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6 Proposals Denying Service to Gays You Haven’t Heard About
TIME ^ | 02/27/2014 | By Katy Steinmetz

Posted on 02/27/2014 9:54:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer sent cheers rippling through a group of protesters gathered outside the state capitol on Wednesday evening when she vetoed a controversial bill that would have protected business owners who cited their religious views in denying service to gays. Ohio spiked a similar measure on Wednesday. Kansas lawmakers created the same kind of firestorm earlier this month when the House passed a bill allowing private and public employees to refuse to serve same-sex couples (the state Senate later killed that measure).

And this could still be just the beginning.

These two high-profile legislative debates are just part of a budding trend across the nation, with states pushing measures that proponents call religious freedom bills but opponents label state-sanctioned discrimination.

Here are six related proposals getting less attention than the battles in Kansas and Arizona.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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To: GraceG
Agreed. Here's some more constitutional and historical perspective on this.

The only exception to federal government not constitutionally allowed to interfere with a state's choices is the Fourteenth Amendment. It states, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

The badly and hastily written Post-Civil-War 14th Amendment was aimed at doing away with “Jim Crow laws,” state-forced segregation of former slaves - blacks. The original intent of the Amendment, passed during Post Civil-War Reconstruction, was to put former slaves on equal legal footing with the rest of American citizens. This original intent was confirmed by SCOTUS in the 1873 Slaughterhouse cases.

However, in the 20th Century, activist courts seeking to enlarge government power have sought to continually expand the original intent of the amendment. But there are no constitutional grounds for these later decisions to break the Slaughterhouse precedent. The correct thing to do is overturn these later decisions on the basis of the Constitution and the stare decisis of Slaughterhouse. Until then, I think nullification on constitutional grounds is in order.

Therefore, the feds may interfere only if a state law (not individual action) requires racial (not gender or sodomite) segregation (not integration). There NOTHING in the Constitution to allow the federal government to force integration or to interfere with an individual's freedom to discriminate or choose.

21 posted on 02/27/2014 11:00:51 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: stirrinthepuddin

I apologize for the ‘bracketing’ in my post!

Being new to the forum, I mistakenly used the common php way of quoting and highlighting.

I can find no way to edit after submitting?


22 posted on 02/27/2014 11:02:27 AM PST by stirrinthepuddin
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To: Graewoulf

BTW, if discrimination against a gay wedding because of religious convictions are not allowed, how do you explain this:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obama-inc-sues-trucking-company-for-firing-muslim-drivers-who-refused-to-deliver-alcohol/

Obama Inc. Sues Trucking Company for Firing Muslim Drivers Who Refused to Deliver Alcohol

Why is the Muslim’s religious convictions more worthy of protection by the Obama administration than the Christian’s?


23 posted on 02/27/2014 11:08:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ExTxMarine

“It means that there may well be a store with a sign that says, “Blacks not allowed.” And you know what, that is his right to limit his business and his customers to whomever he so chooses.”

You have as much, if not more, chance of re-instituting human slavery as ever having that happen.

You would be hard [ressed to find 50,000 people in the entire USA who would go along with that, and 10x than number who would burn such an entity to the ground.


24 posted on 02/27/2014 11:08:58 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: GraceG
History has been re-written...

Well, we must do what we can to counter that and trust the rest to the Lord who has been our guardian over the centuries.

25 posted on 02/27/2014 11:15:20 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: dsc

far from it


26 posted on 02/27/2014 11:51:45 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: DManA

“When you add the friends, relatives, and colleagues of the 2% you rapidly get into business threatening range.”

You don’t get all of those people. I’m not sure it should be business-threatening, particularly when you think of all the new business they will get from decent people.


27 posted on 02/27/2014 3:25:58 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: RedStateRocker
"You would be hard pressed to find 50,000 people in the entire USA who would go along with that, and 10x than number who would burn such an entity to the ground."

I agree, but THAT is what true freedom is all about. It is ugly, it might even be insane at times, but that is their right to be insane or ugly or biased or whatever.

The real problem is that people have been using the government to solve every petty little issue with which one group does or doesn't agree. And our schools are teaching our children that this is a correct and proper function of government - it is NOT!
28 posted on 02/28/2014 8:36:29 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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