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Pictured: Shocking moment doting son was killed with single punch. (UK) -
Dailymail ^ | 25 February 2014 | JAMES RUSH

Posted on 02/25/2014 10:39:23 AM PST by klpt

This is the shocking moment a pedestrian was killed by a single punch after he got into a row about cycling on the pavement. Andrew Young, 40, became involved in an argument with cyclist Victor Ibitoye after he told him that cycling on the pavement was dangerous. The cyclist rode off but moments later his friend, Lewis Gill, approached Mr Young, who suffered from Asperger’s Syndrome, and punched him in the face without provocation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: asperger; aspergers; knockoutgame

1 posted on 02/25/2014 10:39:23 AM PST by klpt
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2 posted on 02/25/2014 10:41:26 AM PST by klpt
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To: klpt

Appears that polar bear hunting goes on in Britain by THEIR Yutes.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 10:43:58 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: klpt

Look at the neck of that brute.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 10:48:17 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: House Atreides

he’s a big one.Nothing smaller than a .357 for him.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 10:48:50 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: klpt

Jailing a black murderer for more than 5 years who killed a white man would be.. Racist.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 10:51:29 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: klpt
Presently he began to fidget on his seat. At last he stood up, waddled clumsily across the cell, dug down into the pocket of his overalls, and, with an abashed air, held out a grimy piece of bread to the skull-faced man.

There was a furious, deafening roar from the telescreen. The chinless man jumped in his tracks. The skull-faced man had quickly thrust his hands behind his back, as though demonstrating to all the world that he refused the gift.

"Bumstead!" roared the voice. "2713 Bumstead J! Let fall that piece of bread."

The chinless man obeyed. His large pouchy cheeks were quivering uncontrollably. The door clanged open. As the young officer entered and stepped aside, there emerged from behind him a short stumpy guard with enormous arms and shoulders. He took his stand opposite the chinless man, and then, at a signal from the officer, let free a frightful blow, with all the weight of his body behind it, full in the chinless man's mouth. The force of it seemed to knock him clear of the floor. His body was flung across the cell and fetched up against the base of the lavatory seat. For a moment he lay as though stunned, with dark blood oozing from his mouth and nose. A very faint whimpering or squeaking, which seemed unconscious, came out of him. Then he rolled over and raised himself unsteadily on hands and knees. Amid a stream of blood and saliva, two halves of a dental plate fell out of his mouth.

The prisoners sat very still, their hands crossed on their knees. The chinless man climbed back into his place. Down one side of his face the flesh was darkening. His mouth had swollen into a shapless cherry-colored mass with a black hole in the middle of it. From time to time a little blood dripped onto the breast of his overalls. His gray eyes still flitted from face to face, more guiltily than ever, as though he were trying to discover how much the others despised him for his humiliation.

From George Orwell's 1984
7 posted on 02/25/2014 10:51:55 AM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: klpt

Don’t argue with thugs unless you can shoot them.


8 posted on 02/25/2014 10:57:49 AM PST by pallis
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To: klpt

See the girl friend/companion fixing her hair? She watches the assault while fussing with her pony tail, and calmly walks on. Her lackadaisical response is almost as bad as the assault itself.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 11:00:43 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: klpt

Before knowing the race of the thug, my thought was that life without parole would be appropriate. Now that I know, I hope even a protected minority will get the appropriate sentence for an evil and violent act.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 11:06:43 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: klpt

Part out Lewis Gill for his organs, then every morning he can wake up having contributed to society, ... for a while.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 11:09:13 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

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12 posted on 02/25/2014 11:10:05 AM PST by glorgau
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13 posted on 02/25/2014 11:16:57 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: klpt
Mr Young, who suffered from Asperger’s Syndrome

People are no longer a$$holes. They "suffer from Asperger’s Syndrome." Then they're called "doting sons." Gimme a break.

Obviously the attacker should go down. I don't think he meant to kill the guy, but he did, and that's that - he should do time for it. If you're big and you don't mind punching people, then you have a serious responsibility to be able gauge your punches. Otherwise... you might kill somebody.

