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U.S. Spies Said No Invasion—Putin Disagreed (Obama admin epic fail)
The Daily Beast ^ | Friday, February 28, 2014 | Eli Lake

Posted on 02/28/2014 6:07:27 PM PST by kristinn

A day after U.S. intelligence said there would be no Russian invasion of Ukraine, Putin’s troops started coming over the border.

On Thursday night, the best assessment from the U.S. intelligence community—and for that matter most experts observing events in Ukraine—was that Vladimir Putin’s military would not invade Ukraine. Less than 24 hours later, however, there are reports from the ground of Russian troops pushing into the Ukrainian province of Crimea. It’s hardly a full-blown invasion. But it’s not quite the picture U.S. analysts were painting just a day before.

There was good reason to think Putin wouldn’t do it. Russia’s Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov told Secretary of State John Kerry that Russia respected the territorial integrity of the Ukraine. U.S. intelligence assessments concluded that the 150,000-man Russian military exercises announced by Putin on Wednesday were not preparations for an invasion of Ukraine because no medical units accompanied the troops. And Russian and U.S. diplomats were still working on Iran and Syrian diplomacy. All of this followed a successful Winter Olympic games for Putin’s Russia.

Yet private security contractors, working for the Russian military, seized control of two airports in Crimea on Friday. And Ukrainian border officials said that Russian cargo planes had landed inside the province, and that 10 military helicopters flew into Ukrainian airspace.

U.S. officials familiar with the intelligence on the fast moving situation in Ukraine tell The Daily Beast that analytic products from the intelligence community this week did not discount the prospect of Russian provocations and even light incursions in the Russian majority province of Crimea, the home of Russia’s fleet in the Black Sea.

Nonetheless, until Friday, no one anticipated a Russian invasion of Ukrainian territory."Nobody thought Putin was going to invade last night,” one Senate aide who works closely on the Ukraine crisis. “He has the G8 summit in Sochi coming up, no one really saw this kind of thing coming." This source also stressed that events are still moving quickly on the ground. “There is still a question about whether this is Russian troops coming across the border or Russian troops moving around the installations in Crimea.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; fail; obama; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 02/28/2014 6:07:27 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Our government is a sad joke. Unprepared (see Benghazi, et al). Whiners in a wimpy administration making a genius move in troop cutbacks. Revolution of some sort is needed.


2 posted on 02/28/2014 6:10:10 PM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: kristinn

Hey Obama get your head out of Reggie Love’s lap and start drafting another sternly worded letter!

Or better yet... go over there and bend over for Putin and just get it over with.


3 posted on 02/28/2014 6:10:19 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: kristinn
That's because U.S. Intelligence is targeting people domestically…
4 posted on 02/28/2014 6:10:43 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: kristinn
CYOA time...

aka It's never Obama's fault


5 posted on 02/28/2014 6:14:03 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: kristinn

If the EU really cared about bringing Ukraine in, would they go to war?


6 posted on 02/28/2014 6:15:00 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: kristinn
Kerry is a hero of the Vietnamese communist revolution, and he is the SOS

It's what happens when imbeciles are enfranchised.

The fall of the American Republic occurred in 1865.

The fall of the "democracy" instituted over the last 100 years will soon follow.

7 posted on 02/28/2014 6:15:59 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: kristinn

Putin is blowing off the G8 Summit, he does not need them any longer. The mostly European Union Countries need Russia’s gas in the winters. Can’t afford to cross Vlad.


8 posted on 02/28/2014 6:16:05 PM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: kristinn

Other predictions have been more prescient:

“After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next,” Palin told Foreign Policy in 2008.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/28/did-sarah-palin-predict-russia-invading-ukraine-if-obama-got-elected/


9 posted on 02/28/2014 6:16:15 PM PST by jiggyboy
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To: kristinn

It’s not a fail. It’s what was expected by these liars upstairs.


10 posted on 02/28/2014 6:16:33 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: shankbear
Nonetheless, until Friday, no one anticipated a Russian invasion of Ukrainian territory."Nobody thought Putin was going to invade last night,” one Senate aide who works closely on the Ukraine crisis. “He has the G8 summit in Sochi coming up, no one really saw this kind of thing coming."

The Washingtonians are an existential threat to the USA.

11 posted on 02/28/2014 6:18:39 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: kristinn
Obama admin epic fail

No surprise here. "Obama admin" and "epic fail" are synonyms. We know that. Putin knows that. Everybody (except the mainstream media) knows that.

12 posted on 02/28/2014 6:20:14 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Nachum

Ping


13 posted on 02/28/2014 6:20:40 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: kristinn

more than ten choppers :

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=287_1393605865


14 posted on 02/28/2014 6:21:42 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: kristinn

Our enemies have, at least, a three year window to completely take advantage of US interests. To not do so, would be utterly foolish.


