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General Motors expands “igniton recall,” cites 13 deaths
fox ^ | updated on: 08:06pm, February 25, 2014

Posted on 02/25/2014 9:03:11 PM PST by BenLurkin

The recall now affects 1.37 million vehicles built between 2003 and 2007.

In addition to 778,000 Chevrolet Cobalts and Pontiac G5 cars recalled earlier this month, GM is also recalling Saturn Ions, Chevrolet HHRs, Pontiac Solstices and Saturn Sky models for the same issue.

GM says the ignition on the vehicles recalled can accidentally switch out of the “Run” position while the car is being driven. When that happens, the car’s engine shuts off, rendering power brakes, power steering and airbags not operational.

Originally, GM said there had been six fatalities among front-seat passengers as a result of this problem. There have been 31 frontal crashes involving vehicles with the problem.

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In the meantime, GM is advising owners to avoid having anything other than the car keys hanging on their key chain. The added weight of additional objects can make it more likely the key will turn accidentally.

(Excerpt) Read more at fox6now.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: gm; governmentmotors; recall

1 posted on 02/25/2014 9:03:11 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Wow! This one is serious.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 9:07:26 PM PST by boycott
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To: BenLurkin

Let me guess - they cut a nickel in cost for a part that will now cost them $100m in recall and litigation expenses, not to mention the badwill that comes from having this kind of scary defect associated with these car models.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 9:09:36 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: BenLurkin
Sounds like it should cause the steering wheel lock to engage, if I understand what's happening.
4 posted on 02/25/2014 9:14:48 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: BenLurkin

Great. I’m driving one of those Saturn Ions.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 9:17:59 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: BenLurkin

I suspect this problem may be at least partly caused by idiots who hang all kinds of junk on their keyrings. I have seen keys pulled out of ignitions just from the weight of the junk hanging from them.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 9:19:14 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: BenLurkin

I imagine some small group of people who the decision to cover up this problem made a nice bonus on the money saved at the time....

I would think that after 100 years basic things like this would be solved.

FTA: GM indicates that its engineers did not originally think the problem was safety related because steering and brakes, albeit without power assistance, would still work with the engine off. Also, the engine could be restarted after shifting the car to Neutral or Park.


7 posted on 02/25/2014 9:20:55 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

“Also, the engine could be restarted after shifting the car to Neutral or Park.”

Now that’s the ticket, try putting the mother into PARK while it’s moving. Not likely to be successful, but if by chance the parking pawl in the transmission does engage, welcome to rear wheel lockup ( at least until the transmission scatters due to the load), and with it, complete loss of control unless you are Mario Andretti.


8 posted on 02/25/2014 10:15:14 PM PST by vette6387
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To: ozzymandus

I could hang a 5 pound weight from the keychain of my Honda and this would not happen .


9 posted on 02/25/2014 10:25:48 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Yeah, but then you couldn’t drive up a gentle slope. ;>)


10 posted on 02/25/2014 10:38:28 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Read and weep ! http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/26/top-10-most-reliable-cars-2013-3899163/


11 posted on 02/26/2014 12:37:49 AM PST by sushiman
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To: ozzymandus

Oh , forgot the ;-)


12 posted on 02/26/2014 12:38:07 AM PST by sushiman
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To: minnesota_bound

That’s what I was wondering, why, after 100 years of cars starting (most of the time), are people employed designing newer, fancier ignition switches?

Can’t they find one of the hundreds that have already been built and are rock solid to do the job for them?


13 posted on 02/26/2014 12:42:20 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

The newest cars don’t have an ignition switch at all. Just a button to press to start or stop the engine. Entirely electronic paired with an electronic key. You never take the “key” out of your pocket to unlock or drive the car. You don’t even have to touch the key to do all of the above.


14 posted on 02/26/2014 1:06:15 AM PST by DB
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To: BenLurkin

Is Government Motors exempt from being sued?


15 posted on 02/26/2014 3:29:30 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Zhang Fei

Let me guess - they cut a nickel in cost for a part that will now cost them $100m in recall and litigation expenses, not to mention the badwill that comes from having this kind of scary defect associated with these car models.


Yes, but they cut nickles in 10,000 other areas, saving $500 on each car in ways that exceed the cost of the harm suffered here.

The people that bought these cars could afford to buy them over cars that cost $500 less, and which would have been even less safe.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 4:06:18 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: BenLurkin

obamamotors design!


17 posted on 02/26/2014 4:31:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: BenLurkin
When that happens, the car’s engine shuts off, rendering power brakes, power steering and airbags not operational.

Great. The car turns into an unguided bomb... with passengers.

18 posted on 02/26/2014 4:49:55 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: sushiman
"I could hang a 5 pound weight from the keychain of my Honda and this would not happen."

Actually, it did happen to my nephew in his Honda. He was on his way to his first job, 2500 miles from home. His Honda stopped along side the highway. It cost him $1000 (which he had to borrow) to repair it so he could get to his job. He had just the normal things a college kid has on his key ring.

19 posted on 02/26/2014 6:24:00 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: minnesota_bound
It was also not immediately clear why the airbags did not deploy in many crashes, according to the document.

No Big Deal

20 posted on 02/26/2014 6:52:29 AM PST by TYVets
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To: BenLurkin

The delay in these recalls could get very expensive for government motors and I’m not speaking of the replacement switches.


21 posted on 02/26/2014 8:44:29 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: sushiman

Funny, I was just reading a list on MSN of “15 Used Cars To Avoid”. They included both the Honda Accord,and the Chevy 1500 pickup, which I drive. ;>) To each his own.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 11:54:07 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article.aspx?cp-documentid=435706

??????

Best of the Best :
Honda Accord
Honda Civic
Honda Civic Hybrid
Honda CR-V
Honda Element
Honda Odyssey
Honda Pilot
Honda S2000


23 posted on 02/26/2014 1:57:57 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Hey, good for you.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 2:58:50 PM PST by ozzymandus
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