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Faces of the Boom: Nurses from Philippines give boost to Oil Patch health care
The Fargo-Moorhead Forum ^ | February 23, 2014 | Amy Dalrymple

Posted on 02/23/2014 5:07:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Lucy Meg Quinit, pictured Friday at Trinity Health in Minot, is one of a group of 86 nurses from the Philippines recruited to work in Minot.

MINOT, N.D. – Filipino nurse Lucy Meg Quinit thought she and her family would miss home more as they adjust to a new life in North Dakota.

But Quinit is among more than 80 nurses from the Philippines that Trinity Health in Minot has recently hired, and the new recruits have formed their own support community.

“That’s one of the reasons we’re not getting so homesick,” said Quinit, who has worked for Trinity Health for one year.

International recruitment is one way Trinity Health has responded to western North Dakota’s oil development, which has increased patient loads in Minot while making it more difficult to retain staff.

“The oil boom has really, really had a tremendous effect on health care in general,” said Barbara Brown, Trinity’s chief nursing officer.

Trinity Health, a regional trauma center with a service area of 20 counties, continues to hire nursing graduates from local colleges and universities, as well as around the country, and has no problem getting applicants, Brown said.

But the high cost of living in Minot makes it difficult to attract and retain staff, and many hires from elsewhere in the country choose to move closer to family after they gain experience, Brown said.

Trinity Health responded by developing a recruitment plan, which included traveling to the Philippines about two years ago and interviewing more than 150 nurses, Brown said. During that trip, they hired 86 Filipino nurses, and they continue to conduct interviews via Skype when they have a qualified applicant, she said.

For Quinit, a native of Cebu City, the opportunity to work in the U.S. was something she wanted for years so she could have access to better opportunities.

“Nurses there are really paid so low,” said Quinit, 42.

Quinit moved to Minot about a year ago, and her husband, Dexter, and their sons Darren, 6, and David, 2, joined her after they completed the school year there and she had found an apartment.

Quinit works weekdays in Trinity’s podiatry clinic and her husband works nights and weekends for Trinity as a central processing technician, a schedule that allows one parent to always be with the boys.

In the winter, Darren has questioned why his mom would choose to move them to such a cold city, but he likes his school so much he wishes he could go to kindergarten on weekends.

“It wasn’t hard for him to adjust. He loved it right away,” Quinit said.

Most of the other Filipino nurses also have their families in Minot and they get together for birthday parties and holidays. They use technology to keep in touch with family back home.

“I still get to talk to them almost every day, if not every day,” Quinit said.

Trinity is now considering recruiting nurses from Canada as well, Brown said.

“I think we have to,” Brown said. “We have to continually look at all the different opportunities we might have because we’re not the only ones. Everyone’s struggling to make sure they have people.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: energy; northdakota; oil; philippines
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1 posted on 02/23/2014 5:07:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A rolling nurse gathers no boss.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 5:14:23 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m thinking of getting a job with the oil companies in North Dakota, the ones Sean Hannity is interviewing on his talk show. My Filipina wife doesn’t want to go there because it’s so cold, but maybe she will like the place after all.


3 posted on 02/23/2014 5:16:20 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Filipino potlucks are the best - Lumpia, adobo, mmmmm.


4 posted on 02/23/2014 5:20:07 PM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Having 20+ years of experience in health care I'm of the opinion that nurses trained in certain countries,the Philippines included,aren't as well trained as those of other countries...US/Canada/Britain/Ireland,etc.The nurse shortage in the US seems to have eased but particularly where the need is greatest one can argue that skilled nurses should be paid more than they're getting.
5 posted on 02/23/2014 5:26:59 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doing (more) jobs Americans won’t do ??


6 posted on 02/23/2014 5:28:35 PM PST by llevrok (F the government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Years ago you saw blue collar jobs go away as manufacturing was sent overseas to low wage countries.

Today, big corporation and government even, see the cheap pool of professionals in places like India as a low cost alternative they can bring to the US in those white collar jobs that can’t be offshored. Things like the H1B visa are grossly misused to this end, but since big corporate America was the one behind formulating the legal verbiage of some of these rules, it’s all legal and government itself plays this game!

40 years ago the goal was to build a factory in the Philippines to build a widget. Today the goal is to get a Philippine or an Indian engineer to come to the US and work for $40,000 a year in a white collar job.


7 posted on 02/23/2014 5:31:44 PM PST by Red6
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To: llevrok

The article says there was a shortage.


