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Holder: State Attorneys General Donít Have to Defend Same-Sex Marriage Bans
Time ^ | Feb. 24, 2014 | Alex Fitzpatrick

Posted on 02/25/2014 6:22:39 AM PST by Qbert

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a New York Times interview published Monday that state attorneys general aren’t required to defend laws they consider discriminatory, including bans on same-sex marriage.

Holder said that state attorneys general should carefully analyze laws that raise major constitutional issues before deciding whether to defend them.

“Engaging in that process and making that determination is something that’s appropriate for an attorney general to do,” Holder told the Times.

To make his case, Holder said that if he were an attorney general “in Kansas in 1953,” he “would not have defended a Kansas statute that put in place separate-but-equal facilities.”

Six state attorneys general have decided against defending their states’ same-sex marriage bans from challenges, inviting criticism from those who argue an attorney general’s job is to defend their respective state’s laws regardless of their personal attitudes towards those laws.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biggerrigger; ericholder; gaymarriage; holder; rigthevote; voterigger

"U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said in a New York Times interview published Monday that state attorneys general aren’t required to defend laws they consider discriminatory..."

Well, then. Given that abortion laws discriminate against the rights of unborn children, I say we get to work...

1 posted on 02/25/2014 6:22:39 AM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Then I guess the states do not have to enforce the ObamaCare law either, right?

I guess states don’t have to abide by any executive order by the lawless Obama, right. See, others can play lawless too.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 6:24:33 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Qbert

Laws have become meaningless.

America is truly becoming a banana republic.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 6:25:41 AM PST by greene66
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To: Qbert

Since when does Holder have any authority over STATE AG’s???

Who is he to grant them permission to do or not do anything?


4 posted on 02/25/2014 6:27:41 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Qbert

Can they also ignore EPA directives that they disagree with?


5 posted on 02/25/2014 6:29:53 AM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: greene66
Laws have become meaningless.
America is truly becoming a banana republic.

Isn't America (and the West) the biggest customer of the drug business? I remember those trite sayings from the 60's. Do you remember: "Bad laws are made to be broken"??

Insanity reigns when druggies reign.

6 posted on 02/25/2014 6:32:31 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Qbert

AG’s are subject to the same professional ethics rules as any other lawyer. They cannot do harm to their client. The most they can do is withdraw over claimed conflict with no comments on merits of a case so as to allow somebody else to zealously defend their client.

Holder is trying to get some AG’s dissbarred.


7 posted on 02/25/2014 6:32:34 AM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Qbert

AG advocates ethical malfeasance?


8 posted on 02/25/2014 6:32:36 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: greene66

Using a reference to banana while discussing the current leadership in the US? Everything is racist, even normally innocent colloquialisms. Tread carefully.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 6:32:40 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Nachum

For the list.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 6:33:53 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Obadiah

"I guess states don’t have to abide by any executive order by the lawless Obama, right. See, others can play lawless too."

Yep. And the reality is, that may be the only way to stop them in the end. Sitting around yelping about the "imperial presidency" and "lawlessness" isn't working. Throw the left's tactics right back in their faces until this stops.

11 posted on 02/25/2014 6:34:37 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: greene66

Essentially, the US is becoming a country where the law is made by those with more and bigger guns and can change on the whim of Supreme Leader.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 6:34:54 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Qbert

It is the policy of the chief law enforcement occupant that there is NO NEED to enforce the LAW.

Keep that in mind.


13 posted on 02/25/2014 6:35:51 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Qbert

Would Holder defend the rights of normal people in hard left states who don’t want their children inundated with the fag agenda?


14 posted on 02/25/2014 6:37:10 AM PST by opres
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15 posted on 02/25/2014 6:41:10 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Qbert

Official stated policy of the DOJ is lawlessness. Do they not see that it will come back to bite them? When the government feels entitled to pick and choose the laws it enforces, the people will do likewise. The republic, and the rule of law, collapses.


16 posted on 02/25/2014 6:41:48 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Obadiah

Except executive orders ARE NOT LAW.

Article I, Section 1 of the Constitution says:

“All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”

What we often overlook is that little three letter word at the beginning. “All” does not mean “most” or “some”.

I do grant that we HAVE drifted from this Constitutional principle, but we need to get BACK to it! We also need to get back to federalism.


17 posted on 02/25/2014 6:42:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mr. K

Who is he? Well, he’s the monarch’s Minister of Just Us.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 6:44:46 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: Qbert

“Holder said that state attorneys general should carefully analyze laws that raise major constitutional issues before deciding whether to defend them.”

Good. States can now refuse to obey unconstitutional dictates from Washington. We can start by banning fascist federal bureaucrats from states and giving black-robed commies 24 hours to leave.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 6:44:59 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: SoFloFreeper

"It is the policy of the chief law enforcement occupant that there is NO NEED to enforce the LAW."

And once again, the GOP is asleep at the switch.

