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Stop Being Stupid!
Townhall.com ^ | February 27, 2014 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 02/27/2014 5:22:44 AM PST by Kaslin

Wouldn’t it be nice if conservatives could go a week without some group or individuals doing or saying something embarrassing? At least, I think it would be nice, but I have no proof because it hasn’t happened in ages.

There’s been so much stupidity in the last couple of weeks it’s hard to keep track of it all. Here are just a few examples and how they should have been handled.

Ted Nugent called President Obama a “subhuman mongrel.” Ted is Ted. I get that. And Ted’s going to be Ted no matter what you do. He’s not going to change. So if you’re going to do political events with Ted Nugent you have to be prepared to take the heat that comes with it.

You can point out President Obama launched his career in the living room of a terrorist and that his pastor – the man who performed his wedding and served as a mentor – is a racist, anti-American bigot. But that isn’t going to change anything.

With Ted, you can’t take the good and ignore the bad. He isn’t a racist, though he is painted as one because he commits the sin of not being progressive. He need not change his words to fit anyone’s PC demands. But if you are running for office and have him do an event for you, you have to know he may well say something you will be left to explain. Being blindsided by this is like being shocked the sun rose in the east this morning. Be smart going in, or don’t go in. Simple, really.

Which brings us to Arizona, where the legislature passed a bill that would allow people who own businesses to adhere to their religious beliefs and not be forced to, for example, bake a cake for a gay wedding. It absurdly has been described by progressives as “the new Jim Crow.”

You may wonder why gay couples would want to patronize businesses whose owners believe the gay lifestyle is a mortal sin. But they seek out these businesses on purpose – to force these controversies into the courts. Progressives don’t often win at the ballot box, but they do win in the courts because courts are packed with activist judges that create laws no legislature would impose.

So, if you are the baker, and the gay couple chooses you to bake a cake, bake it and donate the money to your church. This forces them to fund that which they hate, foils the reason they chose you in the first place and provides you a nice tax write-off. Besides, you don’t endorse every event you bake a cake for. And if you’ve been in the business any length of time, you’ve probably baked a cake for some awful people.

I’d prefer a world where people could refuse to bake cakes or refuse service to anyone for any reason, and people are free to publicize the hell out of it. I wouldn’t patronize places that refused to serve people based on their skin color, sexual orientation or political beliefs, but that’s just me. I have more faith in the market than the courts to handle issues like this. But the courts are where cases like this end up if you’re not smart about it. So take their money, and tell them you’re going to give it to your church. And if they still want the cake, bake it. But keep government out of it.

The Conservative Political Action Conference is next week, and it wouldn’t be CPAC were there not some media frenzy over some group excluded or included. It’s usually GOProud, the gay conservative group that is, according to the media, banned from getting a booth at CPAC.

Whether this is true is a matter for debate. I’ve been told by someone in a position to know that, at least three years ago, GOProud didn’t have enough money to sponsor and get a booth. Considering the two founders of GOProud left the group recently, and that top officers of groups rarely leave organizations that are flush with cash, I think this may be a factor.

When was the last time you’ve heard of GOProud outside of a story about CPAC? That’s not to say it couldn’t have been a productive, helpful group, it’s just to say it hasn’t been.

That’s also not to say that CPAC couldn’t have handled it better.

CPAC should be what it was started to be – a conference for conservatives of all stripes to get together and network. There are national security conservatives, social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, people for whom abortion is their top issue and people for whom abortion doesn’t make their top 10. And yes, there are gay conservatives. There should be a simple requirement for sponsorship – your group is some sort of conservative.

Having gay conservatives doesn’t mean you have to “accept” the gay lifestyle any more than having religious conservatives means you have to adhere to the Bible to participate. Donald Trump, who’s been married three times and had donated a lot of money to very liberal Democrats over the years, is a speaker again this year, for crying out loud.

