that they understand or accept the limitations of the Constitution.

With all due respect to the voters, state government "leaders" are probably as constitutionally clueless as the voters who elected them are.

32 posted on 02/23/2014 6:18:30 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: madprof98
"We're just trying to make the best of a bad situation," Republican Gov. Terry Branstad, of Iowa

Might as well call him Governor Braindead ...

33 posted on 02/23/2014 6:38:56 PM PST by mikrofon (Founders BUMP)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I am.


34 posted on 02/23/2014 7:51:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: fieldmarshaldj

http://www.tomhoefling.com/8/post/2014/02/governors-obamacare-here-to-stay-terry-branstad-quoted.html


35 posted on 02/23/2014 8:02:28 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: cableguymn

......my next door neighbors are from Minnesota. We all live west of Austin. So, come on down.

They are GREAT neighbors by the way.


36 posted on 02/23/2014 8:15:34 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: madprof98

.......I think it is the height of arrogance for Ken Thomas to proport to know what is going to happen with Obamacare.

Nobody knows and that is a fact. ONE of many reasons nobody knows is 17 trillion in debt which is really 100 million in debt and nobody really knows the outer limit of that either because contingent liabilities and GAAP don’t work together well.

The single biggest transfer of political power in American History is about to happen this year. I suggest Mr. Thomas shut up until we see how many Rino’s and Democrats we are able to get rid of. Some may be surprised at the number including our ever present doomsday swearing freepers.

289 good conservatives in the house and 67 Senators equals retirement time for Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Biden and Jarrett too!....with hopefully some prosecutions to follow.


37 posted on 02/23/2014 8:26:52 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Oh, they know what they’re doing. They never really sold out if they actually backed this from the beginning; they’re deceivers.


38 posted on 02/23/2014 8:48:34 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Cen-Tejas

Friend posted a city sign on FB today. Coffee City... just happens to be in TX on a lake..

a lake for me is a must.

we are planing a trip down south to tour areas we’d like to take our money to.

I do contract IT work and structured cabling. So I need to be near a larger metro area. Something Coffee city seems to lack :(


39 posted on 02/23/2014 9:34:30 PM PST by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: madprof98

Governor Branstad certainly did not say that Obamacare was “here to stay.”


40 posted on 02/24/2014 12:11:22 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: A CA Guy

YES


41 posted on 02/24/2014 2:38:28 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: cableguymn

Don’t know of a Coffee City in Texas.

You will love life in Texas if it is in your exploratory trip itinerary.

Small towns next door to large towns has worked for me as you get the best of both worlds. Does involve extra driving and time on the road but with smart phones the extra time does not have to be wasted.


42 posted on 02/24/2014 6:58:42 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If ObamaCare lives, the constitution dies.

Dies? Okay, at best, the fat lady is warming up off stage, awaiting her cue.

But, I tend to agree with Mark Levin: we're already living in post-Constitutional America. The fat lady is already singing the second or third verse.

Chief Effin' Justice John Roberts is living proof that the Constitution doesn't mean SQUAT. For much too long now, any five robed elite intellectual giants (e.g. Ruth Bader Ginsberg or Sonia "The Wise Latina" Sotomayor?!) have FREE REIN to declare the Constitution says whatever THEY want it to say. NO ONE upholds the oath to defend the Constitution against its domestic enemies. And, given the risk vs. reward of doing so, why should they?

So, the Constitution is clearly irrelevant (i.e. DEAD) until Congress steps up and acts in accordance with its sworn duty. Anybody see that happening? Hah. No way. They're too comfortable.

And I gave up on "We The People" when O'Bunghole won reelection. Oh, sure, give the GOPe a majority in the Senate, even the White House, and you might slow this down a bit. But, reversing course won't happen without bloodshed. And we can't have that, can we? Nah, we're not only too comfortable, we're much too civilized.

<rant OFF>

43 posted on 02/24/2014 11:29:12 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: madprof98

This doesn’t represent a majority of state governors, does it? The AP is just as apt to poison a headline as the Manchester Guardian.


44 posted on 02/24/2014 5:49:24 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: fieldmarshaldj

http://www.radioiowa.com/2014/02/24/third-party-presidential-candidate-in-2012-plots-14-primary-challenge-of-branstad/


45 posted on 02/24/2014 7:30:46 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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