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Justina Pelletierís Mother Collapses After Court Orders Daughter to Non-Medical Foster Care Facility
Canada Free Press ^ | February 24, 2014 | Christian Newswire

Posted on 02/25/2014 3:24:53 AM PST by No One Special

BOSTON,—The family of Justina Pelletier was emotionally distraught after a judge sentenced their sick daughter to the foster care system without access to her previous medical care. Justina is at the center of a legal battle between the Pelletier family and Boston Children’s Hospital over custody and proper medical treatment.

Attorney Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel filed a motion for pro hac vice to represent the Pelletiers, but the judge took the rare move of allowing the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families (DCF) to respond to the motion, effectively denying the specialist attorney from arguing in the hearing.

To keep the case under wraps, the judge ordered media to leave the courtroom and took the unconscionable step of transferring Justina’s custody to the foster care system, where she will not have access to treatment for her mitochondrial disease. Her family is deeply concerned for her life and safety.

Boston Children’s Hospital performed a controversial medical-legal maneuver colloquially called a “parent-ectomy” last year, seizing custody of Justina after disagreeing with her parents and physicians at Tufts Medical Center about her diagnosis and treatment. Since losing custody, Justina’s condition has steeply deteriorated.

After receiving the judge’s shocking decision today, the Pelletier family was heartbroken and distraught at Justina’s plight. Justina’s mom, Linda fainted in the courthouse hallway and had to be taken by ambulance for care.

“I was nearby when Linda collapsed, and it was heartbreaking,” relayed Keith Mason, Personhood USA President. “No parent should suffer as the Pelletiers are suffering. Knowing that their daughter will be cruelly and intentionally transferred to a facility that is unable to care for her medical needs is devastating.”

Rev. Patrick Mahoney, on behalf of the Pelletier family, announced that a national coalition to Free Justina...

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


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1 posted on 02/25/2014 3:24:53 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Freakin unreal.

How is this allowed to happen...oh right...the place you go for justice is corrupt and sick itself....


2 posted on 02/25/2014 3:30:56 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: No One Special

these pretensious medical and legal professionals better be right. I have dealt with doctors who get mad if you tell them the diagnosis even if you are right. Their nasty personality takes over.

I would look at racism in the case. The girl and her parents are white, are they being persecuted?


3 posted on 02/25/2014 3:33:17 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: No One Special

This is a complicated case...except it didn’t start out that way. This girl has already been diagnosed at a hospital in Conn....when issues arose and the family found that their preferred doctor had moved to Boston...they went three hours down to him (instead of sticking with the hospital they’d been with for years).

Boston’s hospital? They didn’t agree with the diagnosis, and instead...said it was mental....triggered by parents in a child-abuse episode. How they came to this....isn’t very clear, but less than twenty-four hours after the kid was admitted....the Conn parents were forced into a court to defend their parental rights.....and they lost temporary control.

I would say what’s left to clean this up....a hundred good men as George Orwell described it...”People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” So we need some Conn rough characters to go down to the hospital in Boston, and remove the kid....bring her back across to Conn, and let the Conn cops protect her the rest of the way.

One lousy hospital....one lousy patient administrator....one lousy Boston judge....and you’ve got a corrupted system. They’ve abused the law, and none will face any punishment if the kid passes from this Earth. That’s the sad part of this story....they really aren’t responsible for her...they are simply pretenders in this game.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 3:42:12 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: No One Special

beware all children’s hospitals, they look for child abuse first

that being said, it sounds like maybe the original doc sent them to children’s because he suspected Munchens by proxy or whatever it is where the parents gain attention through their kid’s medical issues


5 posted on 02/25/2014 3:44:24 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: No One Special

If this child dies what MUST happen is the judge responsible for this travesty has to be hunted down
tarred, feathered and hung. NONE of these abuses
are possible without the complicity of blackrobed
pirates who think they have rights and parents don’t.

These types of abuses occur for one basic reason....
because they can. Nobody EVER steps up to hold the
perpetrators PERSONALLY responsible. As long as power
mad sociopaths can run rampant without fear of meaningful
consequences that is exactly what they will do....it is
their nature.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 3:46:01 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: No One Special

These are some sick, statist bastards, both the hospital that did this and the state agencies and judges who are upholding it.

I am afraid I would have resorted to other forcible means some time ago to get my daughter out of that state and somewhere she can be cared for.