On Tuesday there was even more controversy about CPAC when word broke that American Atheists, whose name pretty much sums up what the group is about, would be welcomed to CPAC and have its own booth. Its conservative bona fides? None. Literally none. Group leaders said they wanted to be there to reach out to atheists who happened to be conservative, or so they say. I suspect they wanted to be there to “see what happens,” but who really cares?

Soon after the news broke, CPAC reversed itself and announced the group no longer was welcome. It never should have been allowed in the first place. Not because it’s a group of atheists, but because it’s not conservative. It doesn’t advocate for anything expressly conservative; it just wants to be provocative. This is CPAC, not ProvocativePAC. But this bungle gave the media fodder to make CPAC and conservatives look stupid.

My faith, and I would hope this goes for anyone else with faith in anything, isn’t threatened by someone else not sharing it. I’m no sooner going to turn into a secular progressive simply because my best friend is one any more than I am to “turn gay” because my oldest friend happens to be. How CPAC was caught off guard by this, and is nearly every year, remains a mystery.

It’s pretty simple: Have a set of criteria – that a group be conservative on some issue (national defense, social issues, fiscal issues, whatever) and, if you’ve got the money, you’re in. If you want to win elections, which should be the point, no one of those groups is going to carry the day on their own. They need each other.

As CPAC approaches, it’s important to remember and take heed from the words of President Ronald Reagan, who said, “The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor.” Conservatives are on the verge of major potential victory in November, if they could remember that, stop pointless infighting and stop being so damn stupid.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: cpac2014; goproud; tednugent

1 posted on 02/27/2014 5:22:44 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Continue telling the truth and challenging the lib talking points just don’t use derogatory names or loose composure. The press will always spin it badly.


2 posted on 02/27/2014 5:26:53 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Kaslin

What about photographers that actually have to take part in the wedding to take pictures?

So coercion of businesses is fine with this guy.


3 posted on 02/27/2014 5:29:05 AM PST by DLfromthedesert (She accomplished nothing: should have stayed at home and baked cookies)
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To: Kaslin

‘RIV3RS?’ What does that spell/mean?


4 posted on 02/27/2014 5:29:48 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Kaslin

For any philosophy—whether reasonable or silly, accurate or absurd, good or evil—there are going to be stupid people who agree with it. And they will say stupid things on behalf of it. For propagandists opposed to such a philosophy, this fact will be used to discredit it. Our goal should be to point out the fallacy in this kind of argument.


5 posted on 02/27/2014 5:34:04 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Resolute Conservative
Continue telling the truth and challenging the lib talking points just don’t use derogatory names or loose composure. The press will always spin it badly.

Unless you're telling them what they want to hear. Just yesterday a Young Republicans official called tea partiers a bunch of senile, drooling, bullies.
6 posted on 02/27/2014 5:35:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Obama and his ilk can denigrate us as Bible Thumpers, clinging to our Guns and Bibles; we can’t say anything that upsets them (or their media).

Obama’s Holder says he’ll only prosecute White-on-black crimes as hate crimes; we can’t say that blacks are the primary instigators of the knockout game.

Frankly, I’m tire of the advice. It does not make one whit of a difference. Whatever our response, or feelings, or anything, the left will ALWAYS find a way to make it derogatory, inflammatory, racist or homophobic. Always.

I’m damned tired of tippy-toeing, myself. I think I want some “get-in-your-face” confrontation like Obama tells HIS supporters. [I didn’t even mention the knife-fight/gun option he implied]


7 posted on 02/27/2014 5:36:43 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer

I didn’t say don’t get in their face. You just can’t call them a mongrel or such things in this day of PC crap.


8 posted on 02/27/2014 5:39:30 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Kaslin

Conservatives need to stop apologizing and just double down.


9 posted on 02/27/2014 5:39:53 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Apparently you haven’t watched anything on MSNBC or any of the other shows where their guests and host regularly refer to the Tea Party, for example, with equally disturbing epithets. I’m not buying it.


