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Jonathan Turley: We are now at a constitutional tipping point in our system
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Posted on 02/26/2014 7:37:09 PM PST by Nachum

Jonathan Turley: We are now at a constitutional tipping point in our system February 26, 2014 www.FreeBeacon.com

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1 posted on 02/26/2014 7:37:09 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 02/26/2014 7:37:38 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum
so the SC and the Congress are not just passive, but "inert".....

inert....

how about traitors?.....how about statists nearing nazism...

3 posted on 02/26/2014 7:41:44 PM PST by cherry
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4 posted on 02/26/2014 7:43:28 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum
"When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt,
but protects the corrupt from you -
you know your nation is doomed."

-Ayn Rand

5 posted on 02/26/2014 7:43:51 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Nachum

The nation as we knew it will not survive Obama.

I highly recommend a bug-out plan. Seriously.


6 posted on 02/26/2014 7:43:59 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Nachum

No, Jonathan. We past that point around 40 years ago.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 7:44:32 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Nachum

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8 posted on 02/26/2014 7:50:00 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: cuban leaf; Old Sarge; Marcella; Windflier; wku man; raybbr; AllAmericanGirl44; OldPossum; ...

Seriously? Bug out to where? Where might it be better to live than The United States of America?


9 posted on 02/26/2014 7:55:30 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Nachum

That point was reached on November 4, 2008. The majority of voters that refer to themselves as Americans affirmed that on November 6, 2012 when they once again said that they wished to be ruled by a muslim.


10 posted on 02/26/2014 7:57:11 PM PST by sport
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To: bobby.223
Seriously? Bug out to where? Where might it be better to live than The United States of America?

Belize?

Pretty much anywhere that is not run by a MarxoFascist state Soviet-style dictatorship with an Islamic Apologist flavor.

11 posted on 02/26/2014 8:11:53 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Nachum

Good article about Turley
Ideology vs. reason and a constitutional crisis
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3127282/posts


12 posted on 02/26/2014 8:13:32 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: INVAR

I don’t buy any of this crap. The people of this country have a deep capacity for organizing and responding to crises. Plus, our capabilities for fixing problems that arise...we can handle this.

Tipping point? This is media hypnosis.


13 posted on 02/26/2014 8:14:40 PM PST by bioqubit
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To: INVAR; bobby.223
Good luck with that...don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'd rather die here on my own home soil, fighting to save what generations of Americans have passed along to me, than to run away for some temporary "safety". At least when I get to Fiddler's Green, I'll be able to look my forefathers in the eye, and tell 'em I stood and fought, instead of folding up the tents when things got tough.

If enough of us can overcome our fear and our self-preservation instinct, maybe we can prevail. But not if we all chicken out and run away.

Food for thought.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

14 posted on 02/26/2014 8:20:49 PM PST by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: bioqubit

I agree....the defeatism on our side is sickening.


15 posted on 02/26/2014 8:21:17 PM PST by tatown ("So a Hispanic shoots a black and is acquitted by women, but it's still white men's fault.")
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To: sport

There is no place to “bug out” to, FRiend. America is the last, best hope for freedom. And we all know it.

One could retreat into what little wilderness remains, to find a life that will be more endured than enjoyed. Even then, the sanctuary found will prove temporary at best.

We all know what we need to do. Please prepare for it. Get in shape, stock up, make plans and backup plans, and get mentally ready for hard times.

Good luck. Be strong.


16 posted on 02/26/2014 8:23:55 PM PST by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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To: bobby.223

“Seriously? Bug out to where? Where might it be better to live than The United States of America?”

Galt Gluch?

Seriously, as things get worse and worse, producers and right-minded people could pick the right state, sell-out where they’re at, and take their wealth, energy, industries, businesses and brains from their former homes in the kommie states and congregate in the new state(s). Texas and South Carolina might be good choices, for example.

This could become an actual, overt, announced strategy/movement.