15 posted on 02/28/2014 6:22:07 PM PST by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: darkwing104

Obama gets no blame for anything bad that happens...
and all the credit for everything bad that doesn’t.


16 posted on 02/28/2014 6:22:45 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: kristinn

The minute Kerry put his warning over the wires this was assured. Hagels announcement that we want to neuter the Army was fuel on the Ukrainian fire
Russia is now a superpower again courtesy of Barack the Stupid.


17 posted on 02/28/2014 6:24:51 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: kristinn

Pimp slapped again. Anyone remember the Pristina International Airport. Where the Russians showed up
before the ailed forces. Oh yea they are moving in
and Obama better watch his 6 because the Russians are
in Cuba. This may turn into a double or even a triple
slap down for him and F’in Kerry.


18 posted on 02/28/2014 6:25:40 PM PST by Slambat
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To: kristinn

Even a child would know that Putin won’t give up Ukrainian gas and oil control - it supplies half of Europe!

CIA didn’t know? LOL, Putin probably CLEARED it with all the major powers to avoid any misunderstandings!


19 posted on 02/28/2014 6:28:21 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: kristinn

Even Stevie Wonder could see the Russians were going to invade the Ukraine.

They moved to protect their port at Sevastopol, and the military and civilian airports they secured are for a future pincer move to the north to link up with an invasion of ground forces to the west into Eastern Ukraine. This is a region of mostly ethnic Russians, so this will be like Austria 1938 all over again.

Russia is moving to take back Crimea.It can easily be defended, it is strategic, and the Ukraine is not going to move into the peninsula to take it back—it has geographic pinch points which will be hard to traverse.

“US intelligence” is a joke, like President Obama is a joke.

Obama goes on TV to announce about the situation, and then devolved into a joke about 5:30 pm being Democrat happy hour.

What an a-hole.


20 posted on 02/28/2014 6:28:51 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82
Alternative headline...

Sarah Palin More Intelligent Than 0bama's Intelligence!

21 posted on 02/28/2014 6:32:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

“Putin’s aim is to show that he is in the catbird seat, and there is nothing we can do about it,” this former officer said. “He’s like a kid with a can of gasoline and a book of matches, and he laughs as Obama tries to deliver lectures on how fire is dangerous. Indeed, Putin throws banana peels on the ground, and Obama manages to slip on every one of them. I’ve never seen anything like it.”


22 posted on 02/28/2014 6:33:19 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: kristinn

How about that RESET Hillary Clinton and Obama celebrated!!!
/s
The world is loving the U.S. more now that Obama is in charge./s

At least with the military slashed to WW2 levels we can’t waste our soldiers lives on another war we’re not fully committed to win.


23 posted on 02/28/2014 6:33:58 PM PST by RginTN
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To: kristinn

“”Nobody thought Putin was going to invade last night,” one Senate aide who works closely on the Ukraine crisis. “He has the G8 summit in Sochi coming up, no one really saw this kind of thing coming.”

Maybe Putin didn’t want to spend lots of money on the G8 thing, which is useless anyway.
Last year the G8 summit in Ireland cost $100 million.


24 posted on 02/28/2014 6:35:36 PM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: exit82
Obama goes on TV to announce about the situation, and then devolved into a joke about 5:30 pm being Democrat happy hour.

"Appalling" is not a strong enough word.

America can ill-afford a President who isn't taken seriously on a strategic international level. And, after this performance, Obama made Jimmeh Cahtuh look like Theodore Roosevelt...

25 posted on 02/28/2014 6:35:58 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: OneWingedShark

Or perhaps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKM8T94GC2c


26 posted on 02/28/2014 6:36:51 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Rome2000

1865? By freeing the slaves? What are you talking about?


27 posted on 02/28/2014 6:39:06 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: OneWingedShark

At the risk of being put on the Watch list, let me say that if the history of US Intelligence accuracy is any indication, we’re safe.


28 posted on 02/28/2014 6:39:28 PM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: kristinn

barry got his data from a amatuer YOUTUBE VIDEO!


29 posted on 02/28/2014 6:41:52 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (how many times has obie fundamentaly transformed obamacare now?)
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To: griswold3

Lol / Ouch.


30 posted on 02/28/2014 6:43:41 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
"he (Putin) laughs as Obama tries to deliver lectures on how fire is dangerous."

I rather think that Putin is taking Obama for a fool.


31 posted on 02/28/2014 6:46:38 PM PST by Marguerite ( When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: kristinn; a fool in paradise

It’s ridiculously simple: there is no power balance in the world today!

The too-clever-by-half infant in the White Hut is just above such old fashioned ideas.


