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Drought be dammed, Calif. lawmakers look to storing water
The Sacramento Bee ^ | February 27, 2014 | Michael Doyle

Posted on 02/27/2014 5:24:26 PM PST by liege

The California drought is stoking a congressional appetite for additional water storage, with new and larger dams back on competing menus.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: dam; dams; klamath; klamathfalls; michaeldoyle
I remember when they built the Auburn Dam. Oh, wait...
1 posted on 02/27/2014 5:24:26 PM PST by liege
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To: liege

It all sounds good, but in ten years we’ll again be asking ourselves, “Where ARE those dams?”


2 posted on 02/27/2014 5:25:47 PM PST by liege (America 180)
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To: liege; Jeff Head

Jeff, how does the Klamath Falls “war” play in all this ?


3 posted on 02/27/2014 5:36:00 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: liege
List of California dams removed
4 posted on 02/27/2014 5:40:22 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: liege

What did the fish say when it hit concrete?………………… DAM !!!


5 posted on 02/27/2014 5:41:10 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: liege

“”I remember when they built the Auburn Dam. Oh, wait””

That hole in the ground? It’s still there, isn’t it? I have pictures I took in the ‘80’s or possibly the ‘90’s of the proposed or half built bridge across that expanse while on vacation. Haven’t been back since but I would imagine it still looks the same???


6 posted on 02/27/2014 5:42:35 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: liege
These idiots react WAYYYYY late in this idiotic state.

And in 30 more years if they start NOW, and the permanent Dem Legislature stays on it, then they will STILL be 30 years from ever building another dam in this state.

The greens and enviros in this state rule.

More lying lip service by our legislature. The y WILL no doubt find a way to build the train to nowhere though.

7 posted on 02/27/2014 5:48:04 PM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: liege

Rip Van Winkle has nothing on the state legislature that has been asleep at the wheel for far too long.


8 posted on 02/27/2014 5:52:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Wasn't the last dam built or enlarged in California , the one down near Hemet- like 20 years ago ??

And they dam-ed sure have torn out boatloads of small dams in the last ten years to satisfy the fish run enthusiasts.

9 posted on 02/27/2014 5:52:58 PM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: builder
According to the article this is coming from the congressional level, not the legislature.

The "green" roadblocks will be later. I think I remember that the Auburn dam was halted because it would affect the availability of free running white water for those who ran the rapids.

I suppose that is much more important than dehydrating to death.

10 posted on 02/27/2014 5:58:25 PM PST by liege (America 180)
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To: Thank You Rush
According to a Wiki article;

Although new proposals surfaced from time to time after the 1980s, the dam was never built for a variety of reasons. Limited flood-control capability, geologic instability, and potential harm on recreational and ecological values finally put an end to the Auburn Dam project. Many of the original groundworks and preliminary constructions at the Auburn Dam site still exist, and up to 2007, the North Fork American River still flowed through the diversion tunnel that had been constructed in preparation for the dam. Reclamation and Placer County Water Agency completed a pump station project that year which blocked the tunnel, returned the river to its original channel, and diverted water through another tunnel under Auburn to meet local needs. However, some groups continue to support construction of the dam, which they claim would provide important water regulation and flood protection.

11 posted on 02/27/2014 6:10:59 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: liege
The Lake Wohlford dam in San Diego County has been operating at half capacity for years because of state seismic regulations. The state could fund the repairs necessary to bring it to full capacity for a lot less than starting over somewhere up the road. The locals usually vote Republican, though, so that's not too likely.
12 posted on 02/27/2014 6:27:12 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: liege

Remember: BUILD IT. DAM IT!..........?


13 posted on 02/27/2014 7:10:39 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sivad

Yeah, the director of the Auburn Chamber of Commerce that initiated the distribution of that bumpersticker in 1977 just retired!!!


14 posted on 02/27/2014 8:59:35 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: Vince Ferrer; Randy Larsen; Amerigomag; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; budwiesest; Phil V.; ...
Why not list the Auburn Dam that was 2/3rds completed when the selfish corporate white water rafters stopped it even though they were given the ownership of the South Fork American unaffected by Auburn on the North and Middle Forks. Now nature has ripped out the coffer dam and us taxpayers have financed the destruction of the diversion tunnels at even further expense. (talk about "sunk cost!")

