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In Ukraine turbulence, a lad from Lviv becomes the toast of Kiev
reuters.com ^ | February 25, 2014 | Richard Balmforth

Posted on 02/25/2014 1:30:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

When the history of the bloody turbulence in Ukraine is written, a 26-year-old who learned combat skills in the army cadets may be recorded as the man who made up Viktor Yanukovich's mind to cut and run.

Cars toot a welcome and passers-by press the hand of Volodymyr Parasiuk, a boyish-looking individual who finds it embarrassing to be called a hero.

He reserves that title for his comrades and other protesters among the 80 or so people killed on the capital's streets last week in three days of fighting against Yanukovich's police.

But after opposition leaders had signed an EU-brokered deal with President Yanukovich to end the conflict, it was Parasiuk who commandeered the microphone on Friday night to turn the crowd against it.

With former boxing champion and opposition leader Vitaly Klitschko looking on stony-faced, Parasiuk, from the western city of Lviv, made an electrifying impromptu speech denouncing the opposition for "shaking hands with this killer".

No-one was going to wait for an election later in the year, he said. Yanukovich had to get out of town by the following morning or face the consequences.

To the dismay of opposition leaders, Parasiuk's emotional address - he broke down on several occasions as he remembered dead comrades - touched a chord deep within the thousands on Independence Square who roared their approval.

The opposition had failed to sell their achievements to the 'Maidan', the name for both the square and the protest movement.

An agreement, painstakingly negotiated with EU foreign ministers over a sleepless night, was effectively dead.

The writing was on the wall for Yanukovich.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: eussr
The EU Eurocrats pressured the Ukrainians to make a deal and shake hands with their corrupt treacherous mass-murdering oppressor, but the people of Ukraine have had enough.
1 posted on 02/25/2014 1:30:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Who will be our Volodymyr Parasiuk when we need him? I hope we he comes forward soon!


2 posted on 02/25/2014 1:37:43 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
thousands on Independence Square who roared their approval.

Is it really that easy for a few thousand people to take over a whole country? It reminds me of the Bolshevik Revolution. The Communists basically took over a few buildings in St. Petersburg and suddenly they were in control of the whole country. How does that happen?

What would happen if a few hundred foreign funded "protesters" started throwing Molotov cocktails at the Secret Service guarding the White House?

3 posted on 02/25/2014 1:54:47 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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“Is it really that easy for a few thousand people to take over a whole country? It reminds me of the Bolshevik Revolution.”

Yes, a firebomb throwing mob, of a few thousand took over. And like the Bolsheviks, they were supported by Germany, for German (EU) goals.

Nobody seems to worry much about how the majority felt.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 2:00:41 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Only about 3 percent of the American population revolted against George III.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 2:03:23 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
What would happen if a few hundred foreign funded "protesters" started throwing Molotov cocktails at the Secret Service guarding the White House?

Your post insinuates that the people in Ukraine fighting, and in some cases dying for freedom were "foreign funded protesters." What makes you think that is true? I would suggest it was evident to the government that far more than a few hundred people opposed them. Otherwise they would have done what our Secret Service would rightly do in such a circumstance - arrest the lot of them.

6 posted on 02/25/2014 2:04:14 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: DesertRhino

The Germans helped broker an agreement to end the uprising and allow Yanukovich to stay in office. If Germany was behind this uprising then it’s safe to say it’s grown out of their control.


7 posted on 02/25/2014 2:09:29 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
"Is it really that easy for a few thousand people to take over a whole country?"

This didn't happen overnight. A lot transpired during the past few months while the media stayed silent keeping us in the dark. The so-called "Protesters" braved the coldest months on that Square. Those who couldn't be there, helped how they could. People prayed. Meanwhile in the good ol' USA, the OWS crowd packed up their tents at the first sign of cold weather. The Tea Party is wishy washy.

America hasn't reached her do or die moment yet.

8 posted on 02/25/2014 2:37:16 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
America hasn't reached her do or die moment yet.

Good.
Still time to find more ammo and prep goods then.

9 posted on 02/25/2014 2:50:16 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: DesertRhino; freeandfreezing

There is some speculation that Soros funded the protesters in order to cause upheaval and benefit from messing around with currencies.

Why is this portrayed as some kind of democratic movement? Half of the country wants to be aligned with the EU and half with Russia. The elected government was overthrown by the people who wanted to ally with the EU. I fail to see this as some great movement towards freedom. In fact, Russia may be freer than most of the EU countries now, in a strange reversal of roles.

Why do we assume we can find bad guys and good guys in any conflict, when it usually boils down to factions fighting for power and spouting lies to fool the people? The woman who was just released from prison carries some suspicious baggage as well.

“Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy.” ~ Franz Kafka


10 posted on 02/25/2014 3:03:36 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“Is it really that easy for a few thousand people to take over a whole country?”

