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Georgia, Mississippi Follow Arizona by Blocking Bills Seen as Anti-Gay
Time.com ^ | 02/28/2014 | David Winograd

Posted on 02/28/2014 7:19:26 AM PST by GIdget2004

Less than 24 hours after Arizona’s governor vetoed a bill that had been criticized as anti-gay, similar legislation in Georgia and Mississippi are hitting new roadblocks.

Georgia state senator Josh McKoon conceded on Thursday that support for his religious-freedom bill is evaporating, 11Alive Atlanta reports. He told the Huffington Post that a committee vote on his legislation, previously scheduled for next Monday, has been taken off the calendar. McKoon said his bill merely protects religious rights of Georgia residents, but critics argued it would allow business owners to refuse services to gays based on religious beliefs.

In Mississippi, the state House of Representatives Civil Subcommittee stripped key provisions on Wednesday that had been attacked by the ACLU as discriminatory. The organization said the legislation would allow for even broader discrimination than the SB 1062 bill that was vetoed in Arizona, according to the Mississippi Business Journal.

(Excerpt) Read more at nation.time.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: bible; deviant; god; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; sodomandgomorrah; sodomy; vikingkitties; zot
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1 posted on 02/28/2014 7:19:26 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

People like Rod Dreher and others thought Social Conservatives could make a stand protecting religious liberty since the campaign over gay marriage is over. But from the events over the past two weeks this defensive line will hold up about as well as those defensive lines Hitler thought up as the Wehrmacht retreated on the Eastern Front in the face of the Red Army juggernaut.


2 posted on 02/28/2014 7:24:10 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

wow

that’s quite an extended metaphor!

that aside

The REAL reason homos are winning is cause of what they offer society:

1. The Religious Right screams and insults and threatens

while

2. The homos quietly point out they possess... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Guess which wins in the real world, hostility or profit?


3 posted on 02/28/2014 7:35:05 AM PST by warchild9
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To: C19fan; NFHale; BillyBoy; gusty; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; GOPJ; Liz; SeekAndFind
RE :”People like Rod Dreher and others thought Social Conservatives could make a stand protecting religious liberty since the campaign over gay marriage is over. But from the events over the past two weeks this defensive line will hold up about as well as those defensive lines Hitler thought up as the Wehrmacht retreated on the Eastern Front in the face of the Red Army juggernaut.”

These type of efforts have to be taken way more strategically than this to avoid these embarrassing routs.

The Left had too easy of a job claiming these laws are the same as a business refusing to serve an inter-racial couple over religious objections.

Quite embarrassing and counter-productive to result to have these retreats.

4 posted on 02/28/2014 7:36:05 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: GIdget2004

There are two types of gays. Those whose core and the entirety of their being is their sexual orientation - you can’t talk to them for five minutes without their bringing up the fact that thay’re fudge packers, and then there are those who are like anyone else except they happen to be gay. I have no problem getting along with the latter, but the former irritate and bore the living daylights out of me.


5 posted on 02/28/2014 7:43:13 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: GIdget2004

‘Just a step in forcing Catholic churches to marry sodomites. From “leave us alone” to “we WILL force ourselves down your throats, too.”


6 posted on 02/28/2014 7:43:31 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: GIdget2004

I guarantee that Mississippi won’t cower to nonsense. Georgia on the other hand not so sure. I expect Mississippi to pass this and be happy to do so.


7 posted on 02/28/2014 7:44:49 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: warchild9

“The Religious Right screams and insults and threatens”

Seriously? Who are we threatening? Name any popular spokesperson on the “religious right” who’s screaming. As for insults, that’s in the eye of the beholder. No doubt some people think it’s in insult to call homosexuality deviant behavior. I could just as easily claim it’s insulting to say sodomy is morally equal to heterosexual relations.

In other words, you’re full of it.


8 posted on 02/28/2014 7:45:57 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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9 posted on 02/28/2014 7:47:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: CitizenUSA

You’re screaming and insulting homos (and me) NOW

You’re losing the war badly because flinging poop is all you can offer

while homos are the most affluent demographic group in the country

money vrs flung poop

which attracts support?


