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When May I Shoot a Student?
New York Slimes ^ | 2/28/2014 | GREG HAMPIKIAN

Posted on 02/28/2014 6:43:56 PM PST by Domandred

BOISE, Idaho — TO the chief counsel of the Idaho State Legislature:

In light of the bill permitting guns on our state’s college and university campuses, which is likely to be approved by the state House of Representatives in the coming days, I have a matter of practical concern that I hope you can help with: When may I shoot a student?

I am a biology professor, not a lawyer, and I had never considered bringing a gun to work until now. But since many of my students are likely to be armed, I thought it would be a good idea to even the playing field.

I have had encounters with disgruntled students over the years, some of whom seemed quite upset, but I always assumed that when they reached into their backpacks they were going for a pencil. Since I carry a pen to lecture, I did not feel outgunned; and because there are no working sharpeners in the lecture hall, the most they could get off is a single point. But now that we’ll all be packing heat, I would like legal instruction in the rules of classroom engagement.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: banglist; campuscarry; education; guncontrol; guns; idaho; secondamendment
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This douchebag professor at Boise State University needs a lesson for sure.
1 posted on 02/28/2014 6:43:57 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Domandred

the douchebag prof doesn’t realize the world in which he currently walks around unarmed, is one where he’s already outgunned - in the classroom and everywhere else.


2 posted on 02/28/2014 6:46:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Domandred

Maybe he should go teach at Virginia Tech


3 posted on 02/28/2014 6:46:49 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: Domandred
Dear Professor Douchebag,

With or without concealed carry laws, your disgruntled student could always be reaching for a gun inside his backpack. What makes you think that giving that student mandatory safety training, a background check with fingerprints, then issuing him a concealed weapons permit would make him more likely to shoot you?

With such poor judgement, maybe you should rethink arming yourself. You sound like a danger to yourself and others.

4 posted on 02/28/2014 6:47:06 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Domandred

He doesn’t need to shoot. He should feel perfectly free to be a target, should the circumstance arise.


5 posted on 02/28/2014 6:47:15 PM PST by rey
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To: Domandred

Oh and for the record, concealed carry on college campus is currently technically legal in Idaho. It’s against school policy and you can/will be expelled for it if you are a student.

For non-students as far as law goes the most you can be charged with is trespassing after the school finds out about the firearm, asks you to leave, and you don’t.


6 posted on 02/28/2014 6:48:16 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Domandred

Yeah, because when Adam Lanza shot up a school he needed to make sure he had permission to bring the gun onto school property.

Oh, wait...


7 posted on 02/28/2014 6:48:22 PM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Domandred

Another idiot liberal who believes that laws prevent crime and that guns causes crime.


8 posted on 02/28/2014 6:48:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Domandred

Hey, Professor A-hole, to answer your question, if you see a student shooting at unarmed students that are screaming and trying to get away, it’s okay to shoot at that student. I feel comfortable giving that advice even though I am not a lawyer.

What an A-hole!


9 posted on 02/28/2014 6:48:42 PM PST by winner3000
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To: rey

ROFLMAO!!! Well put.


10 posted on 02/28/2014 6:48:57 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Domandred
some of whom seemed quite upset, but I always assumed

He's an idiot...We all known the meaning of assume and if he thinks a person with criminal intent would obey a law of no guns on campus he's a confirmed idiot.

11 posted on 02/28/2014 6:50:00 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Domandred

greghampikian@boisestate.edu


12 posted on 02/28/2014 6:51:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Domandred
I will shoot anyone who is a direct threat to my life or the lives of my loved ones. I may shoot to protect friends/neighbors even innocent strangers if I can do so without unduly risking my life.
13 posted on 02/28/2014 6:52:20 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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I’m not surprised this douchebag has so many students reaching for their pencils to stab him.


14 posted on 02/28/2014 6:53:08 PM PST by dangus
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To: Domandred

He needs to be fired because he’s quite clearly mentally unstable.


15 posted on 02/28/2014 6:54:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Exactly. But the article is not about a logic thought process. It’s about the OPTICS and NARRATIVE of the screed. Remember, the NY TIMES is in the pocket of Bloomberg and his MAYORS AGAINST GUNS group.


16 posted on 02/28/2014 6:55:49 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Domandred

This guy is an idiot. I couldn’t even finish the story it was so patronizingly stupid.

In answer to his question, he can shoot if someone is displaying the means and intention to kill or cause grave bodily harm to him or another. So if a student pulls out a gun and starts shooting up the class room, he can shoot that student. If a student comes into his office with a knife and starts threatening to slice his grades into the professor’s internal organs, then he can shoot. If a student gets angry because he failed a test and threatens the professor, then the professor cannot shoot unless the student displays the means to carry out the threat.

If he was half as smart as he pretends to be (being a professor and all), then he would already know this stuff.


17 posted on 02/28/2014 6:55:59 PM PST by lcms rev
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18 posted on 02/28/2014 7:02:01 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Domandred

Well you can shoot them whenever you want to but you will probably get into a lot of trouble if you do.


19 posted on 02/28/2014 7:02:07 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: lcms rev

This guys too stupid to be an idiot. He’s in a class of his own.


20 posted on 02/28/2014 7:03:23 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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