The greater Sacramento Area has destroyed it's own nuclear power and a great multi-purpose hydro-electric, flood control, storage/peak power and back-up for Folsom Reservoir to keep it full as the most popular State Recreational Area in CA!!! This has also left the highest bridge structure in CA high and dry on the Foresthill Road from I-80 to Foresthill.

There are few greater monuments to abject stupidity than these landmarks along with the twin cooling towers at Ranch Seco in southern Sacramento county!!!

15 posted on 02/27/2014 9:16:18 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Not to bitch about nuclear power, but did that plant have a dam around it sufficient to deal with the flood potential of the Central Valley? It is amazing what can happen.
16 posted on 02/27/2014 9:26:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I don't know because in those days all the rivers were as undamed as the Consumnes is today and with such short and steep watersheds that would get hit with "Pineapple Express" monsoons that melted the Sierra Cement (wet snow) it's easy to see the "inland sea" type floods that occurred in those days. I just don't know if all our current dams plus an Auburn Dam would have flooded a nuke plant near Elk Grove.

I've driven past the site and could look in and see the cooling pond/lake so I doubt there was any levees, dykes or dam that could have withstood the floods described in your link. But as I said above, those floods may not have been so drastic with those wonderful time machines call dams in the watershed like we have now.

17 posted on 02/27/2014 10:42:31 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Huh.......Looks like we have our own little Mother Lode caucas
here at FR.


18 posted on 02/28/2014 9:12:17 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: knarf

Thanks for that information... CA is going to continue to talk the problem to death without solving any of the ongoing consequences...


19 posted on 02/28/2014 5:21:52 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: SierraWasp

There are few greater monuments to abject stupidity than these landmarks along with the twin cooling towers at Ranch Seco in southern Sacramento county!!!
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How about the eight lane wide 380 freeway that goes from the SFO airport and then dead ends into a hillside? I just marvel at all of the bridges at the end of it - reminds me of the old Talking heads song - We’re on a Road to Nowhere

BTW - been working as a contractor laying out fire salvage logging above Forest Hill on the American fire for the USFS - very interesting...


20 posted on 02/28/2014 7:30:38 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: SierraWasp

It seems a great irony that the last politician to do anything significant to improve the state’s infrastructure, including water storage/delivery, was a Democrat.


21 posted on 03/01/2014 8:34:46 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Oh yeah? Who dat? (please escuse my ignernce)


22 posted on 03/01/2014 10:18:46 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: liege

As if this were some new thing no one ever heard of before.

Do you know how many natural lakes are in Texas?

2

All of the other lakes are man-made reservoirs.


23 posted on 03/01/2014 10:22:22 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: forester
Well, that sure reminds me of a song I'd like to dedicate to Gov. Moonbeam: "He's a real nowhere man, working on his nowhere plan for nobody!" As in the high speed rail to nowhere!!!

Thanks for the update Mr. Federal Contractor. What's so interesting about it? Is it the Sierra Flub still trying to stop salvage of singed timber??? Please stamp out my ignerance. (grin)

24 posted on 03/01/2014 10:24:22 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
What's so interesting about it?

I don't know - they are actually gonna cut some trees.... maybe...if they don't get sued

also, it burned hot enough that the quartz boulders exploded - which is pretty cool - as in getting side tracked looking for shiny yellow metal - it is gold country right?

25 posted on 03/03/2014 8:47:53 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester

Were they white quartz bolders? Maybe I better change my plans for tomorrow!!!


26 posted on 03/03/2014 9:26:13 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

yes - they contain quite a bit of iron pyrite - couple of the guys thought they had struck it rich


27 posted on 03/04/2014 6:11:59 AM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: GeronL
Do you know how many natural lakes are in Texas? ...2...All of the other lakes are man-made reservoirs.

Texas?

Do you have to dig a big hole to put them in? Where do y'all come up with the water?

28 posted on 03/04/2014 6:24:23 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They do dig for lakes, but I have no clue where the water comes from. lol.


29 posted on 03/04/2014 11:48:50 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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