10 posted on 02/28/2014 7:48:57 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

Bingo. Why we are losing and WILL lose this battle. I don’t think many realize we are a small minority and America just doesn’t think like us anymore. Because of the press and Internet we seem like a larger group than we actually are. I’m not at all advocating caving on what we believe (a/k/a RINOs). But we are perceived, and not without good reason, as a bunch of cranky old lunatics. And we cranky old lunatics are a quickly vanishing breed. It’s why I harp that we need a leader and not a rabble rouser which is why I am no Ted Cruz fan. Would I vote for him? Of course. Buy my shrinking demographic will never get him nominated much less elected. We need to be smart in our anger. But I haven’t seen an inch of progress onthat in years. It’s why the RINOs run the show. They aren’t so smart, but they aren’t perceived as screamers.

Wanna win elections? You MUST have the numbers. Unfortunately. We don’t, and screaming is not the way to get them. Sure people hate O’Dimwit. But these are different times. That does not mean they vote for us.


11 posted on 02/28/2014 7:53:02 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: napscoordinator

“I guarantee that Mississippi won’t cower to nonsense.”

Maybe not, but they’ve already stripped a lot of the bill out.

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20140228/NEWS010504/302280031/House-eyes-alterations-to-religious-freedom-bill?nclick_check=1


12 posted on 02/28/2014 7:55:07 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: RIghtwardHo

The Religious Right is popularly perceived as a bunch of deluded white geriatrics hollering at clouds. And that’s what FR projects, as well...even tho we all know there are reasonable Freepers who lurk quietly (or else they’ll get ranted at).

There’s no avoiding this perception. Look at how the Tea Party is portrayed in the hostile media.

Then look ay how homos are portrayed to the peasantry: jolly, attractive...and rich. (That last is correct, by the way.)

The social war’s over.

PS: Raphael Cruz is just the flavor the month. He’ll pass if a real leader appears.


13 posted on 02/28/2014 8:00:18 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

So challenging your hyperbole about the “religious right” equates to screaming and insulting? Sorry, but I don’t think you understand the meaning of those words. Pray tell, how did my post insult both you and homosexuals?

BTW, when I say you’re full of it, it’s the same thing as saying you’re writing nonsense and/or exaggerating. I don’t disagree that homosexuals have money to spend. I’m taking issue with your characterization of the so-called religious right.


14 posted on 02/28/2014 8:02:29 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Keep ranting (I’m not reading any of it, anyway)

The Religious Right just lost Kentucky


15 posted on 02/28/2014 8:03:44 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9
The social war’s over.

If it is it's via government coercion by the courts. The people have not changed their minds and the laws they have passed are being struck down by a tyrannical government. Are people angry? Of course they are. Rightly so.

16 posted on 02/28/2014 8:06:42 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’ve foudn that most people don’t give a damn about homos.

They’re worried about their bills, their rising taxes, and the way their kids’ education sucks.

Also
the issue of Constitutional reciprocity was settled by the Civil War.


17 posted on 02/28/2014 8:09:37 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

foudn = found

typing on a Note


18 posted on 02/28/2014 8:10:15 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9
The social war’s over.

It's far from over. The left asks for an inch and takes a mile every time. Their policies hurt society, and we are seeing that in action.

Caving in to them isn't going to help anything.

19 posted on 02/28/2014 8:11:57 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: warchild9
I’ve foudn that most people don’t give a damn about homos.

Is that why so many states voted aainst homosexual marriage?

I listen to my 22 yr old grandson and his friends and "You're so gay!" is an insult. The recipient gets angry too. They care.

20 posted on 02/28/2014 8:12:20 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cementjungle

It’s not caving.

With a diminishing resource base, trying to fight the left on every front is a losing strategy.

Concentrating political capital on carefully-chosen, individual contests is how to win in the long run.


21 posted on 02/28/2014 8:13:58 AM PST by warchild9
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To: DJ MacWoW

Those are children.

Adults are concerned about money, not homos.

And sports. Let’s not forget sports.


22 posted on 02/28/2014 8:15:00 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

He has a wife, a son and another on the way and works 2 jobs. He’s hardly a child.


23 posted on 02/28/2014 8:16:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: RIghtwardHo; warchild9

Who, exactly, is screaming? You and warchild9 keep flinging the accusations, but back them up with names. Is Ted Cruz a screamer? Am I? Warchild9 seems to think so, and all I did is challenge him on his characterization of the religious right.

I’d also love to know how you propose to fight smarter against the left. I’m just guessing here, but I suspect it goes something along the lines of giving up on social issues. Maybe not, but please describe your alternative approach. Enlighten us screamers...


