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Any signs of people in blue states starting to turn away from Democrats?

Posted on 02/24/2014 7:36:48 PM PST by cradle of freedom

Has anyone seen any signs that people in blue states may be turning away from the big government ideology that has controlled these states for so many decades? Any discussions with relatives, neighbors or friends who are Democrats?


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KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; bluecollar; bluestates; reagandemocrats; teapublicans; uniparty
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1 posted on 02/24/2014 7:36:48 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

I think you’ll see a lot of people just sit out.


2 posted on 02/24/2014 7:38:03 PM PST by struggle
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To: cradle of freedom
The only sign that will count is…

…when the dead voters return to their graves and stay there before election day.

Seriously, stopping vote fraud should be the NUMBER ONE goal of the GOP. As to why they are not pursuing this… …it is indicative of the problems they are having across the board. Simply put, they are flaccid.

3 posted on 02/24/2014 7:39:56 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: cradle of freedom

When you steal from Peter to pay Paul, you will always have Paul’s support. We have been subsidizing “Paul”’s for years.


4 posted on 02/24/2014 7:40:52 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: cradle of freedom

5 posted on 02/24/2014 7:41:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: cradle of freedom

Just look for Dem relatives being very quiet. We perform best when they are dejected.


6 posted on 02/24/2014 7:41:02 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: cradle of freedom

Obama does not keep his word, and thus Obama cannot be trusted, PERIOD.

Obama is a disgrace to the Democrats of America.


7 posted on 02/24/2014 7:41:36 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: cradle of freedom

No!


8 posted on 02/24/2014 7:42:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: struggle

Preachers daughter thot obamacare was a good thing and supported it. i.e. Health Insurance for those who don’t have it. but now after seeing the mess she is having second thots. don’t know about how she will vote. i don’t think she voted for obama.


9 posted on 02/24/2014 7:43:36 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: cradle of freedom

After the last presidential election, I pretty much gave up on this nation ever doing anything great again.


10 posted on 02/24/2014 7:43:53 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Viennacon

Any loudmouths unusually quiet? :^)


11 posted on 02/24/2014 7:44:37 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Haven’t met any recently. I try to keep my distance, for my sanity.


12 posted on 02/24/2014 7:45:08 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: cradle of freedom

13 posted on 02/24/2014 7:46:50 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: cradle of freedom
I haven't seen any sign that any of the blue states are moving toward purple, much less red.

However I am starting to think that at least 1 or 2 Red states may turn blue. Arizona? Purple in 2014, deep dark blue in 2016? I am starting to think so.

14 posted on 02/24/2014 7:48:32 PM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dammit 2nddivivisionvet! You took my Idea!


15 posted on 02/24/2014 7:48:39 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: cradle of freedom

Not in New York City. This city just elected a Sandinista loving mayor.


16 posted on 02/24/2014 7:49:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: cradle of freedom

I know a couple of people who are questioning their status, not as Democrats, but as Obama fans.

One is a small business owner, who I find argues less and less with me LOL and has clearly stated ObamaCare is not good for him.

The other is a hairdresser who I overheard telling a client something like, “Now that I know he lied to us, I am looking back wondering what else he lied about. I’m not sure I trust him anymore.”

Those are the two that stand out.

On a side note, I live in CA and have conservative stickers on my car. About a month ago, when my car was clearly due for a wash someone wrote in the dust with their finger over my stickers: YES.

Anecdotes, but it’s better than nothin’!


17 posted on 02/24/2014 7:49:24 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Corporate Democrat; RKBA Democrat

Oh Yeah PING!


18 posted on 02/24/2014 7:50:09 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: struggle

This suggests a good national theme for the GOP: “Bigger federal government control is not the answer. Just ask the former Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela. Don’t vote Democrat.”


19 posted on 02/24/2014 7:52:52 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: cradle of freedom

I am behind enemy lines up in the PRM (People’s Republic of Massachusetts) and I don’t really see it.

I believe in the rule of thirds...there are a bunch of hardcore kernel of leftists up here, about a third. They don’t change. It would be like asking Obama or Bill Ayers to change, they aren’t going to do it.

They serve as an anchor. The other two thirds ebb and flow like a tide, maybe it is the fruits of liberalism that causes an ebb in liberalism up here, but it could just as easily be summer vacation or the Winter Olympics.