8 posted on 02/23/2014 5:31:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re all hunting for rich dumb American husbands - the nursing thing is just the way in.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 5:32:02 PM PST by Argus
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To: llevrok

They certainly don’t stay in the job long. My supervisor in a technical firm was an LVN. You bet your sweet bedpan.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 5:32:32 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Argus

In most cases, thats true.
On the other hand, the American husband is probably getting a very good deal in a wife. (YMMV, but odds of a good wife are better than with the native talent)
Net plus for the US.


11 posted on 02/23/2014 5:36:43 PM PST by buwaya
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s only one good answer to the high costs of the medical rackets.


12 posted on 02/23/2014 5:40:06 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Red6

When the majority of college kids here won’t study engineering, the sciences, mathematics, medicine, nursing and the like, what is one to do? Go without? Do you truly believe that most employers in this country would rather hire an Indian, Pakistani, Filipino or Chinese worker over an American? Or is it that there is an inadequate supply of US workers to fill those slots?


13 posted on 02/23/2014 5:47:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Having 20+ years of experience in health care I'm of the opinion that nurses trained in certain countries,the Philippines included,aren't as well trained as those of other countries"

True, but how scientific does a nurse have to be?

They generally operate under the direction of a doctor and only a few are allowed to act in advance of direction, and only after the doctor learns to trust them.

99% of nursing is the basics. Take temps, give shots, report status and assist as directed.

I guess I should say that's my completely ignorant opinion:)

14 posted on 02/23/2014 5:47:26 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Berosus

Use job service of Nd also craigslist.
Some companies have housing look for them if you wanna break in and areshort on cash.
The winter continues, one guy came here on a wing and a prayer
They amputated his legs for being so stupid.
Things should begin to pick up in the construction trades in April
The drillng rig are lookin to hire also are the pulling units or workover rigs if you prefer. Drilling rigs will have housing


15 posted on 02/23/2014 5:49:08 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: buwaya

My father-in-law’s second wife was a Filipina nurse and a greedy, parasitic nightmare.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 5:52:29 PM PST by Argus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

regarding immigration:

I think this type of immigration should be enabled unlike the uncontrolled mexican immigration.

And it is not about color, mexican nurses are also welcome.

It is the vast amounts of uncontrolled and often unskilled labor that is the problem.

We need a canadian style immigration system which is wholly color blind but focuses on skills, health, age, education, etc.


17 posted on 02/23/2014 5:52:49 PM PST by staytrue
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To: llevrok

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh6OLUPSHyE

It’s the same thing that happened years ago to manufacturing in the US and the blue collar jobs. Today, it’s simply the white collar jobs that are targeted in the US itself.

I use to work as a PM at a major IT firm and I saw this first hand. It’s a big game where business knows the rules (which they helped write) and as long as they go through certain motions they can import engineers, nurses, PhDs, MDs, programmers etc at a rate ~ $15,000 per year, per person below hiring an American. Today, we are bringing thousands under the guise that there are no Americans willing to do the job or that there is a lack in technical skills, but this is all a lie. It’s merely a game where these businesses know what they have to do and say to appear as if they tried hiring and finding qualified people in the US. This, all while they actually don’t want to hire anyone and then fall back onto bringing someone into the US that not only makes a lot less, but also will lose his ability to stay here if he screws up or isn’t willing to do “whatever” they want (he’s a near slave to his employer). This is merely a bottom line driven issue where a substitute labor supply is used that targets the white collar professionals.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 5:55:59 PM PST by Red6
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To: Berosus

I’m in the Alberta oil patch as an electrician. It’s great. Where else can you contract out yourself with your truck, make over 200k a year easy and have a decent lifestyle. Those places are getting few and far between. I wouldn’t recommend roughneck or anything though, work is very hard on the body. I say work with the brain not the brawn heh.


19 posted on 02/23/2014 5:56:07 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having spent the last year trying to get help with multiple health issues the cultural, language and inferior educations of all foreign medical personnel jeapordize our very lives with some notable exceptions.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 5:57:08 PM PST by amihow
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To: Argus

They typically make great wives, they’re still raised old school.


21 posted on 02/23/2014 5:57:58 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: amihow

Don’t tell that to the US Department of Veteran’s Affairs (fka the Veteran’s Administration) as I haven’t had an American-born physician since the early 1980’s.


22 posted on 02/23/2014 6:00:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: South Dakota

A person is far better off to stick with electrical or instrumentation.


23 posted on 02/23/2014 6:00:28 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Mariner
...report status and assist...

