Skip to comments.BUTLER: REMINGTON’S NY EGRESS SIGNALS EMPIRE STATE CLOSING FOR BUSINESS
Posted on 02/23/2014 7:19:55 PM PST by neverdem
An upstate New York lawmaker told Guns & Patriots Remingtons decision to develop a new plant outside the Mohawk Valley shows a state that is closed for business.
The long-term consequences of Remington expanding to Huntsville, Ala., instead of Ilion, N.Y., are profound, said Assemblyman Marc W. Butler (R.-Newport), whose district includes the Village of Ilion, where the Remington Outdoor Company has been situated for almost 200 years. Remington is part of our culture.
The Village of Ilion which is located at the South Bank of the Mohawk River is recognized as Remington Country because of its integral relationship between the village of about 8,000 people and the gun company-giant that employs over 1,300, he said. Who hasnt worked for Remington?
Remington, the countrys oldest firearm manufacturer, said they are expecting to create 2,000 new jobs over the next 10 years by adding a 500,000 sq.-ft. development site which will make for a total of 20 locations nationwide including the Ilion Firearms Plant & Museum.
The company said expansion is predicated by a large increase in sales in 2013. The Huntsville expansion provides for future needed capacity to support existing product demand and a robust new product pipeline.
The Ilion community has a reputation for skilled, high-quality workers, said Butler. Expansion here would have been ideal if not for the anti-gun climate.
While Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo is encouraging gun manufacturers to exit the Empire State, two-dozen states courted Remington to expand with them, said the Assemblyman who has called for the repeal of Cuomos signature gun control law the SAFE Act.
My question to this administration is: What did you do to attract Remington to expand in New York?
The answer is nothing, he said. The SAFE Act weakened any negotiations.
The Cuomo administration is doing everything it can to push people out, he said. New York is only open to business that the governor approves of.
In his State of the State address, Cuomo claims New York is inclusive to different ways-of-life, yet at the same time chastises Republicans, conservatives, gun owners and others for being different, said Butler.
Cuomos claim that Remingtons decision will not affect the economic climate in Ilion is not true, he said. While the Ilion economy will see a short-term increase due to the time it will take for Remington to build in Huntsville, the long-term consequences are dramatic.
Upstates economy, especially in the Mohawk Valley, has a deep connection to gun manufacturing and sales, he said. Provisions of the SAFE Act have threatened this important industry.
The state legislature is currently discussing more gun control laws, said the former Herkimer County majority leader. If microstamping is introduced to the floor of the assembly it is a clear signal that New York State is closed for business.
After the state of California enacted microstamping laws, U.S.-based leader in firearm manufacturing and design Smith & Wesson issued a statement indicating that it does not and will not include microstamping in its firearms.
There are 70 anti-gun bills being introduced in the state legislature, including microstamping, said Thomas H. King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, the largest state affiliate of the National Rifle Association. Things cant get worse.
Cuomos anti-gun agenda has hurt business and will continue to hurt business in New York, he said.
King urged the rejection of microstamping, which he said will drive up the cost of firearms, hurt the economic competitiveness of New Yorks gun industry and could lead to firearm manufacturers leaving the state altogether.
"If New York passes microstamping, Remington said the measure would be the straw that broke the camels back and the company will pull out of New York completely."
Closing? The past tense of the verb is more apt. New York hates business. Believe me.
we welcome them to alabama with open arms
.........I guess the only remaining question is do enough voters in New York State give enough of a damn about Cuomo closing it’s centuries old gun manufacturers?
Doesn’t look like they do.
The bigger picture is the amazing past of “upstate” NY, and the economic brownfield that it’s becoming. Xerox, Kodak, IBM, and all their suppliers... the companies that still exist are either mostly overseas or outsourced. I wonder what people actually DO up there.
I don't get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin?
GOOD for you, Alabama!
Too bad, you reap what you sow, even in the political realm.
Don’t forget GE.
> I wonder what people actually DO up there.
Mohawk Valley? There's quite a bit of untaxed cigarette smuggling going on around there. You can buy a carton of Senecas, which are really just Marlboro Reds, for under $25 and triple your money n New York.
“I don’t get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin?”
Or what if the gun is a revolver?
Gun control rarely makes sense.
I have heard that companies producing elastic are rapidly relocating to New York State. They need a larger supply for all the panty waists.
My son goes to college in Rochester. Many affluent upstate cities are university towns with a smattering of high tech and biotech firms. Farming is the rest of the area. If you farm or have a tech college degree, you have a chance for a job. If you are blue collar worker, forget about it. Taxes, regs, environmental laws and PC laws are driving out manufacturing. One factory employs more people then 10 small start up biotech firms. That is what the liberal elites fail to understand when they envision a socialist star trek world.
New York is only open to business that the governor approves of.
The abortion business is doing quite well.
Democrats are intentionally trying to kill the middle class.
People who don’t need to suck the government teat to survive are apt to be independent minded, hard to control and will generally vote the wrong way.
Once they are forced out of work and onto the democrat plantation they come around in a generation or two.
Cuomo is doing a worse job in NY than he did with HUD, and that was pretty awful.
All Cuomo cares about is advancing his extreme leftist social agenda - abortion expansion, gay “marriage,” and taking away NYers 2nd Amendment rights.
NYers need to start RIGHT NOW in exposing him to the underinformed, if we have any chance of replacing him.
Obviously you have more common sense than a legislator.