Unbelievable that such things can occur in America. This is just disgusting, sickening...and certainly heart breaking.


7 posted on 02/25/2014 3:50:50 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: pepsionice

The way I understand it, she was being treated for mitochondrial disease by Tufts Medical Center. She got the flu and it was suggested she go to Children’s Hospital for treatment which she did. From there, the Children’s doctor said she did not have mitochondrial disease and contacted the state child protection service which had the girl taken away from her parents.

It doesn’t make sense but that’s it.

Megyn Kelly is following it on Fox News.


8 posted on 02/25/2014 3:52:59 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

It should be noted that this story is not the news on this case. It is one side of a legal/medical dispute. There is certainly another side, and it’s not presented here.

Which is not to say there isn’t very possibly something quite rotten in Denmark.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 3:58:18 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

And if there isn’t?


10 posted on 02/25/2014 4:01:11 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

I am glad that Megyn Kelly is reporting on it, but nobody is covering the details like Glenn Beck. The father made his first public statements on the issue on Glenn’s radio and TV shows.

This is actually far worse than most know. I have not seen Megyn’s coverage but Beck is keeping it as his top story following.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 4:02:22 AM PST by mazda77
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To: No One Special

I’m saying that the story as reported may be true, but you simply cannot tell when only one side of a complex issue is presented.

This is the equivalent of having the jury listen to only the prosecution’s case and then rendering a verdict.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 4:02:49 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: yldstrk

The disease is Munchausen by proxy.

There is not enough publically available information in this case to be able to determine if the child is really ill, or if she is a victim of Munchausen by proxy.

Usually, it is the mother who inflicts Munchausen by proxy, while the father, who is completely unaware of what is going on, believes the child to be genuinely ill.


13 posted on 02/25/2014 4:05:14 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Sherman Logan

Why am I not surprised you would support the courts in this matter.

There is something “quite rotten in Denmark”, and it is you.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 4:06:37 AM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Sherman Logan

The other side is not talking and is enforcing a gag order on the participants. A year ago, the girl was ice-skating and now she is in a wheel chair. The evidence does not fit your conjectures. If you are interested, google is your friend and you can go and find out what is going on. Megyn Kelly would be interested in what you come up with.


15 posted on 02/25/2014 4:09:22 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Not unusual that doctors disagree on a diagnosis. So why wasn’t a third doctor or third team of doctors brought in to review the records and examine the child?


16 posted on 02/25/2014 4:10:46 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: beandog

Please point out where I said I supported the court decision.

I stated that this article presents only one side of a case, and that there is most likely another side to the story, though quite possibly not a very good one.

So you think it is appropriate to make firm moral judgments after hearing only one side of a story?

FWIW, I personally am highly suspicious of the court’s actions in this case, but reserve final judgment till more information is available.


17 posted on 02/25/2014 4:11:22 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: No One Special

Massachusetts right? Figures. Most perverse state in the Union.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 4:12:18 AM PST by goldi
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To: goldi

Romneycare in action.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 4:23:59 AM PST by FES0844
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To: goldi
Massachusetts right? Figures. Most perverse state in the Union.

Perverse indeed. The DCF is the same agency that has lost children in foster care. Over 100 children in their system have died. These bastards follow the liberal principle of "punish the innocent and reward the guilty". This whole rotten situation is then compounded, no doubt, by doctors with fat egos who now don't want their opinions countermanded. Add to it the potential liability of now admitting their diagnosis was wrong and the parents, and Tufts, were right in the first place. These bastards would rather have the child die than admit they made a mistake and overreacted. I hope the parents sue the bastard doctors and DCF officials.

20 posted on 02/25/2014 4:36:45 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: exDemMom

The only drawback to that idea is the child improves under hospital care...in this case that has not happened.


21 posted on 02/25/2014 4:40:54 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: No One Special

It’s unfortunate how news stories report more drama than they do actual information.

To make a decision about this story, you first have to know how the condition was diagnosed, to which the story says nothing. This is the first logical question.

From googling I find this:

“Diagnosis of mitochondrial disease can be made through a combination of clinical observations, laboratory evaluation, brain imaging, and muscle biopsies. And an experienced integrated approach is necessary – not just one test. Referral to a specialist in mitochondrial medicine is often needed for diagnosis. Rarely is genetic testing sufficient for the diagnosis of mitochondrial disease. Even with the advent of new gene sequencing techniques like Next Generation sequencing, many of the identified changes in genes require the information obtained from a muscle biopsy for interpretation.”