I think there was a perception by the government that much of the country was about to boil over. Those few thousands were just the tip of the spear.

We saw similar things happen in other communist-block nations, such as Romania. When a majority of the population becomes outraged, the leaders usually recognize a lost cause and scoot, because they won’t be able to kill enough people to stem the tide. Hopefully this will happen in Venezuela soon.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 3:07:10 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Kartographer
"Who will be our Volodymyr Parasiuk when we need him? I hope we he comes forward soon!"

"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." The Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V.

12 posted on 02/25/2014 3:30:55 PM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV

And some stand on a corner with a ‘Will work for FOOD’ sign.


13 posted on 02/25/2014 3:58:22 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

>>The Germans helped broker an agreement to end the uprising and allow Yanukovich to stay in office. If Germany was behind this uprising then it’s safe to say it’s grown out of their control<<

Well, when Germans sent Lenin to St.Peterburg to overthrow Tsarist government and knock Russia out of the war in 1917, they haven’t realized that just in 30 years they’ll be forced to bow to said Lenin’s portraits in Berlin and learn Russian just to get any decent job.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 5:18:13 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Pining_4_TX
The elected government was overthrown by the people...

Actually, the elected government was overthrown by the Parliament, whose votes to impeach and/or remove the existing leadership caused the actual shift in control. Those voting included members of all of the parties, including Yanukovich's own party.

I guess by your logic in our nation when Nixon resigned our elected government was overthrown by the people too, except we didn't even need the impeachment vote.

15 posted on 02/25/2014 5:28:35 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Pining_4_TX
The ones who want to ally with the EU are the politicians who tried to make an EU-brokered deal to end the uprising, but the actual freedom fighters rejected the EU deal. Many of those doing the actual street fighting are right-wing groups that oppose the EU: Right Sector - "most of the Right Sector activists do not support the idea of joining the EU, which they consider to be an "oppressor of European nations". The idea that this revolt is all about support for the EU is liberal media spin. This is a revolt against Russian imperialism.
16 posted on 02/25/2014 6:38:11 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Kartographer

He may already be among us in plain sight.


17 posted on 02/25/2014 7:33:54 PM PST by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Only about 3 percent of the American population revolted against George III.

There is no comparison. The Continental Congress was made up of the elected representatives of each of the elected state governments. They voted unanimously to secede and fielded a uniformed army. That army fought over almost the entire breadth of the 13 colonies.

18 posted on 02/26/2014 6:14:25 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: freeandfreezing
Your post insinuates that the people in Ukraine fighting, and in some cases dying for freedom were "foreign funded protesters." What makes you think that is true?

US Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, Nuland said: "Since the declaration of Ukrainian independence in 1991, the United States supported the Ukrainians in the development of democratic institutions and skills in promoting civil society and a good form of government - all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine's European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals." Nuland said the United States will continue to "promote Ukraine to the future it deserves."

If the Ukrainian government had used the army to put down the insurrection, which is their right as a sovereign nation - just ask Abe Lincoln, they would have had US/NATO bombs raining down on their heads. Hell they are saying Yanukovych committed war crimes and crime against humanity because the police dared try to defend themselves against firebomb throwing "protestors".

19 posted on 02/26/2014 6:33:06 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

The police weren’t defending themselves, they were shooting people with sniper rifles who were not directly threatening them. That’s murder. Yanukovych made exactly the wrong move and now he will pay for it. Last time he survived politically because he didn’t try to use force against his own people. Not this time. Whine all you want.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 2:05:14 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Are you saying that the “protestors” were not throwing firebombs at the police? What would happen to “protestors” throwing firebombs at the Secret Service guarding the White House?


21 posted on 02/26/2014 5:01:45 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Yanukovych can tell it to the judge when he is on trial for murder.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 7:15:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: freeandfreezing

The mob in the streets was the cause of what happened next. Parliament acted because it was force to do so. Not the same situation with Nixon at all.


23 posted on 02/26/2014 7:42:40 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Parliament acted because it was force to do so. Not the same situation with Nixon at all.

Really? So you think if the Parliament and the majority of the country had been in favor of the existing government they would have been "forced" to impeach their own leader? That's ridiculous.

And apparently you either don't know about, or have forgotten the tens of thousands of Americans who were out marching in the streets against the government for years before Nixon was forced to resign. Including the ones who died after being shot by the National Guard while Nixon was President.

24 posted on 02/27/2014 4:18:51 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Nixon was impeached for lying and a cover-up. Seems almost quaint today.


25 posted on 02/28/2014 9:58:25 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It was more like 33 percent, but what the hell it was still a minority. And it was a outgunned minority at that.


26 posted on 02/28/2014 10:05:45 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Oh Crap!)
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