Skip to comments.Four Pinocchios to Obama on Medicaid-expansion claims: Politico notices gov't stats are worthless
Posted on 02/24/2014 6:53:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
It’s not the first time that the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler has dropped a bunch of Pinocchios on claims from Democrats on Medicaid expansion, and it looks like it won’t be the last, either. Kessler even gave himself three Pinocchios a month ago for initially buying the White House spin on the Medicaid numbers. Today, he gives Barack Obama the maximum four Pinocchios for claiming that ObamaCare has resulted in seven million enrollments in the federal program for low-income Americans:
Weve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion.
President Obama, remarks during dinner with the Democratic Governors Association, Feb. 20, 2014
The Fact Checker has written several times about the fuzziness of the Medicaid numbers issued by the Obama administration. But it is like playing whack-a-mole. Every time we rap someone for getting it wrong, the same problem pops up someplace else.
The problem is, as it has been, Democrats using the total number of Medicaid enrollments over the last few months, which comes to slightly over seven million. That includes, however, enrollments in states that refused to participate in the Medicaid expansion of ObamaCare, which account for 2.3 million of those enrollments. That takes the number to 4.8 million — but as Kessler has repeatedly explained since giving himself three Pinocchios on the point, that still includes people who would have been eligible without the Medicaid expansion.
How many does that leave? That depends on who you ask, because believe it or not, HHS never bothered to ask enrollees. Politico reports today that ObamaCare numbers on the previously uninsured moving to both Medicaid and private insurance are unreliable because HHS didn’t bother to provide questions that would have provided that data:
When you go to all this trouble to cover the uninsured, is it really that unreasonable to ask how many uninsured people Obamacare has covered so far?
The answer, apparently, is: Yes. Its unreasonable.
The truth is, nobody has a good, real-time fix on how successful the Affordable Care Act has been in reducing the ranks of the uninsured. The Obama administration hasnt been able to say how many of the 3.3 million people who have signed up for private health insurance coverage, or of the 6.3 million who have been determined eligible for Medicaid, were actually uninsured before and health care experts arent sure yet, either.
There have been a couple of surveys, and at least one state New York has been keeping track of how many people were uninsured when they applied for coverage. But their answers are so wildly different that all we can say is, its either a tiny minority that were uninsured, or its most of them.
Two different groups have estimated the extent to which ObamaCare has expanded Medicaid to the uninsured. One is Acela, which estimates the figure at between 1.1 million and 1.8 million. Kessler also quotes Charles Gaba, who puts the number at 2.6 million. Both are far below Barack Obama’s claims, and also far below what the administration expected to see by this stage. The most motivated of all the uninsured should have been those eligible for Medicaid, and yet we haven’t seen a rush to enroll — and those who are motivated to do so probably already have. That means there won’t be a big spike coming in the next couple of months.
Kessler wonders how the President could be so ignorant of the weakness of this data:
In any case, no matter how you slice it, it does not add up to 7 million. It is dismaying that given all of the attention to this issue, the president apparently does not realize that the administrations data are woefully inadequate for boastful assertions of this type.
I’d say it has less to do with ignorance than apathy. He doesn’t care whether the numbers are accurate or worthwhile — he just wants the talking point.
Just another lie on top of the mountain of lies eminating from Oahole.
“What difference, at this point, does it make?”
The propaganda has taken root so deeply, it will be difficult to extirpate the basis for its application in the first place.
First assumption: that somehow, “everybody else” should be concerned with the state of one’s own health, and it should be “their” responsibility.
News flash. You, and you, and you, are just not that important to “everybody else”. Ego and self-interest keep getting in the way of whatever impulses of altruism keep cropping up in life. From the time you enter kindergarten, or thereabouts, you find yourself pretty much on your own, better start learning life’s lessons early and often. If you don’t start taking care of you, who will?
Second assumption: that, miraculously, someone else will just “know” what is best for you. Again, about the age of kindergarten, everybody has become either a leader, a follower, or somebody who should just stay the hell out of the way. Humanity has not yet evolved to the point where they may be clairvoyant or able to exercise telepathic powers, not matter what the escapist fiction may picture.
Unfortunately, there is no “reset” button for logic, starting all over with a more realistic set of postulates and axioms. The more realistic views of the world do exist, and are mostly accessible to anyone capable of even modest critical thinking, but that has become a largely forgotten practice.
Nobody has to suffer fools gladly.
Wow....the NYT can’t see what every sensible person has figured out long ago. If Obama’s lips are moving, he’s lying.
Facts are supposed to be based on truth. Nothing that comes from the WH meets this criteria.
0 doesn’t even qualify as a spin doctor anymore. You have to have some element of truth in your spin to make pople believe it. His truth seems to cor from Soros fairy dust.
0 doesnt even qualify as a spin doctor anymore. You have to have some element of truth in your spin to make people believe it. His truth seems to come from Soros fairy dust.
It’s election year he’s spreading the BS thicker he has to cover up all the stupid things Obama&Co have done.