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US planning full Afghan pullout, Obama tells Karzai
BBC.com ^ | February 25, 2014 | BBC

Posted on 02/26/2014 2:06:43 AM PST by Timber Rattler

President Barack Obama has warned his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai that the US may pull all of its troops out of his country by the year's end.

Mr Obama conveyed the message in a phone call to Mr Karzai, who has refused to sign a security agreement.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; karzai; troops
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About time.
1 posted on 02/26/2014 2:06:43 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

I’m tired of our tax dollars going to Muslim countries with nothing to show for it but more Muslims. STOP.


2 posted on 02/26/2014 2:23:29 AM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Timber Rattler

bring our troops home,
all of them.
from germany,england, south korea, japan and the whole mid east.
bring em home and to hell with the world.


3 posted on 02/26/2014 2:46:58 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Timber Rattler

Personally, I question this move by this particular President. While I fully agree and feel relieved to get out from another of the world’s hellholes, leaving there with our tail tucked isn’t exactly what I would have in mind.

It is a shame the entire effort was squandered by the President and the leftist agenda on the ROE.

We’ll be back in less than a decade from now, hopefully with a much better defined objective. As the middle east continues to escalate in hostilities with the world, this is very far from the end of the war.


4 posted on 02/26/2014 3:13:25 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Well, just exactly what else are we supposed to do? Stay in ‘stan forever? We would be making this move under any POTUS IMO.

When we went in 13 years ago I think we knew it wasn’t going to be a nation building exercise really and that we’d be checking out as soon as possible. Iraq’s the same way. We shouldn’t and can’t make them colonies. We can’t stay there indefinitely.


5 posted on 02/26/2014 3:33:43 AM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

Yep, we shouldn’t stick around there unless the area gets depopulated like we did to the indians. Unfortunately, that strategy doesn’t play well in the modern world.


6 posted on 02/26/2014 4:14:55 AM PST by glorgau
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To: FAA

At the very least, we need to bring back the Draft, or better yet, Israeli style compulsory service. It’s just too easy to send somebody else’s kids to War.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 4:15:00 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: EBH

We’ll be back in less than a decade from now, hopefully with a much better defined objective.


It will still be wrong.

These wars are not about our freedom or our safety. They are about corporatism.


8 posted on 02/26/2014 4:31:49 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: EBH
He has no choice in the matter. This is exactly what happened in Iraq.

Without a bilateral security agreement (BSA) in place, the legal status of U.S. troops in Afghanistan is up in the air and they could potentially be subject to criminal prosecution. One key purpose of the BSA is to formally document the legal status of U.S. military personnel and certify that they are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Conduct under U.S. law rather than the laws of Afghanistan.

Now I would assume that most Pentagon brass today and the entire administration doesn't give a rat's @ss about the troops on the ground, but it gets a bit dicey if the government of Afghanistan issues an arrest warrant sometime down the road against senior U.S. military (or civilian) officials for alleged crimes, atrocities, etc. by the U.S. military. That's the sort of thing that would have enough credibility to keep these people from traveling to third-party countries where the police might actually act on the warrant.

9 posted on 02/26/2014 4:33:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Wolfie
Actually, the way to deal with the problem is to have intelligent, self-respecting Americans stay out of the U.S. military in the first place. The Constitution makes it pretty clear that this country was never designed to have a large standing army in place, and that its military forces would be drawn from state militias in a time of need.

The U.S. military that you see today is the product of a post-1900 globalist empire that has no basis in Constitutional law.

10 posted on 02/26/2014 4:36:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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“We’ll be back in less than a decade from now”
After there’s another smoking crater in a blue city.


11 posted on 02/26/2014 4:43:04 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Even simpler...yank 10, hell make it 5, random students from each of the Ivy League colleges and send them to combat units every time they are deployed. The elite won’t get us into these messes anymore.


12 posted on 02/26/2014 4:45:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Alberta's Child
The Constitution makes it pretty clear that this country was never designed to have a large standing army in place...

Does the Constitution also make it clear that this country is not supposed to have worldwide interests -- both national security interests and commercial interests?

13 posted on 02/26/2014 4:46:38 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Timber Rattler

And Omar that bassturd remains free

eff that plan


14 posted on 02/26/2014 4:53:40 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Timber Rattler

“It’s a bluff by Obama.” - KT McFarland, WMAL/ABCNews 8am interview on the Morning Show.


15 posted on 02/26/2014 5:07:52 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Bring all the troops home, post them on our Mexican border, setup long thin military and training bases along the entire border. Erect the fence and have the men patrol the fence as part of weekly duties.

Let European countries defend their own borders, bring those troops home too!


16 posted on 02/26/2014 5:12:45 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: Timber Rattler

A year from now, Karzai will be living in a mansion in Switzerland,

or his head will be on a pike in Kabul.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 5:28:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bigtoona

Not just the southern border,
Lot of undesirables slip in from Canada also,


18 posted on 02/26/2014 5:36:32 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Joe Boucher

You are correct. How many lives and how much treasure are we willing to pour into these shitholes for no discernible purpose? Obama should have brought them all home the day after his inauguration.

A boy from Kentucky was killed a couple of weeks ago. And it was not for our freedom as so many like to say.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 5:41:45 AM PST by Valentine Michael Smith (You won't find justice in a Courtroom)
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To: Valentine Michael Smith

My nephew was killed in Fallujah.
You know, the place we spent so many lives only to give it back to the Taliban.
And for what reason?
Natural resources.
Afganistan is rich in uranium and other precious natural materials.
Iraq, oil.
For what, so some American bid ness men can make bundles of money at the expense of our boys?


20 posted on 02/26/2014 6:55:42 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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