On the other hand, just because this guy died doesn't mean he wasn't a petty, arrogant jackass just looking for a punch. Blocking bicycle riders and shooting off your mouth, in the real world, is a very good way to get into a fight. I'm not defending it, I'm stating a really simple fact. And 99.9999% of the time we're talking about a black eye, and not death.

14 posted on 02/25/2014 11:19:42 AM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I have a dear dear friend who has a son with Asperger’s Syndrome. You have to educate this child every day on what is and is not appropriate social interaction.

Asperger’s Syndrome is an inability to determine appropriate responses to feedback. The Asperger’s sufferer does not grasp subtleties such as sarcasm. They cannot properly read and interpret visual cues such as body language. The Asperger’s sufferer sees the world as very black and white. They say what is on their mind - if they observe something good they say so. If they observe something inappropriate they say so.

Yes, the Asperger’s sufferer can come across as an “asshole” and a “loud mouth jerk” to a casual observer. The difference is that the Asperger’s sufferer almost always lacks the requisite “attitude” and intent to be a jerk or an asshole. They truly do not understand that they are being rude.


15 posted on 02/25/2014 11:27:41 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: klpt

Psychotic son of a b**** should have been hanged, not sent away for a few years.

But then, we are too “civilized” for that anymore, right?


16 posted on 02/25/2014 11:33:52 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Pollster1
He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall surebly be put to death. — Exodus 21:12

Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. — Ecclesiastes 8:11
The story in the OP is exemplary of what happens to society when we get away from that standard.
17 posted on 02/25/2014 11:34:11 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Talisker

Blocking bicycle riders and shooting off your mouth, in the real world, is a very good way to get into a fight.”

So, let me get this straight: Arrogant bike riding dude illegally riding on a sidewalk, possibly endangering pedestrians, gets a reprimand from a much smaller guy and its an invitation to a possibly fatal punch in the face, right?


18 posted on 02/25/2014 11:40:57 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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Blocking bicycle riders and shooting off your mouth,

Better to walk with cane and stick into spokes when arrogant bike riding dude rides on sidewalk.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 12:05:09 PM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

The thing about people with “Asperger’s Syndrome” is that they are well able to learn a lot of other things. In fact, they are often very intelligent. What is amazing is that they just can’t get a clue about being an “a$$hole.”

That’s why I think it’s bunk. I think “Asperger’s Syndrome” people ARE a$$holes who have figured out how to game the system. In the past, they’d get the snot kicked out of them, and they’d knock it off. Smack a kid across the mouth, and it gets his attention. Have a kid get into a fight and get beat up at school for being a jackass, and he learns.

NONE of that exists anymore - on pain of jail.

“Asperger’s Syndrome” people have figured that out. At whatever age, they realized that the bottom line is that they were NEVER going to be seriously stopped for being an a$$hole. And so my interpretation of what an “Asperger’s Syndrome” person is is simple: they are sadists. They know how to psychologically and emotionally hurt people, they ARE well aware of social conventions, and they violate them for sheer enjoyment.

Add some antidepressants to the mix, and the last vestiges of guilt or shame are chemically erased.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 12:16:34 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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So, let me get this straight: Arrogant bike riding dude illegally riding on a sidewalk, possibly endangering pedestrians, gets a reprimand from a much smaller guy and its an invitation to a possibly fatal punch in the face, right?

I the real world, on the street, of course! "Much smaller guy" - what a sob story. What part of ON THE STREET don't you get? I'm not writing a morality play here. I'm talking about what happens when someone ont he street blocks another person and verbally attacks them. Why is this so difficult to understand?

21 posted on 02/25/2014 12:18:44 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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And 99.9999% of the time we're talking about a black eye, and not death.

Striking anybody in the head is an assault which can lead to death either by direct concussion or hitting the ground.

Anybody striking somebody like this is guilty of assault trying to commit grievous bodily harm or death and should be treated as such. A "black eye" is a schoolyard scuffle. This is not what this was. This was deliberate manslaughter.

