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Michael Sam: Combine Results and Instant Reaction
bleacherreport.com ^ | 2/25/14 | Tyler Conway

Posted on 02/25/2014 3:49:32 AM PST by DoodleDawg

NFL teams have met Michael Sam, the person. They unsurprisingly came away with glowing reviews. But when it comes to Michael Sam, the football player, workouts at the 2014 NFL Scouting Combine proved why some teams have concerns about his acclimation to playing on Sundays.

Sam's drill performances and athletic times were a mixed bag, as the former Missouri standout finished about average among defensive ends. While that's to be expected for a mid-round prospect like Sam—especially given the immense spotlight he's been under since announcing that he is gay—the reaction from NFL teams will be interesting to watch.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; michaelsams; nfl
A 4.91 forty. Broadjump of about 9 feet. Only 17 reps of 225 pounds. None of those are NFL caliber scores. The obvious answer is that all those tests are biased against him because he's gay. </sarcasm>
1 posted on 02/25/2014 3:49:33 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
4.9 / 40? Slow as my grandma. Only 12 reps of 225 on the bench press - WEAK

He's going to the front office or something, not the field - he's slow and weak. He played it smart though. He knows he doesn't have the physical attributes to play in the USFL let alone the NFL - he gets the LSM cheering for him - bingo -

2 posted on 02/25/2014 3:56:24 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Of course, you won’t here these average stats discussed on ESPN today.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 3:58:46 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: atc23
Only 12 reps of 225 on the bench press - WEAK

Seventeen reps actually. But still not an impressive show. It pretty much confirms him as a mid to low rounder and probably someone who can be successful on the line only if he's surrounded by better talent. Pretty much like he was at Mizzou.

4 posted on 02/25/2014 4:02:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

His future is not as a tight end, but instead a wide receiver.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 4:09:49 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: DoodleDawg

He had better be the number one overall pick though.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 4:10:07 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DoodleDawg
With those stats and the combination of the media circus he would create for a team it might be hard for him to get drafted. That would be a real freaking shame, I'm sure everyone was looking forward to non-stop gay issue promotion and reporting on NFL Sundays.
7 posted on 02/25/2014 4:13:09 AM PST by erod
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To: erod
With those stats and the combination of the media circus he would create for a team it might be hard for him to get drafted.

You would think. But he's the first openly gay player entering the draft. I have no doubt that the NFL will tell some team "You will draft him" just so they can avoid all the "He wasn't drafted because he's a homosexual" comments.

8 posted on 02/25/2014 4:19:44 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Isn’t he supposed to be light in his sneakers?


9 posted on 02/25/2014 4:20:36 AM PST by mindburglar (Karl Rove will call Ted Cruz a "white hispanic".)
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To: mindburglar
Isn’t he supposed to be light in his sneakers?

So he says. Obviously doesn't translate to speed in the 40.

10 posted on 02/25/2014 4:22:26 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

17 reps @ 225 lbs...really?

I might call that limp wristed for a NFL defensive end...

20 years ago when I was in my 30’s I could do that....

With dead weights....


11 posted on 02/25/2014 4:23:15 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: icwhatudo

Yeah, I’m thinking his tight end days are behind him.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 4:24:48 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: DoodleDawg

If he were a white Christian from the South, he would be looking for a job selling used cars by now.


13 posted on 02/25/2014 4:35:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: DoodleDawg
You're 100% correct. I suspect it will be one of the NY teams, or the Patriots..with a 5th round pick....Goodell will tell them they have to "take one for the league"

I was watching "NFL Insiders" on ESPN yesterday. They were discussing Sam. One of the guests said that all the media attention the last few weeks might have emotionally drained Sam, been a huge distraction, and thus affected his performance at the combine. Bill Polian, former Colts GM..jumped all over that, said "EXACTLY!! a distraction!! and that's why NFL teams HATE distractions."

14 posted on 02/25/2014 4:47:07 AM PST by ken5050 (I fear a world run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating)
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To: DoodleDawg
You would think. But he's the first openly gay player entering the draft. I have no doubt that the NFL will tell some team "You will draft him" just so they can avoid all the "He wasn't drafted because he's a homosexual" comments.

But what owner would want someone that you can't cut (He was only cut because he's gay) that you can't discipline (He's only in trouble because he's gay) and who will bring discord and disease into the locker room?

Not to mention the well deserved damage to the teams reputation (Tampa Gay bucaneers!, Dallas cowgirls, etc etc etc)

I can't see any owner allowing himself to be afflcited with this (unless there were several bonus draft picks involved. Say one bonus pick per round for the next three years.

Football is a game for men, not for faggots. If I wanted to watch faggots I'd watch figure skating.

15 posted on 02/25/2014 4:48:27 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: DoodleDawg

I’m sure that the NFL will lower their standards to be more “inclusive.” I’m in my 50s with bad knees and a rebuilt left ankle, but if I was black and gay, I’d have a shot.


16 posted on 02/25/2014 4:49:45 AM PST by Freestate316 (Know what you believe and why you believe it.)
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To: DoodleDawg

On PFT, I posted to a “Sam” thread (written by Mike Florio) that allowing homosexuals in the NFL would have serious repercussions.

Since these perverts are more likely to have AIDS from their anal teabagging, their blood becomes a danger to normal players.

Obviously in an NFL game, bloody cuts & gashes occur and ultimately that blood will infect a heterosexual player.

Lawsuits from that infection and ultimate death will bankrupt the teams and NFL.

Not surprising, PFT deleted my post to keep the truth off their website.


