Ukraine Crisis: Russia Brands New Leaders "Mutineers" (We All Knew This Was Coming Alert)

BBC News ^ | 2/24/2014 | BBC News

[caveat emptor]

they’re attached to the Russian and culture

"dominated by" might be more appropriate. In any event, there's no "they" "there". Read the article I linked to for some idea of the wide range of opinion/emotion.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Putin will bend over and take it just like he did last time when Yanukovich was overthrown by the Orange Revolution. Ukraine is not Georgia. Putin does not need to invade to keep his naval base and he doesn't need Ukraine's pipelines because he has the North Stream going directly to Germany. Putin only poses as a defender of “ethnic Russians” when he has something to gain. The Ossetians and Abkhazians he intervened in Georgia for are not even Russian, he just gave them Russian passports and made them Russian citizens. Actual Russians in Ukraine will be sold out by the treacherous gangster Putin because he doesn't need them. Just look at Yanukovich. Was Putin able to protect him? No. Yanukovich is learning the price of being the friend of KGB Putin. He has lost everything and now he has to flee to Russia and hide from his own countrymen who will kill him if the get their hands on him. Such will be the fate of all traitors who support Neo-Soviet Russia against their own country.

[dfwgator]

He can’t afford to get nothing out of it. I think Ukraine ceding the Crimea back to Russia is fair...considering the dubious reason it even became part of Ukraine in the first place.

[Tailgunner Joe]

He has his naval base, so what else does he need the Crimea for? I'm telling you those Crimean "Russians" will be waiting a long time for Putin to ride in on his big white horse and save them. They will be waiting just as long as the Serbs who are still waiting for Putin to liberate Kosovo and the Syrian Christians who actually believe that Putin will protect them. People who put their hope in the psychotic mass-murderer Putin are fools.

Russia lost Crimea when they lost thair whole country to ravaging raping Bolshevik hordes (whom Putin still admires and considers the Founding Fathers of Russia.)

[GeronL]

Their Parliament did this by the book, sure they were under a lot of pressure from the people... then again isn’t that a good thing?

[cunning_fish]

>>>Maybe they should consult with the Czechs and Slovaks.<<<

It won’t happen. Every major population center in Western Ukraine is practically insolvent, with the exception of Lviv, which is barely solvent. It is a norm for a Western city to leech Kiev for as much as 5 times the sum it actually made in taxes, just to maintain infrastructure.
Remember, today Ukraine doing about half as good as Mexico economically. If they are going to lose the Southeast it will turn them into Somalia. It is certainly not a plan for the West as far as they love free money.

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[Cossak]

Custom Union joined Vietnam and Montenegro, quite probably Turk and Israel will join for Russia is their main trade partner. Ukraine proved as unstable for any business and too poor with obsolete and deteriorating industry and infrastructure. They always will ask money with no prospects to return them. All their authorities were, are and will be corrupt.

[Ivan Mazepa]

Stop whining, your guy lost, get over it

[Ivan Mazepa]

take all the necessary steps to protect its interests and the lives of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine

Russian-speaking people of Ukraine like in Kyiv who kicked Putins's stooge out?

The faster that Russians deal with reality, the less it's going to hurt later - nobody wants you or your Putin. Less Zhirinovskiy, more news was from Ukrainian new sites

[Ivan Mazepa]

If only it was Western Ukraine that was the problem. KIEV and central Ukraine don’t want Russia either. And losing Kiev - ouch - that hurts.

[Cossak]

Western Ukrainians are natives so them have no land to move back. And it looks nobody is happy with them

[Cossak]

Biggest and more real danger to Ukrainians is state their economy. They have no money to pay pensions, to support state activity. Ukrainians must be ready to marauding gangs for they destroyed police. Nobody sane enough will give money to this fault state.

[Cossak]

Yanukovich is not KGB friend as he fooled not once Putin an Russian - speaking electorate who voted for him. He is not welcomed in Russia, he is in Eastern Ukraine now and there is no place in the World for him to hide. His all allegiance was to his money and power only and he lost all. If benderovtsy will murder him of vengeance it will alert those Ukrainians who are against them. Have you seen video from Odessa town how warmly locals greeted Ukronazis while police smoked by the corner?

[cunning_fish]

>>Stop whining, your guy lost, get over it<<

‘My guy’? LOL. Yanukovitz is a perfect product of a Ukrainian political establishment.
Every leader in your modern history is someone’s else stooge, be that someone Clinton, Putin or Merkel.
Maybe the problem is with a society, which needs a revolution every time your government fails to meet expectations? It is third or fourth revolt since 1990 if memory serves me well.
Ukrainians are circling the bowl the way known substance does, between East and West for all that time waiting for both sides to provide maximum free money. Every time their expectations fails they are rioting to get opposed fraction to office, with ties to another foreign country believed to deliver more goodies at the time. Yanukovitz is just another in a series of Ukrainian leaders stuffing his pockets while redistributing other people’s money. His affiliation to one or another foreign power is secondary.

[Ivan Mazepa]

It is third or fourth revolt since 1990 if memory serves me well.

2004 Orange Revolution is #1, this one is second. (Unless you're counting collapse of USSR as one? There have been mass demonstrations at the time, but you're being too generous to credit Ukrainians for collapse of USSR)

There will be another and another and another revolt, as long as they're selecting politicians that keep failing them. The alternative is to give up on life, shut up and suffer in silence. It might be suitable for Russians, but Ukrainians have Cossack blood in them :)

Agree with Yanek being a Ukrainian creation. Foreign affiliation is what I meant by "your guy". RF placed a bet on him, he lost; RF is to admit they supported a pathetic tyrant and move on. Getting involved in an internal Ukrainian problem, like issuing threats to invade Crimea, that's not good.

[cunning_fish]

>>There will be another and another and another revolt, as long as they’re selecting politicians that keep failing them.<<

Who ‘they’re’? ‘Da Joooose’?:-)

[Paleo Conservative]

Have you seen video from Odessa town how warmly locals greeted Ukronazis while police smoked by the corner?

Do you have a link? I was in Odessa in November when protests in Kiev were just starting.

[GeronL]

Debka says Russia is warming up the tanks

[cunning_fish]

>>Debka says Russia is warming up the tanks<<

GDR Uprising 1953
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLI7WenYho