Skip to comments.Stop Being Stupid!
Posted on 02/27/2014 5:22:44 AM PST by Kaslin
Wouldnt it be nice if conservatives could go a week without some group or individuals doing or saying something embarrassing? At least, I think it would be nice, but I have no proof because it hasnt happened in ages.
Theres been so much stupidity in the last couple of weeks its hard to keep track of it all. Here are just a few examples and how they should have been handled.
Ted Nugent called President Obama a subhuman mongrel. Ted is Ted. I get that. And Teds going to be Ted no matter what you do. Hes not going to change. So if youre going to do political events with Ted Nugent you have to be prepared to take the heat that comes with it.
You can point out President Obama launched his career in the living room of a terrorist and that his pastor the man who performed his wedding and served as a mentor is a racist, anti-American bigot. But that isnt going to change anything.
With Ted, you cant take the good and ignore the bad. He isnt a racist, though he is painted as one because he commits the sin of not being progressive. He need not change his words to fit anyones PC demands. But if you are running for office and have him do an event for you, you have to know he may well say something you will be left to explain. Being blindsided by this is like being shocked the sun rose in the east this morning. Be smart going in, or dont go in. Simple, really.
Which brings us to Arizona, where the legislature passed a bill that would allow people who own businesses to adhere to their religious beliefs and not be forced to, for example, bake a cake for a gay wedding. It absurdly has been described by progressives as the new Jim Crow.
You may wonder why gay couples would want to patronize businesses whose owners believe the gay lifestyle is a mortal sin. But they seek out these businesses on purpose to force these controversies into the courts. Progressives dont often win at the ballot box, but they do win in the courts because courts are packed with activist judges that create laws no legislature would impose.
So, if you are the baker, and the gay couple chooses you to bake a cake, bake it and donate the money to your church. This forces them to fund that which they hate, foils the reason they chose you in the first place and provides you a nice tax write-off. Besides, you dont endorse every event you bake a cake for. And if youve been in the business any length of time, youve probably baked a cake for some awful people.
Id prefer a world where people could refuse to bake cakes or refuse service to anyone for any reason, and people are free to publicize the hell out of it. I wouldnt patronize places that refused to serve people based on their skin color, sexual orientation or political beliefs, but thats just me. I have more faith in the market than the courts to handle issues like this. But the courts are where cases like this end up if youre not smart about it. So take their money, and tell them youre going to give it to your church. And if they still want the cake, bake it. But keep government out of it.
The Conservative Political Action Conference is next week, and it wouldnt be CPAC were there not some media frenzy over some group excluded or included. Its usually GOProud, the gay conservative group that is, according to the media, banned from getting a booth at CPAC.
Whether this is true is a matter for debate. Ive been told by someone in a position to know that, at least three years ago, GOProud didnt have enough money to sponsor and get a booth. Considering the two founders of GOProud left the group recently, and that top officers of groups rarely leave organizations that are flush with cash, I think this may be a factor.
When was the last time youve heard of GOProud outside of a story about CPAC? Thats not to say it couldnt have been a productive, helpful group, its just to say it hasnt been.
Thats also not to say that CPAC couldnt have handled it better.
CPAC should be what it was started to be a conference for conservatives of all stripes to get together and network. There are national security conservatives, social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, people for whom abortion is their top issue and people for whom abortion doesnt make their top 10. And yes, there are gay conservatives. There should be a simple requirement for sponsorship your group is some sort of conservative.
Having gay conservatives doesnt mean you have to accept the gay lifestyle any more than having religious conservatives means you have to adhere to the Bible to participate. Donald Trump, whos been married three times and had donated a lot of money to very liberal Democrats over the years, is a speaker again this year, for crying out loud.
On Tuesday there was even more controversy about CPAC when word broke that American Atheists, whose name pretty much sums up what the group is about, would be welcomed to CPAC and have its own booth. Its conservative bona fides? None. Literally none. Group leaders said they wanted to be there to reach out to atheists who happened to be conservative, or so they say. I suspect they wanted to be there to see what happens, but who really cares?
Soon after the news broke, CPAC reversed itself and announced the group no longer was welcome. It never should have been allowed in the first place. Not because its a group of atheists, but because its not conservative. It doesnt advocate for anything expressly conservative; it just wants to be provocative. This is CPAC, not ProvocativePAC. But this bungle gave the media fodder to make CPAC and conservatives look stupid.
My faith, and I would hope this goes for anyone else with faith in anything, isnt threatened by someone else not sharing it. Im no sooner going to turn into a secular progressive simply because my best friend is one any more than I am to turn gay because my oldest friend happens to be. How CPAC was caught off guard by this, and is nearly every year, remains a mystery.