22 posted on 02/25/2014 4:44:50 AM PST by fruser1
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To: EBH

We don’t know that.


23 posted on 02/25/2014 4:48:04 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Flick Lives

Frankly, I think it’s very hard for parents in MA to raise children there. I feel the same way about California.


24 posted on 02/25/2014 4:50:41 AM PST by goldi
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To: Jeff Head

Agree wholeheartedly.


25 posted on 02/25/2014 4:53:52 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: No One Special; exDemMom

The reason Justina was sent to Boston Children’s Hospital was because the gastroenterologist that was previously at Tuff’s was now at Boston. They were never able to see him - when they got to Boston, some other doctor (7 months out of medical school) interceded and made the alternate diagnosis within 12 hours.


26 posted on 02/25/2014 4:58:41 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

From Beck:

Lou Pelletier, father of Justina Pelletier | Glenn Beck Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqsLdM2rIk

Megyn Kelly interviews Justina’s father, Lou Pelletier.

Father Speaks Out On Losing Custody Of Daughter Over Medical Issues - Parents Worst Nightmare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-ah6LhDGPA

2/24/14
7:05 Minutes
Pelletier Family Devastated After Court Hearing On Daughter’s Custody - The Kelly File
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlNCJdA3S-o

4:41 Minutes
MA DCF Tells Court 15yr Old Justina Pelleter Should Be In Foster Care - The Kelly File
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4isFykHjxX0

Threads:
What We Found in a Boston Children’s Hospital Policy Manual About Research on ‘Wards of the State’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3126659/posts

Justina Pelletier’s Mother Collapses After Court Orders Daughter to Non-Medical Foster Care Facility
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3126707/posts

Father So Heartbroken About Daughter Held at Hospital Against His Will (truncated title)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3125107/posts


27 posted on 02/25/2014 4:59:07 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: exDemMom

Yes we do. As reported by Megtn Kelly, she is now in a wheelchair where before she was ice skating.


28 posted on 02/25/2014 5:01:39 AM PST by No One Special
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To: No One Special

Boston Am WRKO’s Jeff Kuhner has been covering this last hour-
retired cop called in to say cops who assisted in kidnapping of this girl should be prosecuted.


29 posted on 02/25/2014 5:04:53 AM PST by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: exDemMom

It’s obviously not Munchausen by proxy. The daughter has been away from the parents for some time now. If her symptoms were inflicted by her mother she would be cured by now. Looking at her pictures she appears markedly worse.


30 posted on 02/25/2014 5:05:17 AM PST by E.Allen
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To: No One Special

One of my friends was diagnosed with Juvenile Diabetes at an early age. She had to stay on a strict diet all throughout her childhood. Later, her mother admitted that she fabricated the diagnosis.
The mother admitted it after she herself was diagnosed with a disease that sent her immediately into a wheelchair. One day she was walking around town, the next day she was unable to walk ever again.


31 posted on 02/25/2014 5:05:48 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: No One Special

This whole episode stinks!

Somebody is covering up for this clown hospital’s malpractice.

There is no reason for the secrecy and keeping the parents away.


32 posted on 02/25/2014 5:05:56 AM PST by G Larry
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To: No One Special

Boston...... American trouble maker for centuries.

The good folks all left and migrated west leaving the liberal detritus


33 posted on 02/25/2014 5:07:23 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: exDemMom
The disease is Munchausen by proxy. ... Usually, it is the mother who inflicts Munchausen by proxy ...

If that were it, the girl would be getting better, not worse, since she is no longer with her mother.

34 posted on 02/25/2014 5:07:40 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: No One Special

The child’s blood will forever stain that POS hands. God may forgive him; I will not.

Anybody who still thinks their is justice in this country is a fool. A nation of laws has become a nation of cowards. Brave New World, 1984, Atlas Shrugged, Soylent Green and the Matthew Bracken trilogy all wrapped up into one.

Soap box - regime controls what you hear, say or see.
Ballot box - the dead and the illegals control
Jury box - Corrupt, evil, spineless, etc.
Cartridge box - for how long?


35 posted on 02/25/2014 5:08:05 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: No One Special

per young caller to WRKO just now there is a protest going on at MA State House right now-


36 posted on 02/25/2014 5:14:10 AM PST by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: fatnotlazy
So why wasn’t a third doctor or third team of doctors brought in to review the records and examine the child?

