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Actor Adam Baldwin: If we accept same-sex ‘marriage’, why not let fathers marry sons for tax breaks?
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2-24-14 | Kirsten Andersen

Posted on 02/25/2014 7:44:37 PM PST by ReformationFan

Adam Baldwin, an actor best known for his performances in Full Metal Jacket, The Patriot and Firefly, outraged homosexual activists last week by questioning why marriage redefinition should not apply to single fathers who love their sons and want to enjoy all the tax benefits of marriage.

“What's wrong, now, with a father marrying his son for love & to avoid tax penalties?” Baldwin wrote on Twitter.

The actor has earned a spot on many liberal ‘enemies lists’ by using the micro-blogging site to share his outspokenly conservative opinions on pro-life, family and second amendment issues.

Baldwin received an avalanche of angry replies criticizing him for comparing homosexuality to incest. He replied: “Who said anything about ‘sex,’ H8rs?! This is a Liberty & ca$h deal! Love ≠ Sex.”

Summing up his detractors’ comments, he added, “Shorter H8rs: ‘Fathers & sons can't love each other absent sex acts!’ ~ #PolymorphousPerversity #SSM”

Baldwin says his comments were prompted by a statement from Matt Blevin, who is mounting a primary challenge against Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Click "like" if you want to defend true marriage.

“If it’s all right to have same-sex marriages, why not define a marriage — because at the end of the day a lot of this ends up being taxes and who can visit who in the hospital and there’s other repressions and things that come with it — so a person may want to define themselves as being married to one of their children so that they can then in fact pass on certain things to that child financially and otherwise," Blevin told conservative radio host Janet Mefferd. “Where do you draw the line?”

Blevin and Baldwin are not the first to have asked the question. Last year, British actor Jeremy Irons drew fire for similar remarks about marriage redefinition and tax breaks, telling the Huffington Post, “Tax wise, it’s an interesting [question], because, you see, could a father not marry his son?”

When the interviewer accused Irons of comparing homosexuality with incest, Irons, like Baldwin, disagreed.

“It's not incest between men,” he said. “Incest is there to protect us from having inbreeding. But men don’t breed … so incest wouldn't cover that. But if that was so, if I wanted to pass on my estate without estate duties, I could marry my son and pass on my estate to him.”

After Irons’ comments were widely circulated online and mocked by liberal commentators, the actor posted an open letter on his official website addressing the interview. He denied criticism that he is “anti-gay,” saying instead he simply wanted to have an honest discussion about the potential unintended consequences of a redefinition of marriage.

“I was taking part in a short discussion around the practical meaning of Marriage, and how that institution might be altered by it becoming available to same-sex partners,” Irons wrote. “Perhaps rather too flippantly I flew the kite of an example of the legal quagmire that might occur if same sex marriage entered the statute books, by raising the possibility of future marriage between same sex family members for tax reasons, (incest being illegal primarily in order to prevent inbreeding, and therefore an irrelevance in non-reproductive relationships).”

He admitted his example was “mischievous,” but said it was “nonetheless valid.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adambaldwin; andersen; baldwin; culturewars; demagogicparty; homosexualagenda; incest; kirstenandersen; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; taxbreaks
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1 posted on 02/25/2014 7:44:38 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

I am sure it is on their list.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 7:45:13 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ReformationFan

No joke


3 posted on 02/25/2014 7:46:46 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ReformationFan

Lieberals are ‘smarter than God’ ay? What a Pandora’s Box of twisted perversions they will make of marriage.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 7:46:49 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: ReformationFan

5 posted on 02/25/2014 7:47:20 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: GeronL

Yep, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 7:47:38 PM PST by doc1019
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To: ReformationFan
Private Pyle!!!

Do you realize all HELL is about to break loose?

Have another doughnut and give me 50 pushups.

7 posted on 02/25/2014 7:48:22 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: ReformationFan

Oh!! ADAM Baldwin....for a minute, I thought Alec had come to his senses....


8 posted on 02/25/2014 7:49:06 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Thank God for the sickle cell


9 posted on 02/25/2014 7:49:19 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: ReformationFan

Solid logic.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 7:50:23 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: ReformationFan

Next will be legalizing having sex with children, that is next on the liberal list


11 posted on 02/25/2014 7:51:02 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ReformationFan

interesting premise....if we are being attacked as workers and savers and law biding citizens, why not use their stinking laws to save money?