17 posted on 02/26/2014 8:28:47 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: bioqubit

It may seem like the liberal lunatics and freeloaders have us outnumbered, but we’re a lot stronger and better prepared for the long haul. It might or might not get ugly, but I like our chances.


18 posted on 02/26/2014 8:32:54 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: bioqubit

Up until recently I would agree with your view. Unfortunately there has been an never ending loss of individual freedoms and increase in totalitarian oppression to make we very pessimistic our republic is going to survive. Perhaps there will still be a united states but one united under a republican government wherein the rule of law is supreme has almost become a historical note as we are now ruled by an uninformed self centered majority. Our national morality has been reduced to what feels good. That said, I am not giving up the fight but know I am getting weary seeing defeat upon defeat. The last positive battles for this land I can recall was the election of Reagan and the GOP win in 1994 and yet rather than being a trend, both were only upward blips on a downward trajectory of our culture.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 8:36:21 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: cuban leaf

The Soviets had a Constitution, with many great features and freedoms, and, was most notable in how it was ignored. We have seen where this leads. The fact that we are getting there, led by an incompetent bOOb, is new.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 8:37:28 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: bioqubit
The people of this country have a deep capacity for organizing and responding to crises. Plus, our capabilities for fixing problems that arise...we can handle this.

Responding to natural or man made catastrophes that suddenly devastate - YES, we had a capacity to do so.

But slow incremental enslavement to Government Socialism? I think Jefferson knew human nature better than most of are willing to admit.

"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

Mankind's nature is one that desires safety and security - even if it's a despotism. Ancient Israel is a perfect example - there God Himself led them into liberty and they wailed and moaned and wished they were back in captivity in Egypt because risk was too much for them to handle.

In addition, we are NOT the same people our forbears were, nor are we the same people we were just two generations ago. There are a good number of us to be sure, but we are in a woeful minority of anyone willing to risk our lives, fortunes or sacred honor to go up against the Beast. Many have bought the lie that we should not judge, nor act in any uncivil manner towards those things anathema to our foundations - and that doing so is the worst kind of sin.

Tipping point? Economics will make the fact we reached that point some time ago very plain and certain in our very near future. Math does not lie, and simple math says we are way beyond the tipping point - economically.

Everything else will follow in terms of the divisions carefully placed and laid like a minefield in this society.

21 posted on 02/26/2014 8:38:31 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Heck as long as I have AC I’m happy.


22 posted on 02/26/2014 8:40:04 PM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS .......... TERM LIMITS)
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To: DNME
My next stop is the graveyard. Other than that I am not planning on going anywhere. I was born free and when I die, I will die free. Whether that happens to be of natural causes or not. Long ago I made my peace with my Maker. From my front yard to my back yard is as far as I plan on traveling. And same to you My FRiend.

I understand that it is coming as sure as Monday follows Sunday. When it will come is what I do not know. If they decide to wait, that is o.k. with me. If they decide to rush, that is still o.k. with me. I , personally, hope that the people in CT stand up to them.

23 posted on 02/26/2014 8:42:59 PM PST by sport
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To: wku man
Good luck with that...don't let the door hit you on the way out.

It was a semi-humourous rhetorical reply.

The longer this people wait to stop this tyranny the more blood is going to be spilled in resisting it or overcoming it.

I cannot even get enough to agree that it is time to defy and refuse the crap coming from the regime. Many have lost their ability to discern good from evil, liberty from tyranny. As long as cable and beer is available, many say we're all good, even if it's EBT cards obtaining it.

24 posted on 02/26/2014 8:45:17 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tatown

Yep. The thing the Leftist control is “perceptions” . They control the “poll” results and they want people to feel “defeatism” and fear. because they are really a minority, although they have trillions of dollars working for them.

They are in a lot of trouble, because of the internet and the Truth/God. There are enough cracks in their control of the MSM, and they are really scared sh*tless and trying to cover up all their evil deeds, which can’t be done now.

