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BUTLER: REMINGTON’S NY EGRESS SIGNALS EMPIRE STATE CLOSING FOR BUSINESS
Human Events ^ | 2/23/2014 | Raquel Okyay

Posted on 02/23/2014 7:19:55 PM PST by neverdem

Butler: Remington's NY egress signals Empire State closing for business

An upstate New York lawmaker told Guns & Patriots Remington’s decision to develop a new plant outside the Mohawk Valley shows a state that is closed for business.

“The long-term consequences of Remington expanding to Huntsville, Ala., instead of Ilion, N.Y., are profound,” said Assemblyman Marc W. Butler (R.-Newport), whose district includes the Village of Ilion, where the Remington Outdoor Company has been situated for almost 200 years. “Remington is part of our culture.”

The Village of Ilion which is located at the South Bank of the Mohawk River is recognized as ‘Remington Country’ because of its integral relationship between the village of about 8,000 people and the gun company-giant that employs over 1,300, he said. “Who hasn’t worked for Remington?”

Remington, the country’s oldest firearm manufacturer, said they are expecting to create 2,000 new jobs over the next 10 years by adding a 500,000 sq.-ft. development site which will make for a total of 20 locations nationwide including the Ilion Firearms Plant & Museum.

Antique postcard of the Illion, N.Y., Remmington Arms plant

Antique postcard of the Ilion, N.Y., Remington Arms plant

The company said expansion is predicated by a large increase in sales in 2013. “The Huntsville expansion provides for future needed capacity to support existing product demand and a robust new product pipeline.”

The Ilion community has a reputation for skilled, high-quality workers, said Butler. “Expansion here would have been ideal if not for the anti-gun climate.”

While Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo is encouraging gun manufacturers to exit the Empire State, two-dozen states courted Remington to expand with them, said the Assemblyman who has called for the repeal of Cuomo’s signature gun control law – the SAFE Act.

“My question to this administration is: What did you do to attract Remington to expand in New York?”

The answer is nothing, he said. “The SAFE Act weakened any negotiations.”

The Cuomo administration is doing everything it can to push people out, he said. “New York is only open to business that the governor approves of.”

In his State of the State address, Cuomo claims New York is inclusive to different ways-of-life, yet at the same time chastises Republicans, conservatives, gun owners and others for being different, said Butler.

Cuomo’s claim that Remington’s decision will not affect the economic climate in Ilion is not true, he said. “While the Ilion economy will see a short-term increase due to the time it will take for Remington to build in Huntsville, the long-term consequences are dramatic.”

Upstate’s economy, especially in the Mohawk Valley, has a deep connection to gun manufacturing and sales, he said. “Provisions of the SAFE Act have threatened this important industry.”

The state legislature is currently discussing more gun control laws, said the former Herkimer County majority leader. “If microstamping is introduced to the floor of the assembly it is a clear signal that New York State is closed for business.”

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After the state of California enacted microstamping laws, U.S.-based leader in firearm manufacturing and design Smith & Wesson issued a statement indicating that it does not and will not include microstamping in its firearms.

“There are 70 anti-gun bills being introduced in the state legislature, including microstamping,” said Thomas H. King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, the largest state affiliate of the National Rifle Association. “Things can’t get worse.”

Cuomo’s anti-gun agenda has hurt business and will continue to hurt business in New York, he said.

King urged the rejection of microstamping, which he said will drive up the cost of firearms, hurt the economic competitiveness of New York’s gun industry and could lead to firearm manufacturers leaving the state altogether.

"If New York passes microstamping, Remington said the measure would be ‘the straw that broke the camel’s back’ and the company will pull out of New York completely."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; cuomo; remington
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1 posted on 02/23/2014 7:19:55 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Closing? The past tense of the verb is more apt. New York hates business. Believe me.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 7:23:18 PM PST by fhayek
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To: neverdem

we welcome them to alabama with open arms


3 posted on 02/23/2014 7:24:06 PM PST by jneesy (rough seas make skillful sailors)
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To: neverdem

.........I guess the only remaining question is do enough voters in New York State give enough of a damn about Cuomo closing it’s centuries old gun manufacturers?