I just cannot tell.


20 posted on 02/24/2014 7:53:08 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: KJC1

Love those anecdotes.


21 posted on 02/24/2014 7:55:39 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: Yossarian

when the dead voters return to their graves and stay there before election day.

This calls for Ray Stevens, “Grandpa Voted Democrat”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUEqh07E4dY


22 posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:25 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: KC_Lion

I’m strangely attracted to the daughter there.


23 posted on 02/24/2014 7:57:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: cradle of freedom

My state has gone from democrat controlled to republican controlled with increasing gun rights, stricter control of abortion, right to work etc, I’d have to say that people here are changing direction.


24 posted on 02/24/2014 7:59:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cradle of freedom

Ma.hates liberals but they can’t get rid of them!The voting is so rigged in the state with the kennedy idiots who want their freebies.


25 posted on 02/24/2014 8:00:06 PM PST by plainshame
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To: rlmorel

I’m from Massachusetts too. Don’t you find Massachusetts voters to be mysterious? By that I mean that average voters here (not liberal intellectuals) tend to talk about small talk, not anything of substance and little about politics. But they have been molded into the Democrat view for generations...Democrats are for the little guy, Republicans for the rich.


26 posted on 02/24/2014 8:02:27 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: Avid Coug
This suggests a good national theme for the GOP: “Bigger federal government control is not the answer. Just ask the former Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela. Don’t vote Democrat.”

And yet their easy/quick cave on any debt limit is indicative that they're quite fine with bigger and more controlling government.

27 posted on 02/24/2014 8:04:23 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: cradle of freedom
I believe my aunt has soured on Obama. Started when she found out Obamacare wasn't going to be so wonderful after all.

It's probably a generational thing. Aunt was born during the Great Depression — the younger contingent of the Greatest Generation. In my neck of the woods, folks like her were blue collar, most were union members and of course, they routinely voted Democrat. But these people are also churchgoers, believers in the Constitution and finding their golden years aren't so secure. As people of that generation have watched this country slide into moral, military and economic decay, they are having some serious anxiety about their voting choices. They don't necessarily like Republicans, but their consciences may compel them to abandon the Democrats on election day.

28 posted on 02/24/2014 8:04:49 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: cripplecreek

That’s good to hear. You’re from Michigan aren’t you?


29 posted on 02/24/2014 8:04:59 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Yeah, there are still plenty of idiots but we’re getting a handle on voter fraud too.


30 posted on 02/24/2014 8:06:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: fatnotlazy

My conscience compelled my to leave the Democrats in the 1970’s when they adopted abortion as their battle flag.

Seek first the Kingdom of God and all else will be giving to you.


31 posted on 02/24/2014 8:07:57 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Just look at the polls, Republicans up, Independents waaaay up, Dims down. Isn’t that clear enough? Individual states, look at the resignations of incumbent Dims who are Reps and Sinators.


32 posted on 02/24/2014 8:08:00 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: cripplecreek

Have you found much voter fraud?


33 posted on 02/24/2014 8:09:17 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Proof will come on election day in November. Pollsters and RAT “reporters” will lie until then, and cry foul after.


34 posted on 02/24/2014 8:10:21 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Rembrandt

I haven’t been able to find those polls but the results sound good to me.


35 posted on 02/24/2014 8:10:30 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m strangely attracted to the daughter there”

You, TOO!?!?!? I was beginning to question my sanity!


36 posted on 02/24/2014 8:26:50 PM PST by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
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To: cradle of freedom

They are so stupid , these MA voters, they think Dem is part of their DNA, the Irish are particularly blind.. but they all work for the Gov’t mostly in one capacity or another!
I love my family… but they are Ignorant.


37 posted on 02/24/2014 8:29:31 PM PST by acapesket
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To: cradle of freedom
No turning here in CA, but you can see defeat and discouragement in their faces.

The average, white, middle class "independent" (liberal here) is not likely to vote in this mid-term.

38 posted on 02/24/2014 8:32:48 PM PST by Mariner
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I heard a caller on the radio who said that his family talked about him when he wasn’t around. They thought he was a black sheep because he wasn’t a Democrat.

My brother once chewed me out via long distance phone call to warn me not to vote for Republicans since they caused the Depression.


