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On the Maidan, the birth of a real Ukrainian civil society
The Globe and Mail ^ | Published Friday, Feb. 21 2014, 12:55 PM EST | Daniel Bilak

Posted on 02/26/2014 10:23:48 AM PST by FBD

Snip: ... "Unlike those on the Maidan, no one is prepared to die for the regime of Viktor Yanukovych regime. There will not be a civil war; claims to the contrary are attempts by eastern and Crimean political and economic elites to manipulate the situation to preserve their wealth and local feudal power. Most Ukrainians see this as a war between a dictatorial president and his people... (snip)

....The Maidan, therefore, has not spawned a civil war, but the birth of an authentic Ukrainian civil society. It is the culmination of an agonizing 20-year process of de-Sovietization of Ukrainian society, a process that has progressed faster in some regions than in others. The Maidan is a watershed moment, when the nation shed the mental chains of Soviet paternalism. One opposition leader described the statues of Lenin being spontaneously hauled down around the country as Ukraine’s psychological Berlin Wall. It is characterized by a shift in mentality – a distrust of all of the country’s institutions, including political parties, governing or opposition.

(Excerpt) Read more at theglobeandmail.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kiev; putin; ukraine
About the author:

Daniel Bilak is a Canadian international lawyer based in Kiev and a former UNDP senior governance advisor to the Government of Ukraine.

1 posted on 02/26/2014 10:23:48 AM PST by FBD
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To: boxlunch; Dead Corpse; Jeff Head; Jim Robinson

Ping to a positive outlook on Ukraine’s future.


2 posted on 02/26/2014 10:26:40 AM PST by FBD
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To: Paleo Conservative

Would appreciate your comments and perspective on this article by a Canadian lawyer who resides in Ukraine, since you’ve been there too!


3 posted on 02/26/2014 10:33:56 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

Fantasy.


4 posted on 02/26/2014 10:34:04 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Fantastically fantastical.
Better that, then a cynical view such as yours. :-)

“A cynic is a person who looks around for a coffin, when he smells flowers.”

-I wonder if you were around during the American Revolution, if you would have given those rebels even a farts chance in a hurricane? What's wrong with a little positive outlook for the Ukrainian people? They toppled a bunch of Lenin statues, that's worth something. Lighten up and try not to be so cynical.

http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/52a4b7dcecad04706219d04c-523-509/screen%20shot%202013-12-08%20at%201.16.56%20pm.png

5 posted on 02/26/2014 10:46:53 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

love that pic

I will have to use it for something


6 posted on 02/26/2014 10:50:53 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: FBD

I hope he’s right.

Prayers up...


7 posted on 02/26/2014 11:01:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: GeronL

Reminds me of this poem:
Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear —
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.’
-Percy Bysshe Shelley


8 posted on 02/26/2014 11:01:30 AM PST by FBD
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To: Dead Corpse
He makes a great point here:

“Fear of losing jobs and pensions makes these people easy to manipulate at election-time, something the ruling clan has used to great effect.In this context, state, oligarch-owned and Russian television has effectively demonized the Maidan as a U.S.-EU-sponsored plot supported by western Ukraine to destabilize the peace and harmony of the country.

Because they were paid to stand at demonstrations in favour of the regime, easterners were quite cynical regarding arguments that no one was paying the protesters. That changed when people on the Maidan started dying in mass numbers this week.” ----------------------------------------

He's right. Those protesters weren't dying for the European Union

9 posted on 02/26/2014 11:09:28 AM PST by FBD
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To: Uncle Chip; null and void

Ping


10 posted on 02/26/2014 11:12:52 AM PST by FBD
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To: GeronL; Dead Corpse

Give this a read:

“Point of no return”

http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1393096910


11 posted on 02/26/2014 11:16:26 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

What??? Just because when I smell flowers I look around for a coffin does not make me a cynic! Does not! Does not!!!


12 posted on 02/26/2014 11:16:47 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: FBD

I heard the cops and media ask people for forgiveness.

lol

I hope not.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 11:19:39 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: null and void

Hehe! :-)


14 posted on 02/26/2014 11:21:57 AM PST by FBD
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To: GeronL

Some things are the same world round:


“Where is the investigation into last week’s carnage?”

http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1393209847


15 posted on 02/26/2014 11:24:59 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD; All

Blood and Berkut Sniper Bullets on the President’s Hands

http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1392772605


16 posted on 02/26/2014 11:28:49 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD

Was not Viktor Yanukovych previously elected President by a majority of Ukrainians? I heard of allegations of fraud, but was it any worse than what takes place in USA Presidential elections? Certainly Yanukovych still has a large number of supporters, doesn’t he?


17 posted on 02/26/2014 11:30:06 AM PST by PGR88
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To: GeronL
One of my favorites


18 posted on 02/26/2014 11:40:48 AM PST by PGR88
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To: PGR88

“You really don’t want to go in there!”


19 posted on 02/26/2014 11:41:42 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: FBD; All

How could their “charter of negative liberties” (constitution) have failed the citizens of the republic of Ukraine against corrupt, socialist/totalitarian leadership? Sheesh, it was just upgraded 10 years ago.

http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/44a280124.pdf

Or, are citizens of a “free” republic getting it right?

http://www.infowars.com/ukrainians-demand-2nd-amendment-in-new-constitution/


20 posted on 02/26/2014 11:47:35 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGR88

I think the operative word was *had* supporters. He’s fled, hiding out in some bunker.
Governing against the people has a way of losing their support, if you catch my drift. But when he ordered his Berkut to start shooting people? -That’s when he lost everyone. Think about this: the Ukrainian Parliament voted unanimously; 328-0 to impeach Yanukovich. Would that ever happen in this country?


21 posted on 02/26/2014 11:47:57 AM PST by FBD
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To: PGalt

That would be amazing if the Ukrainian’s added a second amendment, wouldn’t it? Liberals in this country would be besides themselves. :-)


22 posted on 02/26/2014 11:50:44 AM PST by FBD
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To: GeronL
Doesn't sound like the Ukrainians are in a very forgiving mood with the entire Yanukovich administration:

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=587943367954242&id=578771165538129&set=a.578782772203635.1073741828.578771165538129&source=48&refid=13

23 posted on 02/26/2014 11:56:23 AM PST by FBD
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To: FBD
That would be amazing if the Ukrainian’s added a second amendment, wouldn’t it? Liberals in this country would be besides themselves. :-)

LOL! Not to mention the EUROCRATS - UNaccountable bureaucrats/socialists/totalitarians.

Waiting for American spring BUMP!

24 posted on 02/26/2014 12:07:34 PM PST by PGalt
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To: GeronL; FBD; LowTaxesEqualsProsperity; Uncle Chip; null and void; Dead Corpse; PGR88; PGalt
love that pic

I will have to use it for something

Urinal mint?

25 posted on 02/26/2014 2:00:29 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

lol


26 posted on 02/26/2014 2:03:36 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

That’d be a big mint. You must really have to go....


27 posted on 02/26/2014 2:53:04 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Dead Corpse
That’d be a big mint. You must really have to go....

He was referring to the picture of the Lenin statue head.

28 posted on 02/26/2014 3:25:51 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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