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Nugent: Obama ‘Really Wants to Destroy America’
Tea Party ^ | Feb. 25, 2014 | Politico

Posted on 02/25/2014 11:26:57 PM PST by progunner

After last week apologizing for comments calling the president a “subhuman mongrel,” Ted Nugent on Monday attacked the administration for what he called similarities to Nazi Germany.

The rocker and gun rights activist defended some of his past remarks on Monday on Dennis Miller’s radio show, days after apologizing for using the term “mongrel” to refer to President Barack Obama, which caused a storm of controversy when he hit the campaign trail for Texas Republican governor hopeful Greg Abbott.Miller pressed Nugent on using the term “jackbooted thug.”

“The guy, he’s just a horribly inept civil servant,” Miller said, according to audio posted by left-leaning watchdog Media Matters. “He’s just the guy in the toll booth who keeps giving back too much change to people and I’ll be glad when he’s out of there, but he’s not a Nazi.”

“Well I don’t think he’s Adolf Hitler,” Nugent said, but he told Miller he disagreed that the “jackbooted thug” comment was inappropriate.

“There was an incrementalism to what happened in Germany and other places historically, where they came in slowly,” Nugent said. “And I think that’s what Obamacare is, that’s what I think most of what he represents. The IRS — I really believe that what we see with the IRS can be compared accurately and historically to the early maneuvers of people like jackbooted thugs, like the Brownshirts [Nazi Storm Troopers]. I really believe that and I think that you are being too soft on them.”

Miller again told Nugent he disagreed with the comparison, but Nugent pressed that the President Barack Obama wants to “destroy” the country.

“I think he really wants to destroy America. I think he wants to follow the Saul Alinsky ‘Rules for Radicals’ book, destroy our economy, have a … war between the haves and the have-nots.”

In his apology on Friday, Nugent said he was trying to learn from “better men” with whom he had appeared on the campaign trail and said he would try to use “more understandable language” rather than “street-fighter” terms in the future.


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Hey Ted,,,, DO NOT apologize to anyone,,,, you said what you did. Obama's head belongs between the 8 speaker cabs you used back in mid 1971 in Miami and let that Gibson very loose.
1 posted on 02/25/2014 11:26:57 PM PST by progunner
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To: progunner

A mongrel that acts subhuman, I could buy.

But Ted went a smidgen too far.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 11:31:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Did he REALLY???? How do you describe Obama,,,, super human????,,,, No offense but I think many freepers will disagree with you.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 11:35:34 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: progunner
The elephant in the room here is that the outcry against what Nugent said wasn't as loud as it would have been 4 years ago. THAT in and of itself is the news story here. Conclusion? After 5 years of Barry, his formerly hardcore supporters now agree with Nugent (secretly of course).
4 posted on 02/25/2014 11:38:42 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: progunner

Human. If failing God’s vision for being human made one subhuman... then Nugent and everyone else on this mortal coil would be subhuman in that sense, making the term superfluous.

That said, it was clearly figurative, and mongrel seems to have been meant in the sense of dog, not the sense of mixed race. A clarification could have been in order.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 11:39:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
I certainly agree bro,,,, but I think many are going to forsake their secrecy in the very near future

IN LIBERTY

6 posted on 02/25/2014 11:41:28 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: progunner

7 posted on 02/25/2014 11:43:25 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

How do you clarify the truth my friend? by “turning your cheek and let whomever slap you in the face again????


8 posted on 02/25/2014 11:44:03 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: progunner

You use a sloppy expression, you own up to its implications. Ted needed to man up to that.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 11:45:05 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: progunner

If Miller agrees that obama is really trying to destroy America O’Reilly won’t let him be on his show. I’m sure he gets paid well for each appearance.

Personally, I’m back to the anti-christ thing. I was thinking that someone was pulling his strings. Now I’m thinking he really is controlling a lot of people and lots of people are truly afraid of him. He’s doing anything he wants and all congress does is file a lawsuit. What will they do when the court, who fears him, rules against congress? Once he wins that battle, he’s never leaving. It has to be fear. Otherwise, congress could shut him down by closing the check book.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 11:52:21 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Sloppy???? What was sloppy about what I said???? Do I need to reiterate???? If you choose to be soft on Obama you choose to do so,,,, he is however not being soft on our “Constitution” nor us Americans. He’s a tyrant that needs to be tried and sent to prison.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 11:54:14 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Your absolutely correct bro....