Doesn’t look like they do.


4 posted on 02/23/2014 7:27:11 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: neverdem

The bigger picture is the amazing past of “upstate” NY, and the economic brownfield that it’s becoming. Xerox, Kodak, IBM, and all their suppliers... the companies that still exist are either mostly overseas or outsourced. I wonder what people actually DO up there.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 7:27:38 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
I wonder what people actually DO up there.

Plot their escape.
6 posted on 02/23/2014 7:29:25 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: neverdem
microstamping...

I don't get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin?

7 posted on 02/23/2014 7:29:57 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: jneesy

GOOD for you, Alabama!


8 posted on 02/23/2014 7:30:13 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: neverdem

Too bad, you reap what you sow, even in the political realm.


9 posted on 02/23/2014 7:30:45 PM PST by Fungi
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To: The Antiyuppie

Don’t forget GE.


10 posted on 02/23/2014 7:31:39 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeeSharp

Gov. Cuomo.


11 posted on 02/23/2014 7:32:06 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: The Antiyuppie

> I wonder what people actually DO up there.

Meth.


12 posted on 02/23/2014 7:33:25 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Richard Warman censors free speech.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I wonder what people actually DO up there.

Mohawk Valley? There's quite a bit of untaxed cigarette smuggling going on around there. You can buy a carton of Senecas, which are really just Marlboro Reds, for under $25 and triple your money n New York.

13 posted on 02/23/2014 7:34:51 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

“I don’t get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin?”

Or what if the gun is a revolver?

Gun control rarely makes sense.


14 posted on 02/23/2014 7:41:38 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Liberty in our Lifetime - WWW.FreeStateProject.org)
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To: neverdem

I have heard that companies producing elastic are rapidly relocating to New York State. They need a larger supply for all the panty waists.


15 posted on 02/23/2014 7:42:17 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: The Antiyuppie

My son goes to college in Rochester. Many affluent upstate cities are university towns with a smattering of high tech and biotech firms. Farming is the rest of the area. If you farm or have a tech college degree, you have a chance for a job. If you are blue collar worker, forget about it. Taxes, regs, environmental laws and PC laws are driving out manufacturing. One factory employs more people then 10 small start up biotech firms. That is what the liberal elites fail to understand when they envision a socialist star trek world.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 7:43:53 PM PST by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: neverdem
If the polls are correct, how upset can the people of NY be if they are going to re elect Andrew by a sizable margin?

“New York is only open to business that the governor approves of.”

The abortion business is doing quite well.

17 posted on 02/23/2014 7:45:37 PM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: neverdem

Democrats are intentionally trying to kill the middle class.

People who don’t need to suck the government teat to survive are apt to be independent minded, hard to control and will generally vote the wrong way.

Once they are forced out of work and onto the democrat plantation they come around in a generation or two.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 7:46:20 PM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: All; neverdem

Cuomo is doing a worse job in NY than he did with HUD, and that was pretty awful.

All Cuomo cares about is advancing his extreme leftist social agenda - abortion expansion, gay “marriage,” and taking away NYers 2nd Amendment rights.

NYers need to start RIGHT NOW in exposing him to the underinformed, if we have any chance of replacing him.


19 posted on 02/23/2014 7:49:06 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: SeeSharp

Obviously you have more common sense than a legislator.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 7:55:11 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: neverdem

Cuomo: ‘I was not saying anyone should leave the state’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3121853/posts

Ted Cruz to N.Y. pro-lifers not welcome by Gov. Cuomo: ‘March on down to Texas’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3115309/posts

Cuomo forces “conservative” Remington out of New York; Democrats force Occidental out of California
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3125112/posts


21 posted on 02/23/2014 7:56:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Paladin2

Is Corning still there?


22 posted on 02/23/2014 7:58:05 PM PST by super7man
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To: fhayek

I wish I lived in Huntsville.


23 posted on 02/23/2014 8:00:06 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
hey upstate is gorgeous...if I had the money and the fancy to move back there I would....tons of farmland and forests...beautiful lakes...