24 posted on 02/28/2014 8:17:13 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Please, I already said I’m not reading your posts

go find a cloud to rant at


25 posted on 02/28/2014 8:18:23 AM PST by warchild9
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To: DJ MacWoW

Calling someone a “Homo” is soooo seventh-grade, and hardly proof of sophisticated political sensitivities.


26 posted on 02/28/2014 8:19:23 AM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

“And that’s what FR projects, as well...even tho we all know there are reasonable Freepers who lurk quietly (or else they’ll get ranted at).”

Wow! Just wow! Your implication is that many FReepers who post (what FR “projects”) are unreasonable. I bet you consider yourself one of the reasonable FReepers.

BTW, challenging someone’s posted opinions isn’t ranting. It’s called discussion, as in a discussion board.


27 posted on 02/28/2014 8:21:45 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: warchild9

On the contrary, these are the young adults that are affected by policy and their opinions matter. These are the ones being touted as being all for “gay rights” and they believe being labeled “gay” is insulting. It is very pertinent and reveals the propaganda for the lie it is.


28 posted on 02/28/2014 8:23:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: GIdget2004
That saddest thing is reaction among most of even the conservative evangelical Christian community seems to be little more than a shrug and a yawn. Christians in America have become like the 600lb Gorillia who has been convinced by the its really only a 10lb spider monkey and so instead of clobbering the opposition like they could if flexed their collective social and political muscle, the just scurry away and hide.
29 posted on 02/28/2014 8:23:48 AM PST by apillar
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To: CitizenUSA

whatever


30 posted on 02/28/2014 8:24:13 AM PST by warchild9
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To: DJ MacWoW
I listen to my 22 yr old grandson and his friends and "You're so gay!" is an insult. The recipient gets angry too. They care.

I know several people who appear to be as gay-friendly as anyone around. They have gay friends, they support all the pro-gay stuff going on. But.. whenever they get angry at a gay person (or even at Obama) their true feelings emerge and I hear some pretty harsh commentary on their sexuality/personality.

I believe that deep down, the most ardent supporters of the "gay movement" still know that homosexuality is an abomination and disgusting.

31 posted on 02/28/2014 8:24:23 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: DJ MacWoW

I agree with you there.


32 posted on 02/28/2014 8:25:03 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Cementjungle

Absolutely agree.


33 posted on 02/28/2014 8:26:22 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Just like the social war against abortion is over, eh? You’re absolutely right DJ. The courts can illegally and immorally proclaim the social war is over, but all they end up doing is creating more strife. They may very well rule like black robed tyrants, but that doesn’t solve the core problems.

In regards to homosexuality, the strife is being caused because the left generally wants to force other people to do their bidding. A lot of the resistance to gay marriage would probably go away if our freedoms to associate with who we want, speak what we want, and believe what we want were held in high regard as both God-given and constitutionally protected rights.


34 posted on 02/28/2014 8:28:43 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: CitizenUSA
A lot of the resistance to gay marriage would probably go away

I agree with everything but that. People still get grossed out. Especially young men.

35 posted on 02/28/2014 8:32:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: warchild9

“Please, I already said I’m not reading your posts”

I’m posting for the benefit of those reasonable lurkers you mentioned if not for you. So you come to a discussion board, make a bunch of ridiculous assertions about how the religious right screams, insults, and threatens, then you refuse to defend your claims by further discussion. Let me characterize that for you. It’s like a small child with his fingers in his ears screaming, “I can’t hear you! I can’t hear you! Nanananannanan!”

LOL


36 posted on 02/28/2014 8:35:23 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Actually, a couple of my Freemail entourage think you’re pretty funny.

I shouldn’t toy with you. It isn’t fair. I’d hate to be responsible for you getting a thrombo.


37 posted on 02/28/2014 8:37:11 AM PST by warchild9
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To: GIdget2004
This won't stop. Eventually parents will be jailed if they object to old homos having sex with their kids. And then this -


38 posted on 02/28/2014 8:39:02 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Is Ted Cruz a screamer? Am I? Warchild9 seems to think so, and all I did is challenge him on his characterization of the religious right.