12 posted on 02/25/2014 11:56:37 PM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: progunner

Never apologize when it comes to politics. It only gives critics power.

I heard a weekend talkshow host going on and on about what Nugent said as if he was an elected politician who lied about Obamacare and Benghazi...it is ridiculous that our side insists civility on our activists while the other side doesn’t.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 12:02:57 AM PST by RginTN
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agree, as I posted elsewhere on FR, i.e. that Nugent used the wrong terms to describe Obama. “Mongrel” is a term used to describe a mixed breed dog, so let’s keep it at the animal level.

“Subhuman” was a term Hitler and the Nazis and the Japanese used to describe Jews, Russians, Poles and the Chinese. Many of these groups were subjected to Dr. Mengele and Japanese Unit 731 inhuman medical experiments because they were viewed as either “subhumans” or “non-humans”.

However, I feel that nothing is wrong in accurately describing Obama as a damned Communist traitor, narcisstic ego maniac, pathological liar, legend in his own mind, Alinsky toadie and America/England hater par excellance.

When referring to dogs and Obama, just mention that he ate them. That should get PETA on his ass.

As I mentioned elsewhere, when Obama goes to Asia, all the dogs are nervous, very nervous.

Meanwhile, I wonder how Mrs. Sasquatch is doing?


14 posted on 02/26/2014 12:31:16 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: HiTech RedNeck

aka Obama is a mongrel. Best case is he’s half American.


15 posted on 02/26/2014 12:43:29 AM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: progunner

Can’t quite comprehend why he apologized - everything he said was spot on.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 1:27:29 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: HiTech RedNeck

lol!


17 posted on 02/26/2014 1:32:15 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Nice pic.

I know Bill O likes to read FR so I often add this to discussions relating to him.

Bill O'Reilly

18 posted on 02/26/2014 1:35:29 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: progunner

Uncle Ted knows the Alinsky play book and he pushed their button to see how the Left works the play book:

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

The way you fight the Left is you turn their Alinsky play book against them. They are the racists. They are the destroyers of America. Zer0 is the nit wit who is frozen like a deer in the headlights—something Uncle Ted knows well as a hunter.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 1:46:39 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Obama called black people mongrels himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerO4KZDlBY


20 posted on 02/26/2014 2:00:34 AM PST by BushCountry (If you're wondering, "I got my screenname before GW was elected the first time.")
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To: progunner

These words, “Really wants to destroy America”, were pretty much repeated by John Bolton last night. When you want to “fundamentally change” a country, doesn’t that mean you want to bring down, or destroy, what exists and make it something else? Of course it does. Obama wants to “fundamentally change”, or destroy America as it was founded. His own words.

Ted should have apologized for the subhuman remark. Obama is human. Evil, but human. Mongrel? Well, rather insulting, but if he’s not pure white or pure black, I guess you could class him as that. It’s just completely not necessary and detracts from the real poison. His skin colour is irrelevant, it’s his intentions for the country that are diabolical.


21 posted on 02/26/2014 2:00:58 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

His skin color is very relevant.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 2:08:26 AM PST by Post5203 (For the first time in my life, I despise this country.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Devout Radical Marxist would work. Obama is a product of the education system that was responsible for welcoming Marxism into the United States in the 1930’s. He is the finsihed polished product of this. Read “The Origins of Political Correctness” by Bill Lind. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031059/posts


23 posted on 02/26/2014 2:17:58 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: progunner

“Subhuman Mongrel” is an under statement and he should NEVER have apologized. Once you apologize because other folks harass you into it you weaken anything else you say.

Obama is a narcissistic POS, a pathological liar, Marxist and Misanthrope.

Telling it like it is should be EVERYONE’s responsibility and screw PC at every level.


24 posted on 02/26/2014 2:23:20 AM PST by maddog55
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To: JudyinCanada

My dearest Judy,,,, WE have to live in AMERICA,,,, YOU DON’T,,,, If you wish to defend that commie go right ahead,,,, we DO NOT NEED YOU here in AMERICA,,,, this IS the land of the free and the home of the brave.... You are NOT subject to tyranny,,,, WE ARE,,,,NOT YOU,,,,.... We can take care of ourselves thank you.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 2:24:47 AM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: progunner; JudyinCanada

Trouble is, when a red-bait term like that is used by a conservative, the bleeding-heart Media will latch onto that, and only that.