22 posted on 02/25/2014 12:35:24 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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LOL, what wold you call a street fight, then? People attempting to murder each other because they are throwing punches?

Fighting is fighting. I’m well aware of the possible results.


23 posted on 02/25/2014 12:43:17 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Fighting is fighting.

Oh, give me a break. This wasn't a "fight" where two guys puff themselves up over something and then manfully decide to duke it out.

This was a criminal assault by an unknown assailant on a perfect stranger who he felt "insulted" his friend and whom he decided to "teach a lesson" - and then whom he ambushed with a punch to the head.

The consequences were somewhat predictable for this excessive use of deadly force. And it was deadly.

24 posted on 02/25/2014 1:09:01 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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Oh, give me a break. This wasn't a "fight" where two guys puff themselves up over something and then manfully decide to duke it out.

"Puff themselves up" and "manfully decide"?

LOL, you've never been in a fight, have you? And besides that, your obvious contempt for manliness is dripping down your chin.

It was a street fight.

Street fights are deadly.

Bar fights are deadly.

Grow up.

25 posted on 02/25/2014 2:14:54 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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Guess you know better than pretty much every neurologist and specialist in autistic spectrum disorders then? Yes, people with Aspergers can be very intelligent in some ways, but incredibly “dumb” in others. The thing about the human brain is that intelligence is not a singular thing, it can be divided into sections, and people will often excel in some ways and struggle in others. People with Aspergers do genuinely struggle to understand how to respond to social situations, and those who do end up getting beaten by thugs and bullies will often fail to understand why they alienate people, and cope by simply withdrawing from a lot of human interaction instead.
I’m guessing from your attitude that you think that beating somebody up, even if they are a lot weaker than you is a perfectly acceptable response to somebody saying something to you that you don’t like?


26 posted on 02/25/2014 3:52:33 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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So, you are telling me that a child with Asperger’s is sophisticated enough to develop the intent to “be an asshole” and “game the system”. Sophisticated enough to form the intent to “psychologically and emotionally hurt people” - even their parents and grand parents.

Even the one’s who do “get the snot kicked out of them” - perhaps even killed by a single punch to the head.

Interesting analysis.


27 posted on 02/26/2014 4:06:47 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

On “BBC News 24” on the night of the sentencing a guest Barrister stated that the sentence was so lenient due to provocation. It is clear from the video that the victim made no move to physically threaten them so I suppose the killer and his two friends must have told the Police he racially abused them.

Given that there was no CCTV audio and the people standing around were oblivious, there must be no evidence to contradict their story. A bleeding-heart PC judge (as this one obviously was) would doubtless have felt obliged to give the killer a much reduced sentence for manslaughter after hearing a robustly fabricated racial abuse claim from the defendant and his associates.

Regrettably, street thugs always know how best to play the system. It is a shame the Judiciary are so clueless.


28 posted on 03/02/2014 10:56:16 AM PST by Lord Flash
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Regrettably, street thugs always know how best to play the system. It is a shame the Judiciary are so clueless.


Correction:

It’s a shame the Judiciary are so complicit.


29 posted on 03/02/2014 11:08:16 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 3Fingas; Navy Patriot; Pollster1; ZULU; miss marmelstein; pallis
Unfortunately, it gets even worse:

Killing a man? 'It's no big deal': A sneer from mother of thug who punched Asperger's sufferer

The despicable attitude of the killer's mother is just further evidence of how the absence of any sense of personal responsibility has now reached epidemic proportions in the precariat (precarious proletariat).

In my opinion, a ghastly combination of crass consumerism and socialist hand-out culture has morally degraded them. They are now trained from birth to be profoundly selfish, materialistic, hateful, brutal and to have absolutely no ambition to earn a better future through honest work and self-reliance.

30 posted on 03/02/2014 11:53:19 AM PST by Lord Flash
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To: Lord Flash

Part of it. Another part is a species of racism that needs no manifest statement it is such. Its delivered in the attitude. He and his family, like the family in the White House, are black racists - pure and simple.

And another example of what too generous an immigration policy begets.


31 posted on 03/02/2014 4:03:40 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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