My thoughts, exactly. Rather than put the girl at risk and her parents in such an awful situation - for over a year now - why not bring in a third party team of doctors?

Let's assume for a nanosecond (for us products of the public education system, that's not very long) that all involved want the best for the child If that is the case, why not do what's best for the child, and that is obviously NOT taking her out of her family's custody and changing her treatment.

I understand that the doctor at Tufts that first diagnosed and treated her has offered to consult with the doctor at Boston Childrens that brought in DCF, but the latter has refused. How can that be in the best interst of the girl???

37 posted on 02/25/2014 5:20:18 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: fruser1

Although the story doesn’t say so, my understanding is that the diagnosis was made by a doctor at Tufts who is an expert on the disease. The diagnosis at Boston Childrens was made by a newly licensed (less than one year) doctor, who apparently refuses to consult with the doctor at Tufts.


38 posted on 02/25/2014 5:23:36 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: BonRad

Thanks for the update. Do you have a link to listen on the radio?


39 posted on 02/25/2014 5:27:36 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: jda

I think you’re right. Furthermore, I have heard it alleged that the Children’s doctor is vying for a grant that is for proving that mitochondrial disease does not exist. This doctor, I understand, is a psychiatrist. So it could be the motivation for this seeming injustice is pure greed.


40 posted on 02/25/2014 5:29:54 AM PST by No One Special
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To: Whenifhow

If you have a player like windows media player, this should bring up the show:

http://1451.live.streamtheworld.com:3690/WRKOAM_SC


41 posted on 02/25/2014 5:32:12 AM PST by No One Special
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To: Whenifhow

http://player.tritonmedia.com/entercom/WRKOAM

I listen 3-4 times a week until last couple weeks, coincidently Kuhner’s been taking this up much over this time as he just stated tweets emails have been huge on same subject over these past two weeks...


42 posted on 02/25/2014 5:36:21 AM PST by BonRad (The world is full of educated derelicts-Calvin Coolidge)
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To: goldi

Have to agree, I think it is getting to be the same everywhere; after all, the state knows best!


43 posted on 02/25/2014 5:40:50 AM PST by Socraticus
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff I was involved in a case as a witness and foster parent a few years back involving family. I will say with experience that the only truth allowed to be told in a court room is what the judge and the state Schmucks running so called Children's Services want to be told. IOW Their version of the truth to suit their agenda.

As a witness trying to tell the whole truth I was found in contempt by an arrogant senile judge who thought he was the almighty and had missed his morning nap and Irish Coffee.

Children's Services in many states often due to gross incompetence harm more children than they ever help and Truth of what actually happen be damned and for that matter also the welfare of the child. Many caseworkers {not all} are Village Idiot Liberal Idealist with Zero parenting experience. The good ones don't hang around long usually.

44 posted on 02/25/2014 5:41:03 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: No One Special
You know....I think all those "health privacy acts" are designed just so the government can do what ever it wants behind closed doors....

I can't see where its to our benefit at all..!!

I don't recall having privacy problems before HIPPA...whatever the heck that is...!

45 posted on 02/25/2014 6:03:24 AM PST by unread (Rescind the 17th. Amendment...bring the power BACK to the states...!)
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To: unread

Makes a lot of sense.


46 posted on 02/25/2014 6:09:41 AM PST by No One Special
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To: BonRad

Thanks for the link.
Listening to the expert who says without the treatment that Justina had from Tuff’s she will die.


47 posted on 02/25/2014 6:14:20 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: No One Special

IIRC her sister has the same disease..kinda interesting isn’t it...


48 posted on 02/25/2014 6:16:50 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: No One Special
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/20/what-we-found-in-a-boston-childrens-hospital-policy-manual-about-research-on-wards-of-the-state/

Hospital policy - research allowed on " wards of the state" children

49 posted on 02/25/2014 6:22:06 AM PST by opentalk
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To: nvscanman

“If this child dies what MUST happen is the judge responsible for this travesty has to be hunted down
tarred, feathered and hung. NONE of these abuses
are possible without the complicity of blackrobed”

I was actually thinking in harsher terms. As a matter of fact, going after the juidges family wouldn’t seem too extreme to me since he seems to think that the destruction of the family is perfectly OK.


50 posted on 02/25/2014 6:26:56 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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