So Ted comes off looking out of control, and his legitimate criticisms are ignored. Check, check.

Don’t give the Big Media a diversion - anything! Force them to finally put the spotlight on Obama’s failure!


26 posted on 02/26/2014 2:40:52 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: shibumi

Ladies, fish and gentlemen ping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXCr3S4zrgQ


27 posted on 02/26/2014 2:41:01 AM PST by Salamander (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

To make that photo shop perfect, take out the teeth and add Biden’s absurd veneers.


28 posted on 02/26/2014 2:49:11 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: canuck_conservative

At the cost of reiteration,,,, we Americans have to take care of business,,,, NOT YOU.... Put your damn selves in our shoes and try to teach us where we have to NOT TELL THE TRUTH. Time to call “ a spade a spade”,,,, dig????


29 posted on 02/26/2014 2:49:18 AM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: JudyinCanada

I’m always drawn to obama’s “rebuild America on a new foundation”.

Pretty obvious that if you are going to put in an entire new foundation, you have to tear down the entire existing structure first. Obama started with the chimney, then the second floor, and is now working on the first.


30 posted on 02/26/2014 2:58:21 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: progunner

If the problem is as bad as you say, you’ll need to win over people .... and trying to do that, it does matter whether you deliver your message politely or with a fist in the face .... your choice


31 posted on 02/26/2014 3:01:43 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: progunner
What is apology for?

we are at war in case you forgot

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

32 posted on 02/26/2014 3:19:17 AM PST by expatguy (Donate to "An American Expat in SE Asia")
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To: JudyinCanada

David Limbaugh published a book in 2012 about Obummer called “The Great Destroyer”


33 posted on 02/26/2014 3:21:12 AM PST by Renegade
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To: canuck_conservative

You’ve got to be kidding me. A fist to the face???? That only works in a school yard. Get real. REALLY REAL.... If you think that a “punch in the face” is going to take care of our problems than you are truly ignorant. Take care of Canada,,, not the USA.


34 posted on 02/26/2014 3:35:07 AM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: VerySadAmerican
“Personally, I’m back to the anti-christ thing.”

The problem is that history is replete with those who have done similar things, or worse (Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. etc.), and their movements were all marked by progressive fear of retribution etc. I guess you could argue that they are all 'anti-Christs', but my personal belief is that the world is just filled with flawed human beings (self-included), and some wind up in positions from which they can hurt a lot of people. Obama is just another Marxist.

I believe that to diminish Obama’s influence one must expose his ideology and deny him the ability to 'sound reasonable' - as he is not. Instead of complaining about how much is too much to pay for Obamacare, or that the website isn't working right, there are other much more basic questions that should be debated.

Is ‘health care’ really a right? If so, what does that mean? Does it mean that if everyone can't have an expensive new treatment, that no one should? Does it mean that the salaries and profits of all who are involved in delivering health care should be controlled by the government? If so, what other ‘rights’ do we have, and shouldn't those involved in those rights have their salaries and profits controlled by the government too? We have a right to eat, right? Shouldn't grocery stores/supermarkets, farmers, restaurants, and anyone who has anything to do with delivering food to the masses have their profits and salaries controlled by the government?

It's a very slippery slope, but the point is that at the base of all of Obama’s beliefs and arguments is a belief that government has the right to take away your freedoms and limit your self-determinism in the name of doing what it thinks is fair. His beliefs are truly radical, and he should be made to defend them - thus exposing what he truly believes, at every opportunity. This can be done, without the MSM’s help, if the opposition does its job.

35 posted on 02/26/2014 3:44:11 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He went too far and he needs to go away. People really do not need to be associated with him. He acts like an overgrown adolescent drelict


36 posted on 02/26/2014 3:47:19 AM PST by stanne
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To: progunner

Sorry you thought I was defending “that commie”. I sure as heck am not. I can’t stand the guy - I think he is in place to subvert your country. I can’t stand seeing him or listening to him.

Having said that, I don’t think putting language like “subhuman mongrel” is helpful to the cause of your country. His skin colour is relevant only because that’s what has shaped his politics and feelings toward America...and toss in there his muslim roots and upbringing.