10 posted on 02/27/2014 5:41:41 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Monterrosa-24
Conservatives need to stop apologizing and just double down.

That's what democrats do.

Democrats goof up as much, or more, as conseratives but the media gives them as much cover as possible.


11 posted on 02/27/2014 5:43:17 AM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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To: Gaffer

I don’t watch any news channel with an alphabet name.


12 posted on 02/27/2014 5:46:24 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Mongrel? Way too kind. The steaming turd kenyan dictator is the son of a pig f’n dog. PC crap it is. As another poster said, double down like the democrat party.


13 posted on 02/27/2014 5:47:49 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Gaffer

GOP proud is still raging on about RNC Committeeman Dave Agema reminding people that opposition to gay marriage is in the party platform. He says he’ll continue to stand by it even if it is just meaningless voter bait in the eyes of the GOPe.

As far as women’s issues are concerned conservative men should not shut up. That is just democrats trying to silence half the competition. Democrats certainly don’t demand that liberal men shut up about women’s issues.

Be smart but be bold.


14 posted on 02/27/2014 5:51:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

not only that but he doesn’t understand that people with religious convictions want no part in helping someone else commit sin.


15 posted on 02/27/2014 5:52:40 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: Resolute Conservative

“The press will always spin it badly.”

Anything a non-Liberal says will be negatively spun by the Media.

Lived with it.


16 posted on 02/27/2014 6:19:37 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Kaslin

“Ted Nugent called President Obama a “subhuman mongrel.”

But he is. It’s the truth. It’s a proven fact that Obama
lies, cheats, steals and has total disregard for human life.
He’s godless and he is totally intent on bringing all of
humanity down to serfdom. He is a champion of tyranny and
absolute control of life and death over the human race.

Subhuman:
not having or showing the level of kindness, intelligence, etc., that is expected of normal human beings

Mongrel:
A mongrel or mutt is a dog that is not the result of breeding and belongs to no breed. Wiki.

Even Wikipedia agrees.


17 posted on 02/27/2014 6:25:43 AM PST by Slambat
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To: cripplecreek; GraceG; MeganC; GeronL
Well Yeah Cripple, But This Young Tea Partier calls John McCain a drooling bully.

So we cancel out each other I guess.

18 posted on 02/27/2014 6:26:59 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Resolute Conservative

“You just can’t call them a mongrel or such things in this day of PC crap.”

Perhaps you can’t (or won’t).

I can, as this example illustrates:
As the President has been called a “mongrel”, in effect a “bastard”, the only way to settle the issue is for the President to unseal his records.

As the lawyers say, “Strict proof is demanded.”

As for the “sub-human” part, Barack Hussein Obama is pro Muslim, sufficient reason to apply the following: “If you support a Muslim, you are a Muslim.”

There is nothing less humane than a Muslim, hence a case for the application of “sub-human” to Obama can logically and rationally made.

;-)


19 posted on 02/27/2014 6:29:45 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Kaslin
"Donald Trump, who’s been married three times and had donated a lot of money to very liberal Democrats over the years, is a speaker again this year, for crying out loud."

Okay, Mr. Hunter, let's play a game. Ted Cruz is also speaking at CPAC. Who will get a better reception? You guess first.

"There should be a simple requirement for sponsorship - your group is some sort of conservative."

"Some sort of conservative" is how we get born losers like John McCain and Mitt Romney as Presidential nominees. I'm waiting for the where the first and third letters in CPAC take precedence over the second and fourth.

20 posted on 02/27/2014 6:34:01 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: KC_Lion

I forget that you’re a “young” republican because you don’t use youth as a qualifier.


21 posted on 02/27/2014 6:36:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

Wouldn’t it be nice if conservatives could go a week only having to worry about liberals, rather than which “conservative” pundit would be stabbing them in the back?


22 posted on 02/27/2014 6:37:02 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kaslin

I think donating the money to your church and making sure the gay customers know you are going to do it is a great idea!