NYS has been hit hard by the anti business climate...

but remember, 60% of people get some benefit from govt....there are tons of state workers and teachers who get wonderful pensions and are not taxed on it...SUNY is a large system with its mitts in every corner of the state....

there's a ripple effect supporting all these govt people....

for the record, NY has a large agricultural business, including fine wines, Chobani started there too I think....NYS cheese is about the best seriously...

lots of heritage and ethnic identification in NYS and a very interesting place to live..

sadly, the southern tier of the state is sitting on a large natural gas area but TPTB won't let them get to it...you would think the state would love to have more millionaires....

24 posted on 02/23/2014 8:02:24 PM PST by cherry
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To: jneesy

I live in HSV and we sure do. People are very excited. Friends on FB are already talking about buying new guns. Let the characters in NY have the state. HSV, AL is good for business. : )


25 posted on 02/23/2014 8:13:03 PM PST by MamaB
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Second Amendment Special!

Connecticut gun owners revolt: Widely flouted registration law puts legislators in a bind

Round Up (Tens of Thousands of) Gun Registration Scofflaws, Rants Hartford Courant Editorial Board

Minn. Police Tackle NFL's Gun Policy

Troops left to fend for themselves after Army was warned of flaws in rifle

26 posted on 02/23/2014 8:19:42 PM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: logitech

You will be welcomed. AL gets a bad name but I would not want to live anywhere else. I moved here in 1966 after my late husband graduated from Mississippi State University. My daughter is owner of our family business. Her daddy started it in the basement of our house. Check out www.aztechnology.com. I am very proud of her and I know her daddy would be. It is a family business since my 2 grandchildren work there too. If I did, we would be in big trouble!


27 posted on 02/23/2014 8:20:36 PM PST by MamaB
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To: neverdem

This at a time when newly elected Marxist DiBlasio of NYC is pressing cuomo to throw some upstate tax revenue to him to fund his ‘mandatory pre-K’ indoctorination agenda.

CA, IL, NY, NJ...te race to the bottom.


28 posted on 02/23/2014 8:23:45 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SeeSharp

4473 and BG check for each one! $25+ please!


29 posted on 02/23/2014 8:25:44 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: super7man
Corning world headquarters and R&D are in Corning and not going anywhere... ceramic converter plants expanding regularly
30 posted on 02/23/2014 8:28:15 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Cen-Tejas
.........I guess the only remaining question is do enough voters in New York State give enough of a damn about Cuomo closing it’s centuries old gun manufacturers?

Doesn’t look like they do.

It's unfortunately a situation where the conservative component of the state's population is being dominated by arrogant ultra-liberal Tyrants centered around NYC.

Whether it's "Republicans" like Michael Bloomberg or Democrats like Cuomo, New York City resides in an alternate universe of "progressive" authoritarian delusion.

31 posted on 02/23/2014 8:29:09 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: cherry
everything you said is 100% true...
32 posted on 02/23/2014 8:31:07 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: jneesy

God bless and speed to you. We in my home state welcome any victory, to any state, over tyranny, no matter how slight.


33 posted on 02/23/2014 8:37:04 PM PST by crz
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To: jneesy

Oh and BTW. Wishes from the state that has Ruger in Prescott AZ..that is Preskit to the locals.

Congrats anyways!


34 posted on 02/23/2014 8:39:30 PM PST by crz
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To: Sun
NYers need to start RIGHT NOW in exposing him to the underinformed, if we have any chance of replacing him.

Don't waste your time.

It's too late to save New York.

35 posted on 02/23/2014 8:42:32 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 02/23/2014 8:43:33 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sun

Speaking of HUD. Look into the nEw Oleans Pic newspaper archives just before Katrina. They were exposing the entire Landreau HUD scam in the ninth. Houses purchased for less the 3,000 brining in HUD repair money of over $300,000 and that was before the gates flooded. Seems like the flooding stopped the investigation. Being head of HUD just helps one navigate the loopholes once out of office


37 posted on 02/23/2014 8:51:33 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: RKBA Democrat
“I don’t get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin?”

Or what if the gun is a revolver?

Gun control rarely makes sense.

Or has an attached catchment system to collect the used cartridges.

Or...the electrically fired gun with in line bullets...no firing pin required,

Or.......a throw away 3D printed gun

38 posted on 02/23/2014 8:57:31 PM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: SeeSharp
What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin?