It would take quite a while to fully respond but what I'll say for now is that reporting and assisting aren't *nearly* as mundane or uncomplicated as your post suggests that you believe they are.

24 posted on 02/23/2014 6:03:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: staytrue
My sentiments, exactly.

Well said, and you even used the Canadian example I hold up to others.

A friend from graduate school who lived in Azerbaijan was able to enter Canada, but it required both he and his wife to have at least six years of college each and a spotless background check.

If the US did something more like that, we could appease those who wanted more immigration while kicking out all the leeches and criminals.

25 posted on 02/23/2014 6:06:16 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes,

I saw them do it, and I was part of it years ago as a IT Project Manager for a major IT firm.

The argument you give, is simply not true. If big business could figure out a way to save a buck hiring Pol Pot to teach ethics, they would do so in a second!

” Do you truly believe that most employers in this country would rather hire an Indian, Pakistani, Filipino or Chinese worker over an American? “ Take a look at how many American firms produce clothing in Vietnam, how many get busted every year trying to export arms to countries like Iran, Russia, China... For a buck, these noble and patriotic businesses (sarc) will fire their Americans and set up shop in Communist China (GM, Cisco), India (Dell, HP, etc), Malaysia, Vietnam, the Philippines, Turkey, Egypt...


26 posted on 02/23/2014 6:06:22 PM PST by Red6
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

boom-boom nurse from the P.I.?
I feeling a bit ill already ......

” my night nurse , you alone can fix this here curse....”


27 posted on 02/23/2014 6:21:30 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RE: “When the majority of college kids here won’t study engineering, the sciences, mathematics, medicine, nursing and the like, what is one to do? Go without?”

No.

Raise the pay, raise the benefits, improve working conditions.

Or - your solution - import foreign labor.

RE: “Do you truly believe that most employers in this country would rather hire an Indian, Pakistani, Filipino or Chinese worker over an American?”

Yes.

The foreigners are younger, and they can be compelled to work harder.

They work for less pay, fewer benefits, and they don’t complain about poor working conditions.

They want Green Cards, so they are docile.

They rarely quit, because, in many cases, visa law forbids them to seek a new employer, and because they need an employer’s sponsorship to get a Green Card.

RE: “Or is it that there is an inadequate supply of US workers to fill those slots?”

When there is an inadequate supply of gasoline, USA employers pay more for gasoline.

When there is an inadequate supply of labor, USA employers import foreign labor.

Wages go down, benefits go down, working conditions go down, and native born Americans walk away from that profession.


28 posted on 02/23/2014 6:30:47 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Mariner

Gosh Mariner, guess you’ve never been hospitalized or with anyone that has, including having a baby. It sounds as if the Phillipino nurses are RN’s. That is a huge difference from a CNA, or certified nurses aid. The CNA’s, granted, take temps etc. RN’s are very highly,scientifically trained. They (we) actually have to check every move a doctor makes to make sure it’s correct. Our knowledge base is enormous. Geeesh


29 posted on 02/23/2014 6:43:17 PM PST by R.I.chopper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this the same Trinity Health care the feds raided in Florida and jailed the family members for organized crime. They were from Chicago. We lost our hospital because of them.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 6:46:13 PM PST by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: Bulwyf

Best wishes. I don’t know where you live but be ready for a change in scenery. I don’t what city you are headed for but if it’s Williston be ready. It might be a hick town but evil people have come looking for a free ride


31 posted on 02/23/2014 6:59:31 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: South Dakota

It’s been booming here for a very long time, no end in sight. We get some transients, but overall it’s a family town and we’re not that small, about 60,000.


32 posted on 02/23/2014 7:11:10 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

Must be fargo or Bismarck


33 posted on 02/23/2014 7:25:32 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: R.I.chopper

I agree that Nurses get good education in the biological and health sciences, but what, exactly, do they do that requires such knowledge?


34 posted on 02/23/2014 8:03:54 PM PST by Mariner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Filipinos are wonderful people, male and female. Great people.


35 posted on 02/23/2014 8:05:13 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Argus
They’re all hunting for rich dumb American husbands - the nursing thing is just the way in.

AND another one guilty of posting without reading the article. It CLEARLY mentions their husbands and children who came over with them. Preconceptions must come cheap today.

36 posted on 02/23/2014 8:05:58 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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To: Argus

“They’re all hunting for rich dumb American husbands - the nursing thing is just the way in.”

Proving once again that the “ugly American” is not gone.


