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On Gay Issue Arizona May Heed National Outcy
LATimes ^ | February 25, 2014 | Cindy Carcamo

Posted on 02/25/2014 9:44:23 PM PST by lbryce

Arizona has resisted national pressure before to its controversial laws. But this time leaders are urging Gov. Jan Brewer to veto a bill that would allow businesses to refuse service to gay patrons.

TUCSON — When Arizona took controversial stands in the past — refusing to create a Martin Luther King Jr. holiday and enacting a tough anti-illegal immigration law — state leaders shrugged off the criticism from out of state as the meddling of outsiders. But now, after the Legislature passed a measure to bolster the rights of business owners to refuse service to gays and others on the basis of religion, Arizona leaders seem to be listening to a national outcry and are urging the governor to veto the bill. So what's different this time? Political insiders and observers say the change can be attributed to a number of forces at work: A growing acceptance of gay rights sweeping the nation, the power of social media and an economic backlash unleashed by the passage of the anti-illegal immigration law that is still fresh in the minds of those in the business community.

Republican Gov. Jan Brewer has said she has not made a decision on the bill, SB 1062, which the GOP-dominated Legislature approved last week. But some of her longtime advisors have said they believe she will veto the measure because of the negative reaction to the bill inside and outside the state.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gayrights; romney; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; romneymustdecide
Arizona has indeed resisted national pressure before to its controversial laws BUT in the end has mostly capitulated not for lack of principle but for the huge financial penalties suffered as a result economic boycotts that that were threatened against Arizona. eventually took its toll.

I remember how Arizona stood proudly alone nationwide against the celebration of Martin Luther King Day as a paid holiday when first enacted in 1986 signed into law by Ronald Reagan.

Arizona fought tooth and nail against the holiday.

Years of political fighting over the holiday had created an image of Arizona nationally as a state locked in a racial battle. Several big-name musicians and national conventions had canceled their Arizona events.

But the cancellation that really panicked Phoenix-area business interests came from the National Football League.

The NFL had already cautioned that if a holiday was not approved, it would consider relocating the 1993 Super Bowl planned for Sun Devil Stadium. The league wanted to avoid the racial controversy. After the ballot measures failed, the league followed through, moving the game to Pasadena, Calif.

Arizona voters approved a state King holiday in November 1992, making Arizona the only state that put it to a vote of the people and saw it pass.

1 posted on 02/25/2014 9:44:23 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

We need an exemplary divorce lawyer to aid us through this split. Who gets what? Will some states join Canada or Mexico? Where will the borders be? How do we split the military & nuclear weapons?


2 posted on 02/25/2014 9:47:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: lbryce

Boy, did Jesus know what he was talking about when he said we would either worship him or money.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 9:48:37 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: bramps

Boy, did he get that right, among many other things.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 9:53:38 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

And I think that AZ is slated to host the next Super Bowl in 2015, or maybe 2016.

Recently the NFL has positioned itself as a politically correct organization, eager to embrace all things ‘progressive’ so I would expect the pressure to be on this time as well.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 9:56:25 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: lbryce

There’s no way she signs this bill.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 9:58:35 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Veggie Todd
There’s no way she signs this bill.

There are things she stands tall on, and things she goes weak in the knees on. I see the knees folding on this one.

7 posted on 02/25/2014 10:10:14 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: lbryce

Don’t trample on my religious rights-this is a warning Left Wing!

(Not aimed at you), but a STRONG Warning to them...


8 posted on 02/25/2014 10:16:21 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: lbryce

No, it may heed the pressure of big sports and the thugs at Apple. Pathetic governor, pathetic members of the legislature. These commies passed this bill for her to veto in order to close down the legitimate effort in other states. It’s a shameful spectacle where a red state is actually undermining the other red states.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 10:28:14 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: lbryce; All
The photo of Gov. Brewer in the article is a bit demonizing imo.

And what exactly is this "national outcry" mentioned in the article? Is the media possibly trying to give the impression that gay supporters are a larger group of people than they may actually be?

Note that the states have never amended the Constitution to protected so-called gay rights. So the states are free to make laws which discriminate against such "rights," as long as such laws don't also unreasonably discriminate against constitutionally enumerated protections.

Also, speaking of discrimination against gays, I found it interesting the the US Mail Service used to refuse to handle homosexual-related material.

Comstock laws

10 posted on 02/25/2014 10:29:30 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: lbryce

This one article proves that the threats by the NFL to move the Super Bowl and the threats Apple to cancel a plant in Arizona are more important than the voters.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 10:41:47 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: lbryce

Divorce attorneys have stopped salivating over this and are now power-drooling.

