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The car that runs on AIR: Peugot reveals plans for hybrid set to hit the streets next year
Daily Mail ^ | February 26, 2014 | Mark Prigg

Posted on 02/26/2014 1:07:24 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian

Peugeot has revealed plans to begin selling the first air powered car next year.

Based on a Peugeot 208, it will combine a normal engine with a radical new system that runs on compressed air.

The firm says the car could reduce petrol bills by 80% when driven in cities.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: prisoner6

Compressed air has been used since the 19th century to power mine locomotives and trams in cities such as Paris (via a central, city-level, compressed air energy distribution system), and was previously the basis of naval torpedo propulsion.

What’s old is new, again.


41 posted on 02/26/2014 1:35:42 PM PST by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: bert

how much energy does it take to compress the air?


42 posted on 02/26/2014 1:36:25 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

That is natural gas powered and runs on grass.


43 posted on 02/26/2014 1:36:38 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Cboldt
And where does this compressed air come from? A compressor? And what runs the compressor? Gasoline? No? Perhaps electricity? How does this electricity get produced? By burning fossil fuels or perhaps coal?
44 posted on 02/26/2014 1:37:16 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
I didn't see if the air tank is insulated enough to keep from losing heat generated when compressing the air.

I would like to see how far the air tank could drive you if you started out fully charged. I can never get a feel how big of storage a hybrid has other than the Chevy Volt's 40 miles on electricity.

It's an interesting idea. With the air boost when accelerating you don't need as big of engine as you would otherwise, thus gain efficiency that way. Also it has regenerative braking so you at least retain some of your energy which would otherwise be lost as heat in the brake pads and rotors.

45 posted on 02/26/2014 1:37:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Constitution Day

I know him! The famous crepitator, right? Fltulist? I was emulated him in the dorm of my prep school.


46 posted on 02/26/2014 1:37:39 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: F15Eagle

“But is it stealthy and how many missiles can it carry? “

No missiles., but lots of bombs.


47 posted on 02/26/2014 1:39:14 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Far more efficient to use the gas/coal/nuke directly. AND less polluting because of it.

But carrying around an engine big enough for decent acceleration is also inefficient. A smaller engine for cruising plus the hybrid system to give a kick to acceleration can be more efficient than a big engine.

48 posted on 02/26/2014 1:40:26 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

You are correct!


49 posted on 02/26/2014 1:40:59 PM PST by Constitution Day (Endeavor To Persevere)
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To: b4its2late

This is a hydraulic hybrid rebranded because hydraulics isn’t sexy.


50 posted on 02/26/2014 1:41:07 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: tet68

The problem is that all regenerative breaking systems add weight, complexity and require additional energy and materials to manufacture and eventually service. Those have to be considered and they are the things that proponents always leave out as they are all net loss.

The added weight means more energy is needed to move the car than if it was not there. And so little energy is regenerated that you cannot come close to getting a reasonable tradeoff.


51 posted on 02/26/2014 1:41:37 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Constitution Day

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Pétomane

Learn his “trick” and power your own vehicle!


52 posted on 02/26/2014 1:41:37 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Cboldt

Compressing air as a means of regenerative braking is fine, but it still isn’t efficient if they have to use the engine to compress air to run at low speeds.

Keeping smelly, visible pollution out of urban areas and dumping it out in the sticks makes libtards feel good.


53 posted on 02/26/2014 1:41:42 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Sounds like a science fair project.

GM, Toyota, Honda, Ford would have offered one years ago, if it worked.


54 posted on 02/26/2014 1:42:33 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: Ed Condon

Lewis and Clark left Pittsburgh - where I live - armed with air rifles. The demonstrated one on an island in the Ohio river near the city.

At least one person suffered serious injury from the bullet.

The weapons were useful for hunting but not all that accurate. At least they didn’t waste powder.

Great ideas but not always a practical solution.


55 posted on 02/26/2014 1:46:53 PM PST by prisoner6 (FREEDOM)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian


I got one of those in a box Quake when I was a kid!
56 posted on 02/26/2014 1:47:22 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: NYer

half a roof, no doors, 1/4 of a hood for the engine; no seat for the driver: Sorry I won’t buy it. too cold and not rain proof.


57 posted on 02/26/2014 1:49:06 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
It's not liked a cylinder of compressed gas is dangerous or anything.
58 posted on 02/26/2014 1:50:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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59 posted on 02/26/2014 1:50:29 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

But it’s French!

Wasn’t it Renault that came out with a rear engine air cooled car?


60 posted on 02/26/2014 1:52:20 PM PST by Gamecock
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