But, it is time, to take back the country and get back to the Constitutional Rights and Rule of Law. Otherwise—we will go Down (as Cicero stated). Without Rule of Law we can not survive.


25 posted on 02/26/2014 8:55:58 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Nachum
We are now at a constitutional tipping point in our system...Turley continues to bloviate and still dodges the big question - do you support impeachment and removal of this president, who you seem to think violated his oath to faithfully execute the laws of the land????.....
26 posted on 02/26/2014 8:58:14 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: cuban leaf
I'm not bugging out if I still have the capacity to thrust a bayonet through the throat of someone trying to take my freedom away.

I didn't carry a rifle for this nation for 20 years, only to stack arms at the end of my life.

27 posted on 02/26/2014 9:21:49 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: wku man; INVAR; bobby.223

My thoughts exactly. When the time comes, when they come for folks, you only need to get one bad guy (any more is frosting). There’s more of us than them, they’ll run out of bodies or balls first...


28 posted on 02/26/2014 9:23:37 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Intolerant in NJ
do you support impeachment and removal of this president, who you seem to think violated his oath to faithfully execute the laws of the land????…..

Impeachment is a political impossibility. Not even the so-called "opposition party" will support it.

History teaches that despotic leaders never leave power via civil means. NEVER.

It wouldn't matter if a Constitutional amendment was drafted and ratified to remove Obama and his regime from power. Those now ruling us have said and acted plainly that the rule of law is whatever they say it is. Holder said that they can ignore the laws they do not like.

So given that reality - how in the blazes does any logical thinking person ask for impeachment of this regime??

Might as well be wishing for snow cones on the surface of the sun.

29 posted on 02/26/2014 9:27:54 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Axenolith

Exactly what Solzhenitsyn advised what SHOULD have been done when they had the chance.

Will enough of us remember? Or be too starved, impoverished and trod down to resist?


30 posted on 02/26/2014 9:30:05 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: depressed in 06
we are getting there, led by an incompetent bOOb

don't think he is a boob at all. He and the people behind him have been is very clever and immensely successful at dismantling this country, it's institutions, and our Constitution in a few short years - including the success at convincing people he is "incompetent" when the results ay he is not. He has thrown the nation into a paralyzing chaos.

I would say he is being very successful.

31 posted on 02/26/2014 9:30:32 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: Axenolith

This is a serious question. How many people do you think would have to be arrested on trumped up BS charges before enough people would revolt?


32 posted on 02/26/2014 9:34:11 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: INVAR

What really pisses me off is people like Brit Hume, Megyn Kelly and Bill O’Reilly are completely surprised by what obama is doing. They’re supposed to be on top of things but we now know they, like obama, only read what’s on the teleprompter.


33 posted on 02/26/2014 9:36:48 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: catnipman
Texas and South Carolina might be good choices, for example.

Texas and South Carolina ARE good choices, and have been for some time. I thank the Good Lord every day He lead me to move to SC.

34 posted on 02/26/2014 9:41:14 PM PST by upchuck (South Carolina Representative Trey Gowdy for Speaker of the House!!!)
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To: INVAR
Those now ruling us have said and acted plainly that the rule of law is whatever they say it is.

This is one reason I Hate, Loathe, and Despise the Supreme Court centered notion that the Constitution is whatever they say it is.

35 posted on 02/26/2014 9:42:22 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
This is a serious question. How many people do you think would have to be arrested on trumped up BS charges before enough people would revolt?

I think it very-much depends on how public/widespread they are. The government could likely get a lot more people out of the way where they snap people up quietly and quickly than something that is big and loud. Also, the [perceived] frequency of them would alter attitudes: just look at the change of attitude towards the police in the last few years esp. WRT their accidental wrong-address no-knock raids.

36 posted on 02/26/2014 9:46:59 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: wku man

I am now calling it “Opening a can of Ukraine” on them. Do we (as a nation) have the guts it takes to do this?

