Skip to comments.Russian upper house approves use of force in Ukraine
Posted on 03/01/2014 7:10:27 AM PST by maggief
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It was settled - Ukraine kept the Crimea and gave up its nukes.
Gee, ya think.
Like being in Danzig in August 1939.
Wasn’t worth it....if they’d given up the Crimea, the rest would be in the EU and NATO by now.
The problem that we’re having is that Putin is a leader.
A dictator no good, but still a leader.
And we have a pot smoking, peace activist Community organizer in charge over here.
I don’t have any respect for Obama and I’m not leading a hostile foreign regime.
... maybe too late.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department is warning U.S. citizens to put off all nonessential travel to Ukraine, and particularly Crimea.
The Foreign Office has urged all UK citizens in Crimea to leave amid escalating violence.
It is also advising against all travel to the peninsula in the south of troubled Ukraine, with those remaining advised to “keep a low profile”.
Another Twitter Report:
“Russian naval vessels including “Moskva” reported headed towards Ukr naval vessels off Crimea coast”
The Foreign Minister is going to dramatically read Tennyson's The Charge of the Light Brigade to the Ambassador...
It's worse - imagine if Mexico had deliberately starved millions of Americans to death during its former reign over the US in order to crush American opposition.
That’s what the Ukraine has been doing to Crimea?
Yikes. You just don’t DO that to the Bear.
Now the Canadians have done the same:
“OTTAWA-The Department of Foreign Affairs is advising against travel to Ukraine’s Crimea region and says Canadians already there should consider leaving “while it is safe to do so.”
OK. Holodomor. The Ukrainians had a grudge, understandably.
Well it’s going to be messy. Russia going to reclaim Crimea now?
That foreign territory has been part of the USSR/Russia for the last 300+ years.
Very bad, and maybe about to get worse. Much worse.
Correcting Khrushchev’s mistake.
Think of the US and let’s say Panama. If our military and citizens were threatened by a revolution (or maybe a drug dealing dictator), what do you think the US would do?
I’m not backing Putin but I’m just saying...
Imagine Jimmy Carter giving Southern California to Mexico.
That’s why Khrushchev did with The Crimea, for all intents and purposes.
The Russians starved millions of Ukrainians to death. Khrushchev was the Butcher of Ukraine. After WWII, the Red Army slaughtered hundreds of thousands of civilians while putting down a Ukrainian insurrection led by Stepan Bandera. That's the background for Khrushchev's "gift" of the Crimea to Ukraine. It was a peace offering, a consolation prize. I have no idea how emotive this issue is to Ukrainians, but given that Russia has never offered reparations of any kind other than the territorial one, it may be more significant than anyone thinks, and significant enough that Ukrainians are willing to die (and kill Russian troops) in large numbers to keep. Ukrainians are descended from the Cossacks whom the Russians have repeatedly massacred in large numbers in order to keep Ukraine within the Russian empire. In a way, Ukrainians share a history with the Poles of repeated large-scale insurrections against Russia, but without successfully holding the Russians off long enough to regain their independence.
The only people Bandera and his crew hated more than Russians, were Poles. They were despicable characters, on par with the Ustashe in Croatia.
A revolution in the Philippines (an ex-colony of the US) toppled Ferdinand Marcos. We were turfed from our bases less than a decade later. We stood by.
Well this should be messy and interesting... but yeah, the rest of the world probably won’t care.
But Obama, sinking under the weight of Obamacare, needed a squirrel and he has one now.
They were stuck between a rock and a hard place. Both Poland and Russia wanted the Ukraine. The Poles divvied up Czechoslovakia with the Nazis. The Russians gave the Nazis a free hand to invade the West via the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and helped supply them in that effort. All the players in the war were despicable in some form or fashion. Bandera at least had the excuse that Ukraine was friendless and being attacked from all sides.
Ping post 94 what are your thoughts on these missiles
That's crap! The Nazis could care less what the Poles did, they knew their turn was coming...and the Cieszyn region was stolen from the Poles in 1920 by the Czechs, and since Czechoslovakia ceased to be a country in 1938, the Poles then moved in.....There was NO collaboration between the Poles and Nazis in this matter.
CNN: Dempsey, Clapper, Hagel, Brennan, etc. leaving West Wing.
Better off with Moe, Larry and Curly.
True, at least they are on the side of the US.
OH I like that cartoon LOL!
Yes leaving because Bambi has to watch sportscenter and can’t be bothered until after hoops.
Big difference least Reagan was da man this President he just a boy compare to women he marry and dated
Ronnie got Lana Turner back in da day
Obama got Michelle
Well FLA state basketball play today at 4pm est so maybe after the game that on regular tv CBS
What are Zero’s March Madness brackets?
Well the brackets are not set NOT YET
So not sure either
US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel spoke on Saturday with his Russian counterpart, Sergei Shoigu, a US official told Reuters, Asked about rumors some U.S. military units had been on alert over turmoil in the Crimean peninsula, the official said the U.S. focus was on diplomatic options.
BOSTON (AP) The governors of Massachusetts, Connecticut and Rhode Island are stepping up calls on President Barack Obama to scale back the proposed shrinking of the Army National Guard.
Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Connecticuts Dannel Malloy and Rhode Islands Lincoln Chafee joined 44 other governors who sent a joint letter to Obama expressing strong opposition to a plan to reduce the forces from 358,000 nationwide to 315,000.
Looks like Crimea is being annexed by Russia. And, for Ukraine, it is unlikely to end there.
11:14 AM - 1 Mar 2014
Deeply concerned that #Russia will expand its mil intervention in E. #Ukraine - Obama needs to impose “costs” now http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=e638967f-8355-4182-abce-bae26a1d2631
11:50 AM - 1 Mar 2014
It’s the weekend for heaven’s sake! Come Monday morning, the EU and the White Hut will initiate aggressive response action first thing in the morning.
To all those who “could care less” and support Obama’s inaction (without stating so explicitly): Next, the Baltics, and then Poland.
Oh yes, and to earn his Nobel Peace Prize, he reducing our military to before WW2 strength. Happy Days are here again!
Per CNN reporter in country she can see several Russian ships near the coast.
Press Conference: the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General will read a statement on Ukraine
Martin Nesirky, Spokesperson for the Secretary-General will speak on behalf of the Secretary-General, and will take a few questions in Press Briefing Room.
Ha ha with Russia having veto power in the UN Security Council no one cares what the UN says, cue up the Hans Blix from Team America LOL
Thank you for your work on this thread.
Swiss air force “please don’t invade during non-standard business hours” PING!
You are most welcome ... trying to staying on top of events as they happen.
Maggie does all the heavy lifting I just bloviate.
I asked the admin if he could move this to breaking seeing it’s the biggest story of 2014
(Russian news source)
Ukraine nationalist leader calls on ‘most wanted’ terrorist Umarov ‘to act against Russia’
Published time: March 01, 2014 18:12
Edited time: March 01, 2014 18:45
A leader of the Ukrainian radical group Pravy Sektor (Right Sector), Dmitry Yarosh, has called on Russias most wanted terrorist Doku Umarov to act against Russia in an address posted on Right Sectors page in VKontakte social network.
The statement points out that many Ukrainians with arms in the hands supported Chechen militants in their fight against Russians and it is time to support Ukraine now.
The message, signed leader of Right Sector Dmitry Yarosh then calls on Umarov to activate his fight and take a unique chance to win over Russia.
It was moved into Breaking News, but out again. ?