37 posted on 02/23/2014 8:07:08 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: South Dakota

Grande Prairie, Alberta.


38 posted on 02/23/2014 8:15:22 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: dainbramaged; 2ndDivisionVet; Rodney Dangerfield; Mark17; knarf; AlexW; lquist1; Neidermeyer; ...
Filipino potlucks are the best - Lumpia, adobo, mmmmm.

My sweet Filipina (soon-to-be-wife) is in the kitchen cooking. We were blessed with a rice sack full of camote (sweet potatoes), so she has gotten creative. We are opening a coffee shop and pizzeria, and she is looking for recipes to complement the coffee.

So. she cooked and mashed some camote, mixed it with sweet condensed milk and butter, and asked me to try it. I told her it needed more flavor and to try adding some cinnamon. She did and we liked it. The next trial was to make it into balls, dip in egg and flour, then fry it. Not so great.

BUT, the final product is a lumpia wrapper filled and rolled, then fried and brown-sugared like camote-q. Mmmmmm good and great with fresh brewed Batangas Kape (coffee for you 'kanos' reading along)!!!!

39 posted on 02/23/2014 8:16:50 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Today, doesn't it seem like we have a Corrupt Bastards Club in D.C.? On steroids?" -Sarah Palin)
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To: WVKayaker

“BUT, the final product is a lumpia wrapper”
______________________________________________________
My wife frequently makes lumpia. It is a favorite with me.
I eat at least a dozen at one time.


40 posted on 02/23/2014 8:21:44 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Rembrandt; WVKayaker; AlexW

41 posted on 02/23/2014 8:25:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, pigs and chickens on the spit are most common here.
My wife orders a roasted pig for any party that we have.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 9:11:15 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Rembrandt

I think I have never met a Filipino who couldn’t sing. We have friends we have gone camping with. Best singing around the campfire I have ever heard.


43 posted on 02/23/2014 9:24:53 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: llevrok
It seems nurses don't have so much trouble getting hired almost anywhere if they are well qualified.

One thing the article doesn't mention: when the boom came and populations doubled in Williston and increased significantly in Minot, there were also medical staff who were retiring because of the looming ACA (AKA Obamacare). So, in a way, for medical facilities there was a double whammy.

BTW, decades ago when I was born, the attending physician was from the Philippines. He remained in practice within 100 miles of DC for the rest of his life, and was my physician as a young man as well (before I moved west). He was an excellent doctor.

As for the current trend, it sure beats having understaffed hospitals and clinics.

44 posted on 02/23/2014 9:50:39 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: South Dakota
Fargo and Bismark (with Grand Forks you have the Trifecta) of towns with populations over 100,000 in the State.

Unfortunately, that's the more liberal group and about half of the State population. Check out a county map of the last US Senate election (where Heitkamp won) and you'll see the split. Blue in the East and on the Reservations, Red in the west.

45 posted on 02/23/2014 9:58:40 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Rembrandt

I refer you to my Post 16. Maybe your experiences have been different.


46 posted on 02/23/2014 10:23:40 PM PST by Argus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just hope they speak English at work.


47 posted on 02/23/2014 10:33:42 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Today America is just an economic zone for foreigners to flit in and out of as they please


48 posted on 02/24/2014 12:22:01 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Berosus

Spent a few years putting in wells in Nth Dakota and Wyoming, all I’ll say is get ready for the shock of your life. Bitter cold ad it stays that way for along time, plus they’re having the problem we are here in the Permian Basin. The housing shortage is bad with people paying enormous amounts of money for little housing. One bedroom apartments that once rented for 400 a month are now going a thousand and more, a two bedroom two bathe house will bring 1500 to 1700 a month. FEMA trailers are going for 800 a month and they’re parked in Man Camp’s all over the Permian Basin. While I apreciate what Sean is trying to do it’s not the cakewalk he make it out to be.


49 posted on 02/24/2014 2:43:20 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Berosus
My wife of four years landed in Pittsburgh in March of 2010, in about ten inches of snow.

She couldn't believe she was living in the land of halo-halo !

It quickly became spring and during that summer, I bought all KINDS of winter stuff she obediently accepted, but I think secretly thought I was nuts.

Sure enough ... winter came again about eight or so months later and ... waddaya' know?, she jumped right INto snow/cold living.

She has since told me she doesn't mind the cold and snow because she has the clothing.

THIS year in SW Pa., because of extended exrtreme cold, her only complaint was keeping her feet warm ...

I just said, welcome to winter.

50 posted on 02/24/2014 3:14:46 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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