It use to be just a couple years ago anything remotely in acceptance of gay rights or gay marriage would flat out get you banned from Free Republic. That seems to have changed because as of late, the pro-sodomites seem to outnumber us even on here. I guess we're now just homophobic bigots and religous kooks who have the gall to believe that God's word doesn't change with whatever direction the poltical winds blow. Oh, well I can live with that, I'm too old to change now and will continue telling everybody that homosexuality and homosexual "so-called" marriage is a filthy degenerate sin, and I don't care who it offends. What's the worst they can do? Lock me up? Execute me? Good I'll die a Christian martyr....

39 posted on 02/28/2014 8:40:03 AM PST by apillar
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To: apillar

apillar: “That saddest thing is reaction among most of even the conservative evangelical Christian community seems to be little more than a shrug and a yawn.”

I think there are a least two reasons for that. #1 the media makes it seem like there are far more of them (leftists) than us. They certainly go out of their way to make the pro-homosexual position seem trendy and popular. #2 Christians see this as an inevitable sign of the times—something that we can’t change and probably wouldn’t want to change in the first place as it leads to Christ’s return.

#1 is simply an advertising campaign. As such, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s reality. It’s simply the reality they are trying to create, and it isn’t guaranteed to work.

#2 There’s also no guarantee that these are the end times predicted in prophecy. Christians throughout the ages have tended to think Christ’s return is imminent. For all any of us know, we may be on the edge of a great revival brought about as a result of the left’s overreach on things like abortion and homosexuality.


40 posted on 02/28/2014 8:46:56 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: GIdget2004

See there? Trying to protect religious freedom is now HATE.


41 posted on 02/28/2014 8:48:24 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: GIdget2004

Wonder if the critics of this bill will scream when moslem business owners refuse service to Christians—ie: taxi drivers who refuse people with seeing-eye dogs, people who have just purchased alcohol and people with bar-b-q take-out orders, just as an example.


42 posted on 02/28/2014 8:54:48 AM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: warchild9
I’ve foudn that most people don’t give a damn about homos. They’re worried about their bills, their rising taxes, and the way their kids’ education sucks.

The fiscal war was lost long before the social war.

Therefore, we should quit "whining" about limited government, accept the debt piling up along with paying the interest for that "feature", marvel at "cronyistic" governance that K-street blesses us with, and be glad for the egalitarian fiscal policies that "people worry about" more than bills, rising taxes, and their kid's education.
43 posted on 02/28/2014 8:59:33 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: CitizenUSA
#2 Christians see this as an inevitable sign of the times—something that we can’t change and probably wouldn’t want to change in the first place as it leads to Christ’s return.

I almost wish that was the reason, unfortunately from what I've seen, it seem the end times are the very last thing on most Christians mninds. Then enjoy their houses and cars and being part of the popular crowd and having lots of Facebook friends and being popular at work and it's easier to just shut up and just go along than try to fight what most have already deemed a lost battle and risk being labeled a bigot, or losing friends or making waves at work.

44 posted on 02/28/2014 9:00:12 AM PST by apillar
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To: warchild9

“I’d hate to be responsible for you getting a thrombo.”

Thank you for your concern for my health. I appreciate it.

It does appear you’re reading my posts, too. There goes another one of your claims...


45 posted on 02/28/2014 9:02:40 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: GIdget2004

Reprobate minds taking over.


46 posted on 02/28/2014 9:04:47 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You may be right about most resistance (to gay marriage) not going away if it stopped at just that. We’ll never know, because the gay rights movement won’t stop simply at homosexual marriage. This is the new civil rights battle for the left. If you want to see where it leads, look at how it worked last time. We’re talking hate crime laws, endless discrimination lawsuits, quotas, etc.


47 posted on 02/28/2014 9:07:25 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: GIdget2004
What's next? Hate speech laws will be the end demand. This isn't only about Sodimizers. It's about the deviancy that rots a nation from the top down. And it is like gangrene when it sets in. Compromise is always the first step in that terrible direction.
48 posted on 02/28/2014 9:12:56 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: CitizenUSA

We are on the same page.


49 posted on 02/28/2014 9:13:51 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: Mortrey

Private businesses should have the right to hire or fire whoever they want for whatever reason they want. They should also have the right to refuse business to anyone for any reason. The further we move back toward that simple standard, the better off we’ll be. Just look at the absolute mess created by the civil rights, aka grievance, industry. The constant meddling cannot stop so long as people look to government as some great fairness arbitrator.


50 posted on 02/28/2014 9:16:46 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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