Skip to comments.Concealed-weapon permit applications flood O.C. Sheriff's Department
Posted on 02/26/2014 8:41:39 PM PST by bkopto
People are applying for concealed-weapon permits in droves in Orange County, after a federal court ruled Californians dont have to justify their need for the permit.
In less than two weeks, the Orange County Sheriffs Department has received more than 500 applications for concealed-weapon permits about the same number of applications received in all of 2013.
Theyve been absolutely inundated, said Lt. Jeff Hallock about the personnel assigned to process the applications.
The deluge of applications came after a Feb. 13 federal appeals court ruling that said applicants wanting a concealed-weapon permit in California no longer have to justify their need for one.
The decision was praised by gun-rights groups as a landmark decision, and sheriffs officials said the applications quickly came in.
However, the large number of applications has not meant an immediate increase in approvals, officials said.
Because of the surge of applications, known as CCWs, for Carry Concealed Weapon, the process for approval has been significantly slowed down.
Before the court decision, applications were typically approved in less than a month, Hallock said.
Those applying for a CCW today can expect to wait until August or September until the application is processed, he said.
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Finally, some good news from the federal courts.
I got my CC in the 90’s now I am not sure I would apply. People seem to think registration is the first step to confiscation and what bigger step could you take than a CC? Just my two bits.
“Those applying for a CCW today can expect to wait until”
the ruling is appealed/reversed.
The decision is “stayed” until somewhere around March 14. If no appeal is filed, the decision is binding on the Western States only.
Well, not as good as I hoped, but it’s a start.
Hurry on over and get your name on a list. Kiss off another element of surprise.
I have had mine about that long as well, and have the same concerns. But it's nice to be able to but a gun without any checking/waiting.
My state does not require that you register weapons unless it is at the time of sale in state. If you purchase something out of state, it is between you and the buyer.
Texas has no registration either, just the background check if you do not have a CHL. The CHL allows a bypass of the check, and waiting period.
Intra-state sales between two private parties is legal as long as there isn’t a state/local prohibition. For example, I could sell a handgun to another resident of my home state but they have to have a pistol purchase permit. Kalifornia (and most recently Kolorado) and several other states, for example, requires that all intra-state sales between two private parties go through an FFL dealer in that state.
Inter-state sales and transfers between two private parties is wholly ILLEGAL per federal law. The sale needs to go through an FFL dealer in the home state of the transferee. The person selling the firearm can transfer it to an FFL dealer (either in person or by shipping it to them) for subsequent transfer to the purchaser but is violating the law if they do a direct physical transfer to the purchaser who’s a resident of another state.
Constitution says right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Requiring a government permit to bear arms is precisely the kind of thing our founders fought our revolutionary war to overcome, prevent in this country.
Yes....but get caught carrying concealed in most jurisdictions and you will be facing serious charges. You could end up a felon and prohibited from
owning ANY modern firearms. I can’t think of a single law involving the sale
or ownership of guns that ISN’T a violation of the BOR. Doesn’t stop them
from enforcing those laws and using them to destroy people who run afoul of them.
Anyone whose name is NOT on a list is suspect, in my opinion.
In Praise of Private Gun Sales
Yes, a win for the conservatives but ALSO for the bad guys.
Posting on this thread, buying firearm on a 4473, having a hunting license ,visiting any firearm related web site, belong to a pro gun group, having ever brought any firearms relate items with your credit card.
Are among the many things that well put you on the list.
‘Theyve been absolutely inundated, said Lt. Jeff Hallock about the personnel assigned to process the applications.’
Code for its going to take years and years for us to process them....if we get to them at all.
“Code for its going to take years and years for us to process them....if we get to them at all.”
Justice delayed is justice denied.
Thank you for the perfect explanation. I will also mention that when I visit Ohio, I cannot purchase a weapon at a Gun Show without a valid in-state ID, e.g., resident of Ohio. This is a pain because guns are so cheap in Ohio compared to around Fort Bragg which is flush with GI Ca$h.
We can't know exactly what WILL happen but I do know what SHOULD happen. If things go as they should, most counties in Kalifornia will be similarly flooded with applications. Delays in processing may well be the subject of a new suit.
The Sheriff should process applications "first-come-first-served". I was trying to insure that I was at the beginning of what may be a very long line.
The Kalifornia law permits great discretion on the part of the Sheriff in applying requirements. He now cannot insist on a "good cause" beyond self-defense. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to determine, now that the right is an individual fundamental right, that the Sheriff is entirely UNJUSTIFIED in infringing the right of any applicant by choosing to apply the onerous provisions of Kalifornia law. He doesn't have to do it, so he shouldn't do it. And he shouldn't wait until a court tells him that he can't do it.
If I refuse to supply letters of reference attesting to my "good moral character" is the Sheriff justified in refusing to approve my permit? No.
If I refuse to have my personal physician attest to my capabilities, is the Sheriff justified in refusing me? No.
If I refuse to subject myself to a psychologist's examination, is he justified in refusing me? No.
If I, a military veteran who holds concealed carry permits from four other states, refuse to undergo the expensive and time-consuming training, is he justified in refusing me? No.
And finally, is the Sheriff justified in making me PAY for the above infringements, perhaps totally $500 or more? Absolutely not.
We live in interesting times.
You can always arrange to have the gun shipped to an FFL in your home state. The fees and shipping eat up some of the savings but perhaps not all.