How do we defeat tanks in our streets? How do we defeat Jug Ears air force? How do we defeat our neighbor who is a police officer? Where do we learn?


37 posted on 02/26/2014 9:50:23 PM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: DNME

Amen.


38 posted on 02/26/2014 10:28:59 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: DNME

Amen.


39 posted on 02/26/2014 10:30:20 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: DNME

Amen.


40 posted on 02/26/2014 10:32:52 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: sport
That point was reached on November 4, 2008. The majority of voters that refer to themselves as Americans affirmed that on November 6, 2012 when they once again said that they wished to be ruled by a muslim.

The majority of Americans did not vote for odinga. Their votes were cancelled out by fraudulent votes.


24M Voter Registrations Invalid, Pew Reports
By Enjoli Francis
Feb 14, 2012 5:15pm

41 posted on 02/26/2014 10:50:08 PM PST by meadsjn
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Yeah, but Turley still supports what Obama stands for...

Idiot.


42 posted on 02/26/2014 10:54:25 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cuban leaf
The nation as we knew it will not survive Obama. I highly recommend a bug-out plan. Seriously.

There are 100,000,000 armed citizens in this country. We have absolutely no reason to run from anyone.

43 posted on 02/26/2014 11:02:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: meadsjn

No American voted for the bastard. But that does not negate the fact that he stills occupies the White House.


44 posted on 02/26/2014 11:02:04 PM PST by sport
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To: INVAR
"Seriously? Bug out to where? Where might it be better to live than The United States of America?"

Belize?

Pretty much anywhere that is not run by a MarxoFascist state Soviet-style dictatorship with an Islamic Apologist flavor.

Yet again, you reveal yourself to be a surrender monkey who's all too keen on encouraging others to stand down and run away from the fight.

Turn in your Freeper card.

45 posted on 02/26/2014 11:04:41 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum

BMFL


46 posted on 02/26/2014 11:05:54 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: wku man; NFHale; DuncanWaring; Marcella; Old Sarge; AllAmericanGirl44; raybbr; OldPossum; ...
I'd rather die here on my own home soil, fighting to save what generations of Americans have passed along to me, than to run away for some temporary "safety". At least when I get to Fiddler's Green, I'll be able to look my forefathers in the eye, and tell 'em I stood and fought, instead of folding up the tents when things got tough.

Amen, brother Dawg. I am so done with the surrender monkeys and purveyors of cowardice around here. If they want to run and hide, I say good riddance. They need to turn in their Freeper cards and leave the discussions to those who still have the will and the backbone to fight.

47 posted on 02/26/2014 11:12:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
How many times are you going to misuse the term..”bugout”?

Most people I know already have a bugout plan. I does not generally mean to get on a airplane and go to a foreign country. It means to have a plan to get you and yours to a place of safety, should society breakdown.

In such a situation, cities and many smaller metro areas will become campfires. Looting, burning, killing, and all in between.

If you don't have a plan in place for that possibility, then you should make one.....sooner the better.

48 posted on 02/26/2014 11:21:54 PM PST by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Windflier
Yet again, you reveal yourself to be a surrender monkey who's all too keen on encouraging others to stand down and run away from the fight.

As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. Obviously rhetorical answers escapes your intelligence.

That said - since you fashion yourself as a 'fightin' man' - what are you personally going to do to stop all this unConstitutional tyranny?

I'll wager it's along the lines of voting for an Establishment Vichy Republican while convincing yourself you are saving the Constitution

I peg your kind as the first to run in terror or the first to get mowed down when the balloon goes up.

49 posted on 02/27/2014 12:20:55 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Nachum

This A-Hole would be the first to endorse Obama, if Obama suspended elections. I wish there was a way to make just the idiots who voted for this guy twice suffer the consequences of their profound stupidity!


50 posted on 02/27/2014 12:33:25 AM PST by Artcore
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