12 posted on 02/25/2014 7:51:39 PM PST by cherry
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To: ReformationFan

Well,well....a couple of actors with Balls!
Jeremy Irons was gret in the movie Moonlighting,about Polish workers in London during the Solidarity period. See it!


13 posted on 02/25/2014 7:52:19 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: ReformationFan

I guess he figures his career is over already?


14 posted on 02/25/2014 7:52:43 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: eclecticEel

My thoughts exactly. Even though he is one of my favorite actors, methinks his career is over with this article.


15 posted on 02/25/2014 7:55:27 PM PST by doc1019
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To: ReformationFan

I love Ricky Linderman!!!!!!!!


16 posted on 02/25/2014 7:55:54 PM PST by Cindy of Nashville (What has the Democrat party become???)
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To: ReformationFan

He is really peed at lesbo Maddow now.

Go get her Alex!


17 posted on 02/25/2014 7:56:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor ')
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To: JoeDetweiler

Alec is waiting until he can marry himself. After all, no one else quite measures up.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 7:57:06 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Rome2000

Are you quitting on me? Well, are you?


19 posted on 02/25/2014 7:58:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: JoeDetweiler

I had a similar reaction myself.


20 posted on 02/25/2014 7:58:31 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Seriously, if you actually get a tax break, why wouldn’t two hetero buddies marry, then declare they’re straight and marrying to screw the system? When they find their female wives, divorce each other.

The Right should stop playing this Progressive game - Get governments out of Marriage and return it to churches only.


21 posted on 02/25/2014 7:59:35 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: eclecticEel

Either that or he’ll be audited.


22 posted on 02/25/2014 8:00:23 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: ReformationFan

Coolest thread of the day, RF.

I had no idea about that particular Baldwin. Jeremy Irons either. Neither one said anything hateful, just asked logical questions.

Freegards


23 posted on 02/25/2014 8:01:12 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ReformationFan

If 2 men get married they can not reproduce with each other.
If 2 women get married they can not reproduce with each other.
Both couples must involve a member of the opposite sex or they will have no children.

Also, there are a whole lot of sexless marriages and marriages of convenience between heterosexual couples.


24 posted on 02/25/2014 8:04:14 PM PST by servo1969
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To: ReformationFan

I’m surprised the Left still pretends to care about incest.


25 posted on 02/25/2014 8:04:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: ReformationFan

Nice move in political JuJutsu. Taking their strength and using it against them.

Aside from that, we should start asking the questions ... How do we know you’re Gay. Do you have to be Gay to marry the same sex? Do you have to have sex with them? So in the end this same sex marriage thing isn’t about gay. It’s about economic advantage and contributing to the destruction of the family.

More JuJutsu, Abortions for sex selection? Abortion for sexual preference selection? How about aborting babies that look like they’ll be sub performers according to their DNA?

Global warming? ... Lets go out to some 3rd world countries and commit genocide. The more people we kill the more is left for us and it will mitigate global warming.

Hey, instead of giving amnesty to millions of Mexican Illegal Aliens, lets just take the Baja peninsula from them and start another state for them there.


26 posted on 02/25/2014 8:05:14 PM PST by Usagi_yo (Standardization is an Evolutionary dead end.)
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To: Ransomed

No reltaion to the other Baldwins.

Adam was also in the X Files and Chuck.

“Shiny. Let’s be bad guys....”


27 posted on 02/25/2014 8:05:49 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Viennacon

In PC Logic, to oppose Adam Baldwin’s idea, would be a clear case of homophobia.


28 posted on 02/25/2014 8:06:07 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Thanks, I think I just assumed since there was so many there had to be one more.

Jane was the best part of Firefly, for me. Is he being castigated by the firefly fanatic crowd?

FReegards


29 posted on 02/25/2014 8:11:13 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ReformationFan

I’ve been asking that exact question for a while now, on this forum.


30 posted on 02/25/2014 8:12:05 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: ReformationFan

I’m confused

if we’re not allowed to detest homos for being homos... why is it ok to detest people that are into pedophilia and/or incest for marital purposes or seeking services at various businesses?


