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20 million more Americans could lose insurance
WND ^ | 2/23/14 | Greg Corombos

Posted on 02/23/2014 4:26:19 PM PST by Libloather

**SNIP**

Much like individual policyholders last year, small group plan holders are discovering their plans don’t qualify for being grandfathered, despite the famed assurance that if they liked their plans they could keep them.

“If you had your plan prior to March 2010 when Obamacare became law, it was supposed to be grandfathered in. You were supposed to keep it, but the Department of Labor came out with these grandfather regulations. It’s almost like telling a guy you can keep walking on the beach as long as you don’t get any sand on your feet. It’s almost impossible not to violate,” said National Center for Public Policy Research health-care analyst Dr. David Hogberg.

“If one of your co-pays goes up $10 over one year, your plan is no longer grandfathered. If the co-insurance you pay for a procedure was at 15 percent and they moved it up to 16 percent, it is no longer grandfathered,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; insurance; million; obamacare
No one really knows what the rules are. Just pay up.
1 posted on 02/23/2014 4:26:19 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

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2 posted on 02/23/2014 4:51:36 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Libloather; All
"No one really knows what the rules are.
Just pay up."


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3 posted on 02/23/2014 4:55:48 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Taxman

Perfect!!


4 posted on 02/23/2014 4:58:23 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m SHOCKED ! I tell you.........SHOCKED!

Whoever could have anticipated THIS???
I’m SHOCKED AND AMAZED! Leftist re-engineering gone Kerploof? Never!

(and, now that’s in the news, Obama must be aware of this latest turn of events.)


5 posted on 02/23/2014 5:02:35 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Libloather

So, what’s the current Obamacare body count?


6 posted on 02/23/2014 6:01:35 PM PST by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Libloather
"20 million more Americans could lose become liberated and free from evil insurance companies."

... there .... now it doesn't sound so negative does it.

7 posted on 02/23/2014 6:02:06 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Libloather

And their jobs


8 posted on 02/23/2014 6:09:27 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Glad you liked it. I thought it most appropriate.

If only what Ophonybama and his LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist thugs are doing to us WAS ONLY a game!


9 posted on 02/23/2014 6:15:15 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Libloather
My ex's coverage got canceled the day after Odouchecare became the law of the land. The two children covered under that are type 1 diabetics.

The way I see it, Obama made it illegal to offer a policy that did not cover everything that his did. So my ex's policy became illegal because it wasn't "good" enough.

I wondered why all these insurance companies did not see this coming and fight it. Why would they be willing to lose all this money by canceled policies which means no more premiums? Then I realized that they are the same companies on the exchanges, only charging MORE than they did before, hence their silence.

Do I have this right?

10 posted on 02/23/2014 6:17:36 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Libloather
This was known by the Senate, the House and MSM since June, 2010.

Fed Register/Vol. 75, No. 116/Thu, June 17, 2010/ 34553 (10s of millions will lose empl insurance)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088618/posts

11 posted on 02/23/2014 6:33:43 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Libloather

There are no rules as long as the Gestapo Obamanation continues to intimidate the doormat Congressional RINOs.


12 posted on 02/23/2014 7:54:39 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Libloather
20 million ALL more Americans could lose insurance
13 posted on 02/23/2014 8:31:41 PM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Taxman

Perfect!


14 posted on 02/23/2014 8:34:45 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Yes, I rather thought so.

A more than adequate description of everything that has transpired in Washington, DC since January, 2008, wouldn’t you say?


15 posted on 02/23/2014 8:59:33 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Libloather
The idea isn't for everybody to get health insurance. The idea is for everybody to get screwed and demand single payer.

The Plan is working great.

16 posted on 02/23/2014 9:04:28 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: Lizavetta
Then I realized that they are the same companies on the exchanges, only charging MORE than they did before

Not only that, but Obamacare guarantees they win even if they lose (if the insurance companies are having trouble collecting premiums, or not enough people sign up, or they have to pay out too much in claims due to sick policyholders, the "risk corridor" provision ensures the taxpayers will bail them out). No need to feel sorry for the insurance companies. They got exactly what they wanted.

17 posted on 02/23/2014 9:09:14 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Libloather

Repeat after me:

Obamacare was never meant to help the little guy.


18 posted on 02/24/2014 5:03:51 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Lizavetta

You can blame the insurance companies for this mess. That’s what Obama and our politicians want you to do.


19 posted on 02/24/2014 5:07:54 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Lizavetta

I think the insurance companies saw plan A and plan B. Plan B was single-payer, and their entire empire would dissolve with it. Same with HMOs, hospitals, drug companies, etc. So, stick with loser plan A.

So, here’s the entire game...come July...there’s going to be the next release of rates for the new year of 2015. With so few signed up....the general expectation is the rate will go up by twenty percent or more.

Your peers, neighbors and friends...are fairly hostile now with the high deductible ($5k to $7k) and the monthly insurance cost of $700-$1200. Figure another $150 a month minimum for 2015.

How many folks will add this up and realize that they are contributing $14,000 a year between the deductible and monthly cost? I’d take a guess that ten million with insurance this year....will leave by 1 January 2015 because of the incredible rate issue.

But wait....the avalanche isn’t over...that group will trigger the July 2015 rate examination....to go up another $150 for January of 2016. So, there’s probably another ten to fifteen million who will quit then.

By the end of the President’s eight years...there will be twice as many without health insurance....as the day he walked into office, and our media will stand there....wondering what this whole gimmick was about and how to explain that we need to FIX the whole thing over again.

You will sit there and ask yourself...with all the gimmicks of Fix version 1.....what will be the deal for health care fix version 2? Yes, the real game has yet to start....that’s the sad part about this story.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 4:17:35 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Gritty

“..and demand single payer.”

I’ll take it to the final step. It isn’t about the government controlling health insurance - it’s about them controlling Health CARE.


21 posted on 02/25/2014 4:30:25 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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