20 posted on 02/25/2014 6:45:22 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I understand the distinction, the larger point is that the nation’s top law guy is telling states to ignore certain laws. If the Left wants to pick and choose and the corrupt MSM tacitly approve, then others should be free to pick and choose what laws or directives they are inclined to follow, or not.


21 posted on 02/25/2014 6:45:48 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Qbert

AGs that won’t enforce the law should be jailed. If they don’t like their job, they should resign.


22 posted on 02/25/2014 6:47:08 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Qbert

Are states’ attorneys general also going to be permitted/required to enforce laws that don’t exist but that the US AG thinks would be proper?


23 posted on 02/25/2014 6:47:22 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: opres

Let me think... That would be no. Hell no.


24 posted on 02/25/2014 6:52:34 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Qbert
Since when are the Attorneys General of the sovereign States answerable to comrade Beria Holder?
25 posted on 02/25/2014 6:53:44 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Qbert

Corruption of the U.S Judicial system of the highest order. He’s not saying State Attorney Generals don’t have to prosecute laws they feel are discriminatory, he’s saying they don’t have to prosecute laws that the Attorney General of the U.S feels is discriminatory.


26 posted on 02/25/2014 7:04:19 AM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Qbert

islamism


27 posted on 02/25/2014 7:14:04 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Qbert

Obama Administration:
If we don’t like a law nobody has to enforce it.
If we like a law enforcement is mandatory.
If we disagree with a new law we will sue your state.
Kangaroo courts and prison camps to follow.
All we need is a big enough ‘crisis.’


28 posted on 02/25/2014 7:18:40 AM PST by servo1969
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To: Obadiah

I agree.


29 posted on 02/25/2014 7:37:15 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Obadiah

Ignoring Presidential Term Limit is next


30 posted on 02/25/2014 7:58:24 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Qbert

Holder almost got it right. Drop the words “attorneys general” from the quote, and substitute “unconstitutional” for “discriminatory”


31 posted on 02/25/2014 7:59:46 AM PST by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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To: Qbert
"...state attorneys general aren’t required to defend laws they consider discriminatory..."

Wow. From the US Attorney General.

Wow.

32 posted on 02/25/2014 8:17:16 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Qbert

There a lot of ways to go with this. For instance, State AGs won’t have to defend firearms laws which are unconstitutional. I think Holder might be on to something.


33 posted on 02/25/2014 9:20:54 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Qbert

“It’s the law, but you don’t have to follow it...”

Good. Guess who’s going to stop following the NFA...


34 posted on 02/25/2014 9:23:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Obadiah
Then I guess the states do not have to enforce the ObamaCare law either, right? It is apparent that Holder has formally endorsed the reality on the ground, namely that we are now living in a lawless state. From this point on, every GOP gevernor should say, "Following the example of the President and endorsement of the Attorney General, from this point on we will no longer enforce gun restrictions we believe violate the Second Amendment, ..." or fill in the blank. You sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind. This should relieve the Nervous Nellies on our side who caterwaul nonsense about "following the law." There is no law as of this date, so "breaking" the law is a matter of utilitarian consideration, i.e. "Can I get away with it?"
35 posted on 02/25/2014 9:52:15 AM PST by crusher (GREEN: Globaloney for the Gullible)
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To: crusher

Exactly.


36 posted on 02/25/2014 10:11:52 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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37 posted on 02/25/2014 11:29:01 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Qbert
Holder: State Attorneys General Don’t Have to Defend Same-Sex Marriage Bans

Is it racist to make the observation that most individuals on the levers of government today, transforming the US government into a criminal enterprise are black?

From the top down.
The exact reverse of the objectives of the Constitution, which, by sheer accident begins with the words...

WE THE PEOPLE..."

38 posted on 02/25/2014 11:32:08 AM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Obadiah

TX AG Greg Abbott has fought against 0Care, repeatedly. I guess he, as AG, can decide to just completely ignore any and all 0Care laws for TX. Good. Two can play that game.


39 posted on 02/25/2014 11:34:26 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Qbert

Exactly right...
Gee, Holder, let’s not enforce tax laws, anti-gun laws, EPA sh!t laws, animal abuse laws, hmmmm?
We live in a totalitarian state where the vote and established laws mean nothing...until it hits our door steps (or the press’ news rooms), no one will give a crap.....buy ammo.


40 posted on 02/25/2014 3:12:16 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Qbert

- AG Eric Holder and b. hussein obama junior have financial/business ties to drug cartel kingpin Gutman


41 posted on 02/26/2014 6:31:31 AM PST by devolve (- and so I face the vinyl curtain - I will misspell simple words - I do it - my whey)
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To: publius911

- This is a Chocolate……

- former New Orleans Mayor Nagin


42 posted on 02/26/2014 6:36:53 AM PST by devolve (- and so I face the vinyl curtain - I will misspell simple words - I do it - my whey)
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