31 posted on 02/25/2014 8:12:38 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ReformationFan

I personally know him. I was a set manager on Chuck for a certain season and he would jack up Rush Limbaugh in his dressing van.


32 posted on 02/25/2014 8:18:18 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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Point flying over numerous heads...


33 posted on 02/25/2014 8:19:26 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ReformationFan

bookmark


34 posted on 02/25/2014 8:19:30 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: ReformationFan

“Marriage” has always been between man and woman.

What homosexuals want is to change the meaning of the word. They then claim that, under this modified meaning, they are being excluded.

If the meaning of words must be changed it is proof of a lie.

If the meaning of words can be altered then there are no limits. Why stop at “marriage”, why not include other words? They’re all up for grabs when words have no fixed meaning. If the meaning of words can be altered at will then there are no limits, lies become truth and truth becomes a lie.

Altering the meaning of words is how the left re-frames an issue to advance their agenda. Don’t let them get away with it.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 8:19:31 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: ReformationFan

Anyone who outrages the fag fascists are hero’s in my book. What we need are thousands of Phil Robertson’s standing up not just on this issue but against all the leftist hedonist drivel. Instead we are stuck with the submissive party. I’m nearly done with it. I want to know my money is going to push back hard against everything leftist progressive and deviant. Instead we get a legion of whimps ala John McCain and Mitt Ramsbottom Romney.


36 posted on 02/25/2014 8:20:18 PM PST by Maelstorm
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks ReformationFan. Hey, but don’t worry, elections don’t have consequences, so it’s okay to just stay home, don’t vote, and hold your breath until your state turns blue.


37 posted on 02/25/2014 8:20:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: JoeDetweiler

Same here!


38 posted on 02/25/2014 8:20:46 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: servo1969

“If 2 men get married they can not reproduce with each other.
If 2 women get married they can not reproduce with each other.”

Now, I’ve had close to fistfights with libs about this and they keep telling us it’s normal and natural” to be homosexual. Now all i ask them is “if it’s so normal, how come both of you cannot normally and naturally conceive a child?”

Then I add “you know, when I bang a chick, she’s gonna get pregnant, how about you?”


39 posted on 02/25/2014 8:21:21 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Hardastarboard

I see no reason why thoroughly heterosexual, single dudes shouldn’t exploit the benefits assigned to ‘married’ homosexuals.

Get the damn govt out of marriage.


40 posted on 02/25/2014 8:23:20 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: sten

His point has nothing to do with sex.


41 posted on 02/25/2014 8:25:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ReformationFan

“....he simply wanted to have an honest discussion about the potential unintended consequences of a redefinition of marriage.”

You simply CANNOT have an honest discussion about anything on the topic of homosexuality. You fall in line or you’re a ‘homophobe.’


42 posted on 02/25/2014 8:26:02 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Throw it back, they’re heterophobes.


43 posted on 02/25/2014 8:30:21 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: ReformationFan

Why not just give everyone a tax break and quit bastardizing marriage?


44 posted on 02/25/2014 8:32:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: ReformationFan

I’m sure that much of the push towards legal same-sex “marriage” is about the financial benefits.

None of the judges imposing this on the American people has yet explained how homosexual relationships are equivalent to the biologically driven pair bonding of heterosexual couples that is meant to produce children.


45 posted on 02/25/2014 8:34:55 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ReformationFan

Well I guess the fascists will make sure he never works again. They did that to James Woods.


46 posted on 02/25/2014 8:35:42 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Haven’t you heard? It’s only blacklisting when it happens to liberals. Conservatives have it comin’/sarc


47 posted on 02/25/2014 8:37:01 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Why the hell don’t we have a like button?

Awesome and co-opting for my own use....


48 posted on 02/25/2014 8:39:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Gene Eric

my point is.. those that object to his point are objecting due to pedophilia and incest being ‘detestable’

well... I find their behavior detestable.

what’s the difference?


49 posted on 02/25/2014 8:41:11 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: exDemMom

It is a LOT about the tax benefits. Too bad a conservative gay couple (I’m sure there are some out there) couldn’t come up with the idea that ALL people should get the marriage break. Of course then the courts would probably just rule in “fairness” to get rid of the tax break altogether.


50 posted on 02/25/2014 8:42:52 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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