39 posted on 02/24/2014 8:34:06 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: Mariner

What is that line from Conan the Barbarian something about the joy of defeating the enemy and hearing the lamentation of their women. :^D


40 posted on 02/24/2014 8:36:20 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: mozarky2
“I’m strangely attracted to the daughter there”

You, TOO!?!?!? I was beginning to question my sanity!

You should both be questioning your sanity, your eyesight, or your standards, or maybe all three...

41 posted on 02/24/2014 8:37:05 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: cradle of freedom
"My conscience compelled my to leave the Democrats in the 1970’s when they adopted abortion as their battle flag."I cast my very first vote for Ronald Reagan against Gerald Ford in the GOP primary of 1976. Registered Republican as soon as I tuned 18.

Now, I'm ashamed of the GOP. Especially here in CA. We used to be the heart and soul of the "western (l)ibertarian" wing of the GOP. Hoover, Nixon, Reagan...and a little bit of the Arizonan Goldwasser.

We'll claim him as he used to golf with Bob Hope in Palm Springs:)

42 posted on 02/24/2014 8:42:55 PM PST by Mariner
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To: cradle of freedom

A problem, or two, with many Massachusetts voters is that the men tend to work in unionized industries and thus vote Democrat because they are told it benefits them. the women are just angry and not appealing in any sense of the word.


43 posted on 02/24/2014 8:50:01 PM PST by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: cradle of freedom

I live in one of those blue states and the lefties seem to be digging in even more. That said, something is in the air. The Democrats are sensing fear. Why else would longtime liberals like Henry Waxman, George Miller, and now John Dingell bail from their lifetime Washington jobs? Maybe wishful thinking but when you have three powerful house libs with well over 100 years of experience decide to split town then one has to believe the Democrats are in deep trouble in November.


44 posted on 02/24/2014 8:51:06 PM PST by dowcaet
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To: cradle of freedom

Not only no, but from what little I’ve seen and read is that their hatred of conservatism ensures they will vote against us.

As I said in another post, 2 Nations masquerading as one. It’s all just a numbers game now. Neither side is ever going to think like the other and both sides are bent on the destruction of the other.

It’s ugly, but it is true.


45 posted on 02/24/2014 9:07:07 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: rlmorel

I’m in MA too.

Do not see any change at all except many, many Conservatives have left the state.


46 posted on 02/24/2014 9:09:39 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: ConservativeStatement

I live in a MA town filled to the brim with pinch faced angry women with dozens of bumper stickers on their cars.

The numbers of hard core liberals here is through the roof.

Most folks are unfriendly, kids mouth off to their parents, people do not clean the snow off their car roofs ( sometimes their hoods ), they have no problem telling you what you ordered for food is unhealthy.

This is a wealthy town with just flat out mean, rude people.


47 posted on 02/24/2014 9:15:06 PM PST by warsaw44
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To: sickoflibs

“No!”

I would tend to disagree. My wife has always been a Democrat, say she may never vote that way again and voted for Romney in the last election. Liberal college friends are silent on all issues raised, healthcare, national security, unemployment. Nothing to say....

They are seeing the folly, some of them anyway.


48 posted on 02/24/2014 9:20:30 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: cradle of freedom

I know a die hard liberal, who claims he’s a moderate, whose biggest argument is “The republicans never did a thing for the working man.” I never could get him to tell me what the republicans were supposed to do. I haven’t talked to him in a long time.


49 posted on 02/24/2014 9:52:22 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: cradle of freedom
We used to see a LOT of cars with zero 2008 and 2012 bumper stickers. Many, many 2008 stickers still on cars after the 2012 election so that then there were 2, 3 or more zero stickers. Suddenly we are seeing 1 sticker and typically a 2012 one or something like "retired military for zero" and NONE of the "si, se puede" ones that we saw well into 2013. It's like they've just disappeared. Hubby mentioned it to me the other night as I whipped out my sharpie and applied it to the retired military person's bumper sticker that felt they needed to vote for zero. Hubby said "Wow, it's been more than a month since you got a chance to do that!" (He cringes when I do that, usually watching from INSIDE the place we are headed) So there's our anecdotal evidence from Albuquerque.
50 posted on 02/24/2014 9:54:59 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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