Its pretty simple: Have a set of criteria that a group be conservative on some issue (national defense, social issues, fiscal issues, whatever) and, if youve got the money, youre in. If you want to win elections, which should be the point, no one of those groups is going to carry the day on their own. They need each other.
As CPAC approaches, its important to remember and take heed from the words of President Ronald Reagan, who said, The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally not a 20 percent traitor. Conservatives are on the verge of major potential victory in November, if they could remember that, stop pointless infighting and stop being so damn stupid.
Continue telling the truth and challenging the lib talking points just don’t use derogatory names or loose composure. The press will always spin it badly.
What about photographers that actually have to take part in the wedding to take pictures?
So coercion of businesses is fine with this guy.
‘RIV3RS?’ What does that spell/mean?
For any philosophy—whether reasonable or silly, accurate or absurd, good or evil—there are going to be stupid people who agree with it. And they will say stupid things on behalf of it. For propagandists opposed to such a philosophy, this fact will be used to discredit it. Our goal should be to point out the fallacy in this kind of argument.
Obama and his ilk can denigrate us as Bible Thumpers, clinging to our Guns and Bibles; we can’t say anything that upsets them (or their media).
Obama’s Holder says he’ll only prosecute White-on-black crimes as hate crimes; we can’t say that blacks are the primary instigators of the knockout game.
Frankly, I’m tire of the advice. It does not make one whit of a difference. Whatever our response, or feelings, or anything, the left will ALWAYS find a way to make it derogatory, inflammatory, racist or homophobic. Always.
I’m damned tired of tippy-toeing, myself. I think I want some “get-in-your-face” confrontation like Obama tells HIS supporters. [I didn’t even mention the knife-fight/gun option he implied]
I didn’t say don’t get in their face. You just can’t call them a mongrel or such things in this day of PC crap.
Conservatives need to stop apologizing and just double down.
Apparently you haven’t watched anything on MSNBC or any of the other shows where their guests and host regularly refer to the Tea Party, for example, with equally disturbing epithets. I’m not buying it.
That's what democrats do.
Democrats goof up as much, or more, as conseratives but the media gives them as much cover as possible.
I don’t watch any news channel with an alphabet name.
Mongrel? Way too kind. The steaming turd kenyan dictator is the son of a pig f’n dog. PC crap it is. As another poster said, double down like the democrat party.
GOP proud is still raging on about RNC Committeeman Dave Agema reminding people that opposition to gay marriage is in the party platform. He says he’ll continue to stand by it even if it is just meaningless voter bait in the eyes of the GOPe.
As far as women’s issues are concerned conservative men should not shut up. That is just democrats trying to silence half the competition. Democrats certainly don’t demand that liberal men shut up about women’s issues.
Be smart but be bold.
not only that but he doesn’t understand that people with religious convictions want no part in helping someone else commit sin.
“The press will always spin it badly.”
Anything a non-Liberal says will be negatively spun by the Media.
Lived with it.
“Ted Nugent called President Obama a subhuman mongrel.
But he is. It’s the truth. It’s a proven fact that Obama
lies, cheats, steals and has total disregard for human life.
He’s godless and he is totally intent on bringing all of
humanity down to serfdom. He is a champion of tyranny and
absolute control of life and death over the human race.
not having or showing the level of kindness, intelligence, etc., that is expected of normal human beings
A mongrel or mutt is a dog that is not the result of breeding and belongs to no breed. Wiki.
Even Wikipedia agrees.
So we cancel out each other I guess.
“You just cant call them a mongrel or such things in this day of PC crap.”
Perhaps you can’t (or won’t).
I can, as this example illustrates:
As the President has been called a “mongrel”, in effect a “bastard”, the only way to settle the issue is for the President to unseal his records.
As the lawyers say, “Strict proof is demanded.”
As for the “sub-human” part, Barack Hussein Obama is pro Muslim, sufficient reason to apply the following: “If you support a Muslim, you are a Muslim.”
There is nothing less humane than a Muslim, hence a case for the application of “sub-human” to Obama can logically and rationally made.
Okay, Mr. Hunter, let's play a game. Ted Cruz is also speaking at CPAC. Who will get a better reception? You guess first.
"There should be a simple requirement for sponsorship - your group is some sort of conservative."
"Some sort of conservative" is how we get born losers like John McCain and Mitt Romney as Presidential nominees. I'm waiting for the where the first and third letters in CPAC take precedence over the second and fourth.