There’s plenty to go after this guy on without calling him derogatory names. The media will grab onto that and class all of the right as hateful nuts (even more than they already do).

So, dearest progunner, I’m on your side. I live in Canada - far closer to tyranny than you. I hate seeing what is happening to your country. I long for the days of Reagan - I still remember the day he fired all of those air traffic controllers lol.


37 posted on 02/26/2014 3:49:44 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: progunner

He is a mongrel without a doubt... not a racist term but a mangy animal term.


38 posted on 02/26/2014 3:59:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: JudyinCanada

Thank you for your kind words. But,,,, my fine lady friend,,,, we are so fed up (meaning us pro AMs) that ANY outside opinion is now meaningless. It is now time for American patriots to make our point clear,,,, and it’s got to be without foreign help. Stay well my friend.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 4:15:41 AM PST by progunner (no compromise)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is no problem with calling names. We are allowed to use the language as we see fit. It is the control of the language, the political correctness that has put us in the leftist shackles.

When he correctly described the President as mongrel and then added the multiplier subhuman, he omitted flop eared.


40 posted on 02/26/2014 4:20:55 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: progunner

Obama intends on reducing our military so that it is weak compared to the new army consisting of the DEA, Homeland Security, the Postal Service, the FBI, the IRS and a host of other militarized agencies that are being designed to enslave the free people of America while the military is outnumbered and outgunned and becomes helpless to do anything about it.

In my opinion, he has already formed his “civilian army” that he spoke about before his first election.


41 posted on 02/26/2014 4:27:50 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: progunner

Hey, Brother Ted!!! Don’t! Back! Down!


42 posted on 02/26/2014 4:29:15 AM PST by trillabodilla (For I am the LORD, I change not; Malachi 3:6a)
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To: progunner

Obama intends on reducing our military so that it is weak compared to the new army consisting of the DEA, Homeland Security, the Postal Service, the FBI, the IRS and a host of other militarized agencies that are being designed to enslave the free people of America while the military is outnumbered and outgunned and becomes helpless to do anything about it.

In my opinion, he has already formed his “civilian army” that he spoke about before his first election.


43 posted on 02/26/2014 4:29:36 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: progunner

God bless America - I will continue to pray for your great nation.


44 posted on 02/26/2014 4:43:48 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: progunner

Obama is a pretty damned strong imitation of the anti-christ. He’s what Nugent said he is and more. He is a scum bag, low life Marxist bastard. And he a bastard in the truest sense of the word.


45 posted on 02/26/2014 4:46:50 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deeper in trouble.)
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To: progunner

I accept Mr. Nugent’s apology. Comparing obama to a mongrel is an insult to all mongrels everywhere.


46 posted on 02/26/2014 5:07:16 AM PST by DE50AE
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To: progunner

You would be reiterating folly, but go right ahead.


47 posted on 02/26/2014 6:15:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: stanne

That’s your opinion....most people on FR...not so much!!!


48 posted on 02/26/2014 6:19:25 AM PST by ontap
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To: bert

Hyperbole which isn’t quite hyperbole, which treads in the paths of actual infamy (as was pointed out, “subhuman” was a Nazi term and we know how wonderful that turned out) becomes a problem. Calling him a clueless flop eared monster rabbit would be hyperbole. Calling him subhuman drags Nazi spirits out of their grave.

With freedom of speech comes NOT an excuse-all card (this is NOT a blind right wing answer to the race card) but responsibility. If you use it to channel historical ugliness, you have no basis to whine when others use their freedom of speech to highlight that fact. That said, most people think Obama is abominable, and don’t need Ted Nugent in order to get them to think that, but can’t imagine how America could get anything better. There is a way to get something better and it’s called gospel. Can Ted dare to echo heaven rather than hell for a change?


49 posted on 02/26/2014 6:22:38 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ontap

And “most people on FR” is not the moral compass that is owed allegiance. “My gang is bigger than your gang” fails when the second gang has God in it.

Ted has some talents. He could use them more wisely. Nobody says we need to suck up to Obama. He does wonderful when he highlights God, guts, and country. The things that are pluses on the American scene. I would add to that, rednecks.


50 posted on 02/26/2014 6:27:17 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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