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When May I Shoot a Student?
New York Slimes ^ | 2/28/2014 | GREG HAMPIKIAN

Posted on 02/28/2014 6:43:56 PM PST by Domandred

BOISE, Idaho — TO the chief counsel of the Idaho State Legislature:

In light of the bill permitting guns on our state’s college and university campuses, which is likely to be approved by the state House of Representatives in the coming days, I have a matter of practical concern that I hope you can help with: When may I shoot a student?

I am a biology professor, not a lawyer, and I had never considered bringing a gun to work until now. But since many of my students are likely to be armed, I thought it would be a good idea to even the playing field.

I have had encounters with disgruntled students over the years, some of whom seemed quite upset, but I always assumed that when they reached into their backpacks they were going for a pencil. Since I carry a pen to lecture, I did not feel outgunned; and because there are no working sharpeners in the lecture hall, the most they could get off is a single point. But now that we’ll all be packing heat, I would like legal instruction in the rules of classroom engagement.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: banglist; campuscarry; education; guncontrol; guns; idaho; secondamendment
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To: Yo-Yo

Email address for Prof Doucebag in post 12.


21 posted on 02/28/2014 7:03:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Domandred

When one opens fire in your building....


22 posted on 02/28/2014 7:03:34 PM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Domandred

You may shoot a student when they need shooting.

...same as with anyone else.

Alternatively, you could trying “hugging it out” with said student when he shows up at your school intent upon murdering you.


23 posted on 02/28/2014 7:05:26 PM PST by Redcloak (Was that the primary buffer panel?)
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To: Domandred

Bravo to Professor Greg Hampikian for being unafraid to reveal to the whole world that he’s a clueless mental midget.

The good professor has all of the cognitive and critical thinking skills of your average seven-year-old.

I would imagine that his mommy still packs his lunch every day before he heads off to school, perhaps even cutting the crusts off of the bread in his PBJ sandwiches so that he doesn’t have to face any big-boy challenges.


24 posted on 02/28/2014 7:09:57 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Domandred

To give you an idea of the kind of student this guy is dealing with, this is from the professor rating website:

” He wants all the students to be interested and exited about genetics...”

Exited about genetics?


25 posted on 02/28/2014 7:11:58 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Domandred

An armed society is a polite society. Or, an armed campus has a polite employee base.


26 posted on 02/28/2014 7:32:27 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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Nothing quite like brazen ignorance from the parish of academia.


27 posted on 02/28/2014 7:35:29 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Domandred

28 posted on 02/28/2014 7:38:52 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Domandred

When he’s trying to shoot or otherwise seriously injure you.

Next question?


29 posted on 02/28/2014 7:39:15 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Domandred

Give the prof a break. He obviously has been grazing on the blue turf.


30 posted on 02/28/2014 7:44:09 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Domandred

As a professor you like to think about things, right professor? A student could kill you with a pencil in about two seconds. It could be done without drawing much attention and leave no evidence that could be tied to the killer. Just do it and walk away. Think about that. :)


31 posted on 02/28/2014 8:08:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: cripplecreek

He needs to be fired because he’s quite clearly mentally unstable.


Before he is strangled by his rectum........


32 posted on 02/28/2014 8:13:23 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Domandred
When may I shoot a student?

When you're trying to prevent the student from committing a forcible felony, or grand theft, or when you are acting in lawful defense of yourself or others.

Things like that...

33 posted on 02/28/2014 8:31:02 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: Domandred
To Biology Professor Greg Happycamper: Your letter stated that you would never consider bringing a handgun to the campus until now, but also implied that you are completely clueless about guns and their proper use as well as the implications of the new law that has you "up in arms" so to speak. Since it is impossible that anyone with your level of ignorance about guns has acquired a concealed carry permit, please take comfort in the assurance that before you can get your conceal carry permit you will have to take a training class where you learn such important things as (1) which end of the gun the bullets come out of; (2) how to safely handle a gun; (3) the laws and rules about where you can and can't take your gun; and (4) when it is permissable to use deadly force (whether with a gun or with a pen).

Your letter is a desperate cry for help, and I hope that you get the help you need if for no other reason than that future biology students at Boise State should not be subjected to learning from such a woefully ignorant instructor.

34 posted on 02/28/2014 9:04:01 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Uh....does this “Biology Prof” support abortion and euthanasia?


35 posted on 02/28/2014 10:41:04 PM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: Domandred
When May I Shoot a Student? An open letter to the chief counsel of the Idaho State Legislature by GREG HAMPIKIAN (greghampikian@boisestate.edu), Professor, Department of Biological Sciences Joint appointment in Department of Criminal Justice Director of the Idaho Innocence Project.

Dear Mr. Hampikan, asking for legislative sanction to assault and murder students is, as you intend, absurd. But you appear blind to the absurdity of posing self-defense as equivalent to murder. Furthermore your construction serves only to illustrate your state of mind, not that of others. If you were armed we would reasonably conclude you have declared your intent to murder, even though your question is an absurdity. It's the intent that makes it a criminal act, and you implicitly and explicitly assert that possession and intent go hand in hand. Fortunately you only speak for yourself. Else we should expect that even the police go unarmed. And of course, futilely, expect criminals and disgruntled madmen and drunken frat boys to always go unarmed on principle.

On the other hand reasonable law-abiding free people who go armed in preparedness for self defense don't need to ask permission for self-defense from you or the legislature. What they would appreciate is for the legislature to provide a forceful reminder to state-sponsored bigots such as yourself. This government harassment of peaceful law-abiding citizens is not tolerable and there is no lawful authority or power you and your kind may exercise to pursue such harassment.

This value is shared freely with you.

36 posted on 03/01/2014 3:21:09 AM PST by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: Domandred
When May I Shoot a Student?

When he uses the excuse "my dog ate my homework"....?

37 posted on 03/01/2014 3:26:42 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Occam's razor was made by Gillette)
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To: Domandred

Only if you are a cop, who is probably only one of the short-list folks the perfesser thinks should have a gun. Cops can shoot anyone for anything and claim they felt they were in danger - they can even shoot perfessers.


38 posted on 03/01/2014 5:23:45 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ladyjane

He is a biology professor.


39 posted on 03/01/2014 6:48:22 AM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: Domandred

Dear Professor,

You will know the moment to return fire when you see it. Until then, get lots of range time in and become proficient at the martial art of shooting.


40 posted on 03/01/2014 6:57:10 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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