32 posted on 02/28/2014 6:46:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: okie01

And, as Hannity showed this afternoon, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and the Ukraine all falling ... just like Palin predicted in 2008.


33 posted on 02/28/2014 6:47:23 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Revolting cat!

We’ve got a Rodney King POTUS, folks, pleading to the evil in the world: Why can’t we just get along?


34 posted on 02/28/2014 6:49:00 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: kristinn

Geeze Louise ..NSA gets every bit of data in the world and they missed this ?


35 posted on 02/28/2014 6:49:20 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama ----> Fredo smart)
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To: kristinn
From article: until Friday, no one anticipated a Russian invasion of Ukrainian territory

I said Wednesday morning about 9 a.m. on one of your threads kristinn if an entry was made it would be from the south. It was a natural thought process and an assessment of the lay of the field. I'm not an intelligence operator though. It was easy to see putin would move in from the south and it would be soon if putin decided to go.

36 posted on 02/28/2014 6:51:31 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: fabian

Nothing to do with negro slaves.

Lincoln murdered the sons of the FOUNDERS of the Republic and birthed the federal apparatus that enslaves the working man this very day.


37 posted on 02/28/2014 6:55:40 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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38 posted on 02/28/2014 6:59:53 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: stylin19a
NSA misses the obvious because they collect every bit of data in the world. Stand next to a jet engine, and think you can hear a dog howling?
39 posted on 02/28/2014 7:02:29 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Half-brother is Watching You!)
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To: kristinn

Idiots.


40 posted on 02/28/2014 7:14:39 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: OneWingedShark

“That’s because U.S. Intelligence is targeting people domestically…”

Here’s an interesting thought experiment - question, what is a more likely military scenario that the U.S. government and its armed forces will face within the next ten years: a. a full scale conventional and/or nuclear war with another world superpower (Russia, or a future China), or b. widespread “civil unrest” within the continental United States?

You gotta give credit where credit is due - the wargamers at the the Pentagon, the public policy nutjobs in the beltway, and the paranoid radical progressives in the legislative and executive branches are indeed making preparations to wage war on their most likely future enemies.

Totally unrelated, how many billions of rounds of ammo and thousands of MRAPs has the DHS bought recently?


41 posted on 02/28/2014 7:31:35 PM PST by jameslalor
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To: kristinn
We may pay a heavy price in the next 2+ years for all the incompetents, cronies, queers, muslims, Marxists, Communists, & just plain fools that Obama has appointed to a multitude of foreign relations positions & areas of national security.

If Putin succeeds in annexing Crimea it will encourage others to do the same, yet I see no one in the Obama administration, including Obama, capable of intimidating Putin.

42 posted on 02/28/2014 7:41:14 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: kristinn; All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNxEDomUlXw


43 posted on 02/28/2014 7:56:03 PM PST by PGalt
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To: lump in the melting pot
I'm not sure the NSA missed ANYTHING.

Which is more likely?

Our huge intelligence apparatus was not closely monitoring a volatile world situation

OR

our incompetent, self-absorbed, can't spell foreign policy Campaigner-in-Chief was fully informed yet didn't know how to respond.

44 posted on 02/28/2014 8:02:41 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I pray to God that we survive long enough to elect a real president in 2016 who will have the ability and the will to strike back and take the fight to the red menace and their Islamic allies.


45 posted on 02/28/2014 8:03:49 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot
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To: Rome2000

We still have the democratic process to change D.C. There is only one way to change Moscow and that is with swift and destructive force. World War III is shaping up with America, the EU, and the free peoples of Earth against the expansionist tyrants in Russia and their puppet states of the old Soviet Bloc, China, and the Islamics.


46 posted on 02/28/2014 8:18:48 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot
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To: kristinn

US is too busy spying on Americans because that is the only thing that matters.


47 posted on 02/28/2014 8:32:43 PM PST by moviefan8
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To: Slambat
Oh yea they are moving in and Obama better watch his 6 because the Russians are in Cuba.

And in the US, by the tens of thousands. Open borders are marvelous. Witnessed two Russian speaking gentlemen get off a bus in downtown Houston just last weekend. Started taking pictures of downtown buildings right away. The US is a siting duck. Quack. Quack.

48 posted on 02/28/2014 8:41:00 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Rome2000

You don’t know your history as well as you think. I have read actual writings and debates that Lincoln had and he craftily did what was right to end slavery. Slavery was a deep evil that was being spread to the new territories. Maybe there was a better way to end it, but he knew that it was eating away at our new nation.


49 posted on 02/28/2014 9:46:47 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Revolting cat!

Caused by a youtube video, no doubt!


50 posted on 03/01/2014 12:11:52 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The Texas judge's decision was to pave the way for same sex divorce for two Massachusetts women.)
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