It's not important. Very few people legally buy a gun, kill people with it, and then hope to escape discovery. Outside of going postal, crimes are committed with stolen guns. Additionally, microstamping entirely wears out after a day at the range (100-200 rounds are enough, reportedly.) Lawmakers know that, and they do not care about practical use of microstamping. Fighting the crime is not in their interests anyway. They simply want to erect more roadblocks for legal ownership of firearms. S&W's refusal to sell in CA is already an unmitigated victory for gun grabbers; that's the only purpose of the law. The 2A may say that you are free to keep and bear arms... but the state says: the gun has to be made from pure gold. How many people will be able to own such a gun?

39 posted on 02/23/2014 9:06:29 PM PST by Greysard
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To: SeeSharp

“I don’t get it. What is to stop a gun owner from simply changing he firing pin? “

Doubt if you have to go that far. Just a little polishing and the MS is gone! MS isn’t about gun safety, it’s about cutting off the supply of semi-automatic handguns. Here in CA the matter of MS is already going to court. It’s actually less hair brained than the other “features” that would make a handgun unusable to anyone but the “registered owner.” Californians bought something on the order of 725,000 guns in 2012, double what it was three years ago.


40 posted on 02/23/2014 9:12:45 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Rome2000

“Don’t waste your time. ..”

My dear, this is why the left is winning, and conservatism is losing, at least the majority of battles.

The left NEVER gives up, and never worries about “wasting their time.”


41 posted on 02/23/2014 9:28:14 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Sun

Andrew Cuomo is a pompous urban liberal arrogant snot, just like his obnoxious daddy, Pope Mario the Pious.

Please let Cuomo run against Hillary in 2016, please please.


42 posted on 02/23/2014 9:30:40 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Rembrandt

Did not see that coming. lol.


43 posted on 02/23/2014 9:32:06 PM PST by usacon (United we stand divided we fall.)
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To: hoosiermama

“Speaking of HUD ..”

I hope they don’t stop exposing Landreau and bring it up again. We can do that on FR, etc..

Landreau is one of the worst phonies. It’s too bad she has had such good luck in duping her constituents. Hopefully, by now, they are catching on.


44 posted on 02/23/2014 9:32:45 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Chode

“Corning world headquarters and R&D are in Corning and not going anywhere... ceramic converter plants expanding regularly .”

But Corning’s FO mfg. is in Wilmington, North Carolina, or at least it was when I did business with them. They ran company air service from Elmira, to Newark to Wilmington. They also had a big EO facility outside Paris.


45 posted on 02/23/2014 9:43:24 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387
that's true, and i've taken the shuttle myself, but the world HQ and the R&D facility aren't going anyplace... and like i said the diesel plant is expanding on a regular basis

there's also a big plant in Germany at K-Town

Gorilla glass is Corning's current big thing

46 posted on 02/23/2014 9:49:45 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: The Antiyuppie
The bigger picture is the amazing past of “upstate” NY, and the economic brownfield that it’s becoming. Xerox, Kodak, IBM, and all their suppliers...

I saw the writing on the wall in 2000. Left when Hillary Clinton became a Senator. At that point, I knew.

47 posted on 02/23/2014 9:54:21 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Sun

It was papa Landreau He started HUD under Jimmy Carter. IIRC there were the groups of investors who owned the majority of residential rental properties in the city. They artificially kept prices high and the tax payers paid the bill thru HUD
HUD grants were given for repairs that were never made. It’s the same MO that MalJar used in her real estate dealings in Chicago


48 posted on 02/23/2014 10:02:02 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“The bigger picture is the amazing past of “upstate” NY, and the economic brownfield that it’s becoming.”

Yes.

We went camping there last year and at one point went in to the city of Utica.

It is a wasteland, pure and simple.

It makes Newark, NJ look like Paris, France in comparison.


49 posted on 02/23/2014 10:21:42 PM PST by jocon307
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To: neverdem

And absolutely no fracking whatsoever. Andy is still “considering” it.

Moron. Just like his old man.


50 posted on 02/23/2014 10:41:14 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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