Such an enormous increase in potential profit for the legal sector might seem to indicate that there may be some sort of gigantic lobbying campaign going on.

Thanks goodness state, local and national politicians aren’t predominantly lawyers!

Oh ... Wait.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 11:06:47 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: bramps; All

Apparently even some Republicans who voted for it are now against it seeing how upset some major businesses are.


13 posted on 02/25/2014 11:09:35 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: lbryce

It is a “national outcry” only in that LGBT and its leftist politicians are spread around the country. It is surely not an “outcry” by any substantial number of real people. It is actually an MSM/LGBT outcry, but I guess these are the official Elite of the country.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 11:18:27 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: lbryce

Principles or money? Such a choice! I think I read something about this in the Bible.../sarc


15 posted on 02/25/2014 11:21:45 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: lbryce

I suspect a gross misrepresentation of the bill, though I don’t know what it’s supposed to say. Probably a defense of non-collaboration with a known sin situation, and it’s being read as ah, now “Christians may refuse service to ‘gays’” which wouldn’t be applicable in the vast majority of cases.


16 posted on 02/25/2014 11:27:01 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: lbryce
The NFL had already cautioned that if a holiday was not approved, it would consider relocating the 1993 Super Bowl planned for Sun Devil Stadium.

I am not a lawyer, but that seem like extortion to influence legislation, maybe Joe should make some arrests.

17 posted on 02/25/2014 11:29:08 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant)
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To: Eagles6

What would Phil of Duck Dynasty do? He didn’t fold A&E did.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 11:29:08 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: itsahoot

“I am not a lawyer, but that seem like extortion to influence legislation, maybe Joe should make some arrests.”

Not only extortion, but a manipulation of a democratic process thus giving the NFL control of the state’s legislative power.

But, I do not think arrests of NFL officials would be possible, but a lawsuit against the NFL and other corporations that threaten to deny Arizona business would seemingly be possible.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 11:36:48 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Zenjitsuman

Srpaio its about time to spring that surprise that’s supposed to reveal Obama as the Anti-Christ.../s


20 posted on 02/25/2014 11:46:29 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: lbryce

If Brewer doesn’t sign Im sure gay activists will target Christian owned businesses for legal action.

Those businesses who get targeted won’t have any support from gay loving wealthy Republicans.


21 posted on 02/26/2014 12:25:02 AM PST by RginTN
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To: lbryce

What would happen if a large contingent of Christ followers went into a homosexual watering hole, ordered 30 diet cokes, and began a discussion regarding the Bible’s view regarding marriage?

I’d be party to that.

Let’s make tolerance a two way street.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 1:25:15 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: lbryce

By the way, I disagree that homosexuality is a “civil right”. So do many black citizens.


23 posted on 02/26/2014 1:26:49 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: lbryce

Sodom and Gomorrah “heeded the cry” too, and history records what happened to them in consequence.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 1:32:21 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: lbryce

IIRC, Bruce Babbitt used an Executive Order which Ev Mecham rescinded (abuse of power using EO). The State voted for it. Since it was the only State that voted for it, the libs need to shut up.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 2:44:25 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Oliviaforever

I wonder how much it would cost the NFL and Apple for the loss of contracts to Ariz companies and cities?


26 posted on 02/26/2014 2:46:10 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’d order the drinks before they realized I wasn’t gay. Just a thought about some “activist” putting extra protein in the drinks.


27 posted on 02/26/2014 2:49:03 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: SoFloFreeper
That is common sense.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

28 posted on 02/26/2014 3:16:14 AM PST by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia")
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To: lbryce
There should be no need for the law...period.

I believe anyone of us has the right to deny service to some fags playing these games.

29 posted on 02/26/2014 3:46:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bramps

seems the children of darkness are being smarter than the children of light.When the “already captured liberal establishment and the Press are pressing surrender eleven law professors have already sent Jan Brewer a letter confiming what I Knew to be True— SB1062 in Arizona has been “egregiously misrepresented by its’ critics” —See Breitbart.
The guys getting coverage are those spewing gloom and doom if this is signed into law. The Colorado Boycott promised the same —but in the end I don’t recall much economic impact. Maybe someone else can fact check for me. But the Boycott seemed a bust—more flame and fame than FACT. The real problem is the enemy seized control of our General Assembly and the Governors seat—and turned Colorado into a captive of the Queer Nation.


30 posted on 02/26/2014 5:07:10 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Oliviaforever
Not only extortion, but a manipulation of a democratic process thus giving the NFL control of the state’s legislative power.

But it is for the right reason. </sarcasm>

Apple is involved too in the threats as well.

31 posted on 02/26/2014 12:03:15 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant)
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