17 posted on 02/25/2014 4:56:15 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: DoodleDawg

The guy can’t make the grade on his own.....stand by for affirmative action for queers.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 4:57:02 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: DoodleDawg

If this guy hadn’t announced he was gay we would never had heard of him. With these numbers he might wind up on the taxi squad.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 5:23:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: demshateGod

He won’t be the #1 pick, but some of the mock drafts have him sneaking into the first round, taken by the Super Bowl champion Seahawks.

As I’ve said on other threads: Michael Sam’s decision to come out now is aimed at enhancing his NFL prospects, pure and simple. On talent alone, Sam is a mid-to-late round selection and there are plenty of GMs who would only offer a free agent contract.

But, as the “first openly gay prospect,” Sam made himself the focus of the combine and there are plenty of “progressive” organizations in the NFL who would be willing to take a chance on him, including the Steelers, the Patriots and of course, Seattle.

And once he’s in camp, Sam becomes very difficult to cut, for the negative publicity it would bring. I can easily see Michael Sam getting dumped onto the developmental squad (ahead of better players) because the team likes the favorable publicity of having the first gay player.

If that happens, Sam will be poison in the club house. NFL players want to win, and they don’t want the front office doing favors for players who don’t measure up.

But, because he’s gay, I can see Sam hanging around the league for 4-5 years—far longer than his career should last.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 5:26:26 AM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: ken5050
You're 100% correct. I suspect it will be one of the NY teams, or the Patriots..with a 5th round pick....Goodell will tell them they have to "take one for the league"

And in a way that may have been the idea all along. Sams is a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them. He is a very bright and articulate individual...who had to know that his chances of being drafted were marginal at best. He also had to know that if he announced his sexual orientation then the NFL would panic at the thought of being seen as homophobic. By announcing, he's pretty much guaranteed to be drafted in some round and at least given a better shot than he could have expected otherwise. He probably figures that he'll have a chance to play his way on to a team as a result. Not a bad plan once you think about it. We'll see if it works.

21 posted on 02/25/2014 5:42:19 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
I have no doubt that the NFL will tell some team "You will draft him" just so they can avoid all the "He wasn't drafted because he's a homosexual" comments.

Here's how this will play out. He will get drafted. I will be shocked if it's before round seven. He'll last until the final cutdown to the 53-man roster, unless he is injured and receives an "injury settlement". He will not play nary a Sunday on an active roster. He may get picked up and put on someone's practice squad where he will spend his entire career, however long or brief it is.

22 posted on 02/25/2014 5:42:34 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: DoodleDawg
And in a way that may have been the idea all along. Sams is a lot of things but stupid isn't one of them. He is a very bright and articulate individual...who had to know that his chances of being drafted were marginal at best. He also had to know that if he announced his sexual orientation then the NFL would panic at the thought of being seen as homophobic. By announcing, he's pretty much guaranteed to be drafted in some round and at least given a better shot than he could have expected otherwise. He probably figures that he'll have a chance to play his way on to a team as a result. Not a bad plan once you think about it. We'll see if it works.

He's got a guaranteed nice billet in the MSM, whichever way it turns out.

23 posted on 02/25/2014 5:45:09 AM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: ExNewsExSpook
but some of the mock drafts have him sneaking into the first round, taken by the Super Bowl champion Seahawks.

No. 3rd round at the very earliest. Probably 4th to UDFA. This was always the case. And most NFL teams knew Sam was gay before he publicly announced it.

As I’ve said on other threads: Michael Sam’s decision to come out now is aimed at enhancing his NFL prospects, pure and simple. On talent alone, Sam is a mid-to-late round selection and there are plenty of GMs who would only offer a free agent contract.

The word around the university is that someone was going to out him and he went proactive.

24 posted on 02/25/2014 5:45:15 AM PST by the808bass ( I am the rodeo clown for your pain.)
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To: John O
Football is a game for men, not for faggots.

He will get chop-blocked, blow out a knee or two and be given a bus ticket home by the men on the team.

25 posted on 02/25/2014 5:48:25 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: LibLieSlayer
If he were a white Christian from the South, he would be looking for a job selling used cars by now.

QFT...thumbs up!!!

26 posted on 02/25/2014 5:54:36 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

Thank you!


27 posted on 02/25/2014 6:25:13 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: DoodleDawg

I regularly see guys doing 17 reps of 225 or more at my local YMCA. It’s the 4.9 / 40 that is seriously not impressive for someone trying to make waves with scouts. It’s not like he’s a 340 lb offensive lineman or something


28 posted on 02/25/2014 7:02:45 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Popman

I’m 55 with a bum elbow and I can do a 10 rep set of 180 lbs. I think I could do a 5.6 / 40 if I was being chased by the ex wife. I could go at least in the 5th or 6th round - oh, I’m a white guy - nevermind


29 posted on 02/25/2014 7:10:20 AM PST by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Someone will sign him, just like the Nets signed Jay Collins to a 10 day contract. Somewhere out there, there’s a liberal owner who will sign this guy because of his sexual orientation and not his football skills. I think a 5th round pick may be too high for Sam, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was signed as a UFA just to serve as a prop piece.


30 posted on 02/25/2014 7:26:19 AM PST by erod
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To: DoodleDawg

After the 3rd round...which Sam likely won’t make....there’s not that much difference in subsequent rounds between the CBA pay scale and the rookie minimum..I expect they’ll want Sam to end up in a city where he can get a lot of endorsement $$$.


31 posted on 02/25/2014 10:12:56 AM PST by ken5050 (I fear a world run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating)
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To: Popman

225 x 20 4 sets. On my 5oth birthday.


32 posted on 02/25/2014 11:28:24 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: mindburglar

back to my favorite tag.


33 posted on 02/26/2014 9:24:23 PM PST by mindburglar (When Superman and Batman fight, the only winner is crime.)
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