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Is Corning still there?
I wish I lived in Huntsville.
NYS has been hit hard by the anti business climate...
but remember, 60% of people get some benefit from govt....there are tons of state workers and teachers who get wonderful pensions and are not taxed on it...SUNY is a large system with its mitts in every corner of the state....
there's a ripple effect supporting all these govt people....
for the record, NY has a large agricultural business, including fine wines, Chobani started there too I think....NYS cheese is about the best seriously...
lots of heritage and ethnic identification in NYS and a very interesting place to live..
sadly, the southern tier of the state is sitting on a large natural gas area but TPTB won't let them get to it...you would think the state would love to have more millionaires....
I live in HSV and we sure do. People are very excited. Friends on FB are already talking about buying new guns. Let the characters in NY have the state. HSV, AL is good for business. : )
You will be welcomed. AL gets a bad name but I would not want to live anywhere else. I moved here in 1966 after my late husband graduated from Mississippi State University. My daughter is owner of our family business. Her daddy started it in the basement of our house. Check out www.aztechnology.com. I am very proud of her and I know her daddy would be. It is a family business since my 2 grandchildren work there too. If I did, we would be in big trouble!
This at a time when newly elected Marxist DiBlasio of NYC is pressing cuomo to throw some upstate tax revenue to him to fund his ‘mandatory pre-K’ indoctorination agenda.
CA, IL, NY, NJ...te race to the bottom.
4473 and BG check for each one! $25+ please!
Doesnt look like they do.
It's unfortunately a situation where the conservative component of the state's population is being dominated by arrogant ultra-liberal Tyrants centered around NYC.
Whether it's "Republicans" like Michael Bloomberg or Democrats like Cuomo, New York City resides in an alternate universe of "progressive" authoritarian delusion.
God bless and speed to you. We in my home state welcome any victory, to any state, over tyranny, no matter how slight.
Oh and BTW. Wishes from the state that has Ruger in Prescott AZ..that is Preskit to the locals.
Don't waste your time.
It's too late to save New York.
Thanks for the ping!
Speaking of HUD. Look into the nEw Oleans Pic newspaper archives just before Katrina. They were exposing the entire Landreau HUD scam in the ninth. Houses purchased for less the 3,000 brining in HUD repair money of over $300,000 and that was before the gates flooded. Seems like the flooding stopped the investigation. Being head of HUD just helps one navigate the loopholes once out of office
Or what if the gun is a revolver?
Gun control rarely makes sense.
Or has an attached catchment system to collect the used cartridges.
Or...the electrically fired gun with in line bullets...no firing pin required,
Or.......a throw away 3D printed gun
It's not important. Very few people legally buy a gun, kill people with it, and then hope to escape discovery. Outside of going postal, crimes are committed with stolen guns. Additionally, microstamping entirely wears out after a day at the range (100-200 rounds are enough, reportedly.) Lawmakers know that, and they do not care about practical use of microstamping. Fighting the crime is not in their interests anyway. They simply want to erect more roadblocks for legal ownership of firearms. S&W's refusal to sell in CA is already an unmitigated victory for gun grabbers; that's the only purpose of the law. The 2A may say that you are free to keep and bear arms... but the state says: the gun has to be made from pure gold. How many people will be able to own such a gun?
“I don’t get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin? “
Doubt if you have to go that far. Just a little polishing and the MS is gone! MS isn’t about gun safety, it’s about cutting off the supply of semi-automatic handguns. Here in CA the matter of MS is already going to court. It’s actually less hair brained than the other “features” that would make a handgun unusable to anyone but the “registered owner.” Californians bought something on the order of 725,000 guns in 2012, double what it was three years ago.
“Don’t waste your time. ..”
My dear, this is why the left is winning, and conservatism is losing, at least the majority of battles.
The left NEVER gives up, and never worries about “wasting their time.”
Andrew Cuomo is a pompous urban liberal arrogant snot, just like his obnoxious daddy, Pope Mario the Pious.
Please let Cuomo run against Hillary in 2016, please please.
Did not see that coming. lol.
“Speaking of HUD ..”
I hope they don’t stop exposing Landreau and bring it up again. We can do that on FR, etc..
Landreau is one of the worst phonies. It’s too bad she has had such good luck in duping her constituents. Hopefully, by now, they are catching on.
“Corning world headquarters and R&D are in Corning and not going anywhere... ceramic converter plants expanding regularly .”
But Corning’s FO mfg. is in Wilmington, North Carolina, or at least it was when I did business with them. They ran company air service from Elmira, to Newark to Wilmington. They also had a big EO facility outside Paris.
there's also a big plant in Germany at K-Town
Gorilla glass is Corning's current big thing
I saw the writing on the wall in 2000. Left when Hillary Clinton became a Senator. At that point, I knew.
It was papa Landreau He started HUD under Jimmy Carter. IIRC there were the groups of investors who owned the majority of residential rental properties in the city. They artificially kept prices high and the tax payers paid the bill thru HUD
HUD grants were given for repairs that were never made. It’s the same MO that MalJar used in her real estate dealings in Chicago
“The bigger picture is the amazing past of upstate NY, and the economic brownfield that its becoming.”
We went camping there last year and at one point went in to the city of Utica.
It is a wasteland, pure and simple.
It makes Newark, NJ look like Paris, France in comparison.
And absolutely no fracking whatsoever. Andy is still “considering” it.
Moron. Just like his old man.