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Posted on 02/25/2014 2:59:04 PM PST by NKP_Vet
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer will veto a controversial bill that would allow business owners to refuse service to gays and lesbians on the grounds of their religious conviction, NBC News is reporting via Twitter.
More: Brewer "doesn't want to take any actions that could jeopardize the economic momentum" in Arizona, source says
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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer will veto a controversial bill that would allow business owners to refuse service to gays and lesbians on the grounds of their religious conviction, NBC News is reporting via Twitter.
Brewer has been under intense pressure from business groups and political leaders to diffuse the situation and veto the legislation which they fear will draw unnecessary attention to Arizona a year before it hosts the next Super Bowl and following economic losses on controversial immigration stances.
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Not one dimes worth of difference.
Yep. In modern America, Christians are expected to submit to homosexual activists. And the GOP-E is marching in lockstep with the homosexual activists...including McCain and McFlake in Arizona. Brewer won’t fight the GOP-E on this one.
RELIGIOUS conviction? So, it's evolved beyond sexual practices and has now become a RELIGIOUS issue...........Clever, very clever.
Texas was yellow dog demonrat back then. Didn't shift to the GOP until Reagan/Bush. Note that current Governor Perry was a demonrat who was part of Al Gore's quest for the presidency back in '88.
Re: '64 election. Didn't matter who the GOP ran. Charles Manson could have been the Dem nominee and won in a landslide based on JFK's memory/legacy.
Correct, but a very unpopular sentiment here. I'm not sure on this particular bill, I actually support it - though if I read enough of the counter arguments I might be able to at least see the reasoning.
Your point is correct though. It's no different than elections in our 2 party form of government. So long as we have a winner take all system with no option for coalition government, you will virtually always be voting for the lesser of 2 evils because "pure" candidates can almost never get through the process. Casting a ballot in a general election, for example, is not usually an affirmative vote FOR someone, it is just as often (or perhaps more often) a vote AGAINST a politician who's policies you disagree with even more.
What is sad is how fast the culture/morality has deteriorated that a bill like this would even feel necessary to so many people. I suppose the bright side is there is a libertarian streak that accompanies the normalization of destructive lifestyles, that libertarian streak may also result in more and more people rejecting government at all levels rather than just the social libertarian stuff. Then again, we may just be on the proverbial highway to hell here.
perhaps we made our big mistake when we allowed the state to license us for any and every business...
To be forced to take a license was at one time a big deal....
Religious freedom says don’t bake a cake for a gay? Refuse to do photos for a gay? I don’t understand that. Doesn’t sound very Christian to me.
>Religious freedom says don’t bake a cake for a gay? Refuse to do photos for a gay? I don’t understand that. Doesn’t sound very Christian to me.
Christ says to flee from sin. Christ also says in Matthew 19 that marriage is between a man and a woman.
You be the judge.
As as I can see, this is just another ‘smoothly worded’ disaster waiting to happen.
Pretty sure the intention was just so a bakery wouldn’t have to make a specific cake etal ....
If I owned a bakery, I think that to get around this ‘problem’ you just set up a catalog of cakes that you make for certain events...NO DEVIATIONS.
Then again there is nothing stopping Joes Bakery up the street from putting out the word “WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU PUT ON YOUR CAKE”.
Restaurants do it...They can put ‘mashed potatoes’ on the menu with the Pot Roast and if you want ‘french fries’ they can say it is not on the menu that way.
Same with a cake. Traditional cake has man and woman on top.
Show that in your catalog.
Offer to make a ‘plain cake’ with NO characters on it and direct them to where the figurines are sold.
Plain cake and sell the figurines yourself, separate, in pairs. If you want 2 dudes, or 2 dudettes, buy 2 sets and do with them what you wish. OUTSIDE MY SHOP.
Charge an outlandish price for the figurines if sold separately as it messes up your inventory.
NO, I do not want the ‘extra’ set in case another ‘couple’ shows up.
NO, I will NOT place them on the cake, MY cakes are made with a Man and Woman on top.
Try Joes bakery up the street.
If Joe gets enough referrals from you and you start losing business, that is called Capitalism.
You can’t force people to buy from you BUT if your business suffers because you don’t ‘cater to certain groups’, either change or go out of business.
That is the way they should have handled the smoking situation in bars.
Govt has no problem telling me I CAN’T - under any circumstance in many jurisdictions - allow smoking in MY business, so, in the same vein I should be able to sell what I want - legally.
Let Government set your ‘menu’ and next they will be setting your hours and how many people you can hire.
Then she stupidly is taking the hit, when she could have let the judge take the heat, unless of course she is voting her true conscious.
Is it not a freedom of religion law?
Yep, she's a GOP liberal but has supposedly been skilled at fooling the "conservatives".
and another falls.
jan, you’re a freaking disappointment.
Yea, it says, “Flee temptations” but so many embrace it.
“Religious freedom says don’t bake a cake for a gay? Refuse to do photos for a gay? I don’t understand that. Doesn’t sound very Christian to me.”
What about baking cakes and photographing the following?
Murderers of fathers and mothers
Manslayers
Fornicators
Kidnappers
Liars
Perjurers
In I Timothy 1, the word, “sodomites”, falls between “fornicators” and “kidnappers”. In the Bible, homosexuals (please don’t sugar-coat by using “gay”) are equal to all others in this list. If sodomites are cool, then so are murderers, kidnappers, etc.
Ever heard of freedom?
Good point about the Sharia law thing.
Well, she seemed to put up a good fight against Holder on immigration law but once again consistent conservatism is not in her DNA...pity.
They baked many cakes for gays, just not for same sex weddings; as a photographer who believes it is a sacrilege, she should be forced to attend that wedding to take pictures?
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