23 posted on 02/27/2014 6:49:54 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Kaslin

Wouldn’t it be nice if spineless, wimpified republican propagandists would stop attacking the few Conservatives that are actually fighting to save this once great Republic???


24 posted on 02/27/2014 7:30:06 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

What about what they call us and why is it that they never pay a price? Do you know how to defeat the fact that they can call Bush hitler and a murderer and the dumbest Texas hick to ever draw breath and call us tea baggers and imbeciles and racists and etc etc etc and the fact that THEY NEVER PAY ANY PRICE???


25 posted on 02/27/2014 7:33:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Kaslin

There are many pagans and heathens in society today.

Most Christian businesses don’t realize who they’re serving because they don’t think about it, they just keep doing their jobs.

This just stands out because the customer openly admitted their habitual defiance of God’s Law.

Many other customers may frequently defy God’s Law as well, it just doesn’t come up in conversation as they patronize local business establishments.

If the legislator who is married with a family and goes go Church - but votes in favor of sodomy-promoting laws - comes in to buy a cake, there’s no denying the legislator his cake.

But without that legislator’s vote, we would not have legalized, institutionalized sodomy - it would still be illegal as it was prior to the 1960s.

Those sodomites who bought the cake are just two more heathens / pagans in a long parade. Just keep your head down, sell cakes - and don’t forget to keep spreading the gospel and building your local Church - based on SOUND Biblical teaching. You’ve got to demonstrate your own success, then when people ask you questions, ask THEM questions. Talk about SIN. Tell them all about sin and the wrath of God. Tell them we ALL fall short of the glory of God - every man is born into sin. This is easy for people to relate to - even children lie, contrary to the new world order / pop psychology idea that children are perfect. Relate it to real world examples of seemingly “good” people whose actions and words are contrary to God’s Law Word, the Bible. At some point, over the weeks and months, the person you’re talking to may come to see their own sin.

One must become convicted of one’s own sin in order to see ANY need to lay hold of Christ’s atoning sacrifice.

Chances are, even the sodomites would agree that we live in a sinful world.

The only thing they need to do is become convicted of their own sin.

Only then might they consider: are they going to continue to serve and be obedient to their current master, the father of lies, or are they going to die to all that sin, and be born again, and the new man serve and be obedient to Jesus Christ.


26 posted on 02/27/2014 7:37:12 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Until the left strangle hold on the media is broken they won’t. The uniformed masses are spoon fed lies everyday between episodes of American Idle (spelling correct for content) and whatever other crap they watch.


27 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:17 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I do not think that it will ever happen. The FCC wants to force the press to be even more communist than they already are. Truth is being stamped out daily. I am starting to think that “most” Americans are so stupid that they are forever lost and with them our Republic. The communists were right about taking over the schools and destroying societal norms... and their plan is almost in place. Public education is now indoctrination and all that is evil is sold as good.


28 posted on 02/27/2014 8:31:12 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Kaslin
So, if you are the baker, and the gay couple chooses you to bake a cake, bake it and donate the money to your church.

I like that. The baker should tell the "couple" that all proceeds from this transaction will be donated to a Christian church in your name.

29 posted on 02/27/2014 10:17:31 AM PST by alnick
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To: Kaslin

Amazingly passing a “clean” debt ceiling increase doesn’t count as stupid?

Sitting by and doing nothing as the tyrant in chief uses the IRS, advises state AG’s not to defend state law, tells governors to shut up and sit down....

nothing the RINO’s do and don’t do is considered “stupid”??


30 posted on 02/27/2014 11:20:29 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: KC_Lion

bump


31 posted on 02/27/2014 11:20:47 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Kaslin

Brewer vetoed the Arizona bill and is STILL be lambasted by the progressives.


32 posted on 02/27/2014 8:17:22 PM PST by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Kaslin
As CPAC approaches, it’s important to remember and take heed from the words of President Ronald Reagan, who said, “The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor.”

Damned RINO! :)

33 posted on 02/28/2014 4:23:17 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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